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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: happychappy

OK. I watched my recording.

For a change, watched all the commercials with care - I was seeing most of them for the first time! 😉


Watched the show also.


Point 1 - Both our leads are really high-quality "professional" actors - I am filled with "admiration"..

- They both give their emotional best, irrespective of any minor problems such as lack of story! 👏
- They both look fantastic while crying - such a rare quality 😃

that's exactly what I felt too their sincerity and emotions they depicted were amazing! even though they too mustn't have been able to relate to this tamasha. I mean isn't this crisis a very PG Wodehouse type of crisis? Yet these two again put in their best.

Point 2 - As far as I know the GMT's 19th century Saraswatichandra was a progressive character, working against superstition and such like.. (Remember Saras jumping into temple pond to save some child, and Kumud supporting him? )

But...The bacche-log who are story-writing now have no clue abt all that ancient claptrap, so now in the 21st century they have turned apna Saras into a regressive person who waits on God to save him from sticky situations like an illegal second marriage! Kumud invoked Kanha, Dugba called on Ambe-Ma and Saras stuck by good old Ganpati Bappa in keeping with the festive spirit! All divine angles were covered, unleashing high-powered winds of change, putting out not only the diyas in this episode, but also turning the whole premise of a character on its head... CeeVees know (and care) less about characters than we do. End of Story.

it was awful that Saras did nothing to stall the sagai! he had no plan in mind! he was just waiting for divine intervention to save him, and so was everyone.

But what was funny was everyone's reaction after Saras burned his hand, it was like he had done something brilliant and mind blowing! I don't know, happy, ab toh gussa bhi nahi aata. It's just pitiably ridiculous.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

@Happy ji,

Saras of the novel had progressive ideas and saras of this show too still does. But both never rose above the limits of the world around them. And bore the burden the society imposed on them.
I too found it stupid that he was resorting to 'burning' and running out of any other sane idea like taking Saraswati back to hospital for few days where she has Arti to serve her.
BTW, I found this link that takes a dig at SLb's SC. I wonder what they would write about current SC.
PS: Saras definitely is not thinking about the marriage so the 'illegality' doesnt arise for him.


Santhi, I sincerely hope they are not watching the present track, SLB atleast was trying to make a legendary love story, these writers are not even sure whether it's a love story, or a saas bahu show or a comedy or a detective story!

I guess The only way to define this show has to be Indian daily show, that's a definition in itself .

As for whether Saras is thinking about marriage or not is not the point. No one in the story is horrified by the very idea that a second marriage is being talked about.

The most disgusting thing is that no one, including Dukhba, VC, Gun, Saras and Kumud is standing up and saying that a second marriage is out of question and not a demand that can be agreed to.

Even now, Saras's argument that they love each other so he cannot marry any one is wrong.

He cannot marry because he is married. Full stop. It's as if the demand of SM is ok, it's wrong only because it's Saras and Kumud. For any other couple to enter into bigamy would've been fine.

That's what's wrong. wrong with this track, this stupid balidan, this whole ma ki khatir shadi.




Edited by Arshics - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: bangles

I have stopped watching SC a long time ago.
I do read your bytes Arshi which I find more interesting than the show itself.
Through your write-up I feel as if I watched the comedy circus today! 😊


It was comedy circus Bangles, and actually funny. The seriousness with which everyone was acting was downright hilarious
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiranpreethee

Arshiji today I watched the circus and as you said had a good laugh at theideas the cvs come up with. However I did not even enjoy kumud and Saras emotional scene. One phrase Tyaag ki Devi giving the lamp to DB and Tyaag ka Raja burning his hand. What a Tyaagi couple!


Kiranji, there is only one way to survive this show now. Give each individual the respect they deserve.

So to the actors, full marks, they are all trying their best to make the whole thing look like a real story.

To the writers, they are playing the fool, and I think we must make an effort and laugh, otherwise they'd be heartbroken.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DocWho

I thought this show's ending by the first week of September! Is it not?


Shrija, where've you been. We would've loved to hear your views on the shoddy disrespectful way the entire medical profession is being depicted.

The show now will drag on till mid October, because SM has to have her share of screen space and baby talk for a month atleast, to earn her pay packet.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Arshics


Santhi, I sincerely hope they are not watching the present track, SLB atleast was trying to make a legendary love story, these writers are not even sure whether it's a love story, or a saas bahu show or a comedy or a detective story!

I guess The only way to define this show has to be Indian daily show, that's a definition in itself .

As for whether Saras is thinking about marriage or not is not the point. No one in the story is horrified by the very idea that a second marriage is being talked about.

The most disgusting thing is that no one, including Dukhba, VC, Gun, Saras and Kumud is standing up and saying that a second marriage is out of question and not a demand that can be agreed to.

Even now, Saras's argument that they love each other so he cannot marry any one is wrong.

He cannot marry because he is married. Full stop. It's as if the demand of SM is ok, it's wrong only because it's Saras and Kumud. For any other couple to enter into bigamy would've been fine.

That's what's wrong. wrong with this track, this stupid balidan, this whole ma ki khatir shadi.





ARshi,

Remember I talked abt polygamy and saras having to stand up for his wife. In the next episode he atleast made an attempt. And he said his identity as kumud's husband is more important at that time than being his mother's son. That sealed the deal for me regarding the marriage.

He was unequivocal about their marriage. All this 'love' talk is coming now to convince dumb kumud.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Everyone is so scared to tell her anything. Even Saras is trying to tell but only 'mein yeh shadi nahin kar sakta'. He's not trying to say 'meri shadi ho chuki hai'. Strange bimari of SM - she seems to knows about sagai ring and all that, but seeing a ring already on his finger, she says 'you're already wearing one'. That's it. No further questions and no explanation from Saras, just woh woh..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

@Happy ji,

Saras of the novel had progressive ideas and saras of this show too still does. But both never rose above the limits of the world around them. And bore the burden the society imposed on them.
I too found it stupid that he was resorting to 'burning' and running out of any other sane idea like taking Saraswati back to hospital for few days where she has Arti to serve her.
BTW, I found this link that takes a dig at SLb's SC. I wonder what they would write about current SC.
PS: Saras definitely is not thinking about the marriage so the 'illegality' doesnt arise for him.


Santhi, this Saras is just plain dumb.

There is no question of rising above the limitations placed on him by society here - he is not able to tell his Ma he cannot get married again even though 21st century society gives him the perfect basis to say so!! Plus he as a rather well-educated man should have better ideas on how to deal with a mentally unstable person!

And how can his (in)action be in anyway progressive? He is just looking for Ganpati Bappa to come show him how to save himself!! While he himself does zilch. That's the Ultimate in Fatalism. Then he goes and burns himself!!!!!!

Saras Ban Gaya Hero...😡 na na Saras Ban Gaya Buddhu...😲

Edited by happychappy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@santhi

Remember I talked abt polygamy and saras having to stand up for his wife. In the next episode he atleast made an attempt. And he said his identity as kumud's husband is more important at that time than being his mother's son. That sealed the deal for me regarding the marriage.

He was unequivocal about their marriage. All this 'love' talk is coming now to convince dumb kumud.


You know this is the regressive soch of our cvs. When Kumud was married to pramaad, marriage came above love. She was ready to do the shradh to protect her marriage.

She gave a message loud and clear - I am married and that is the biggest relationship

Yet now, she is ready to hand him over to someone else, because for a man polygamy is an option. A good woman will and must allow her husband to take on other women, reason Jo bhi ho. A bad woman is one who will hold on to her man, and say just as I think of none except you, so you must too.

What sort ofa message is that? Why is a second marriage even an option? Why has he not stood up and categorically told this Arti female that I am married and so I am not getting married to you.

My big big problem is that it should not be about whether Arti is good or bad, or whether he and Kumud love each other or not.

Even if Arti is an angel and he and Kumud are on the brink of a divorce, a second marriage is wrong, and must be entered into only after the first one has been ended.

Why has Mr Mamas Boy Chandra Vyas not announced categorically to the nurse that she is paid to keep his mother calm and must do so, and marriage is not even on the table?

Why has the tyag sundari Vyas not stood up and said marriage is not a shirt, to be castaway because mummy dearest doesn't like it. It's an institution to be respected and within this institution, we live in a monogamous society.

Why hasn't useless dad Desai stood up and declared that no one can walk into my house and jeopardize my daughters life?

Why is this Dukhba who shows so much attitude to Guman when she tries to split Saras and Kumud just give dumb looks to SM, for the same?

Why has no one stood up and said enough, there's a sanctity to marriage and it cannot be violated for anyone, no matter how dear the person is.

This regressive thinking that a woman must step aside if the mom wants her son to remarry is cheap insulting and extremely denigrating to women.

Imagine the reverse scenario, had VC gone mad and hated Saras and insisted that she marry his doctor, would cvs have dared to show Saras handing over Kumud, bapu ki khatir?

We would have lynched them for thinking his wife could remarry when he was around.

Hell, pramaad was a monster, yet the cvs treaded so lightly with the whole remarriage thing. Pramaad had to step aside and let her go, she was still shown to preserve her marriage as long as she could.

We have horrible double standards, we still believe that a woman must be subservient to her mom in law and her husband, that while her contemplating being with another man while married is a sin, but the reverse is not true.

All good women must not cling to their men and must allow multiple women into their husbands lives if he or his mom so desire.

Saras is a good man for saying he loves her? Because if he didn't he shouldn't have a problem with another marriage? What sort of poor social message is that. Saras cannot marry because he is married. Marriage and it's sanctity must come before love. For both men and women.

Sorry, bahut gussa aa gaya, but I have been trying hard to treat this track as a comedy, and trying not to give it any importance, but it's making my blood boil, the writers whole attitude to a man can take two wives, if his mommy so desires.

That's why I really admire gauti and Jen even more, to do this so convincingly, when I am sure at at heart they both must be feeling like idiots.
Edited by Arshics - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics

...
You know this is the regressive soch of our cvs. When Kumud was married to pramaad, marriage came above love. She was ready to do the shradh to protect her marriage.

She gave a message loud and clear - I am married and that is the biggest relationship

Yet now, she is ready to hand him over to someone else, because for a man polygamy is an option. A good woman will and must allow her husband to take on other women, reason Jo bhi ho. A bad woman is one who will hold on to her man, and say just as I think of none except you, so you must too.

...Why has Mr Mamas Boy Chandra Vyas not announced categorically to the nurse that she is paid to keep his mother calm and must do so, and marriage is not even on the table?

...This regressive thinking that a woman must step aside if the mom wants her son to remarry is cheap insulting and extremely denigrating to women.

...
Hell, pramaad was a monster, yet the cvs treaded so lightly with the whole remarriage thing. Pramaad had to step aside and let her go, she was still shown to preserve her marriage as long as she could.

We have horrible double standards, we still believe that a woman must be subservient to her mom in law and her husband, that while her contemplating being with another man while married is a sin, but the reverse is not true.

All good women must not cling to their men and must allow multiple women into their husbands lives if he or his mom so desire.

Saras is a good man for saying he loves her? Because if he didn't he shouldn't have a problem with another marriage? What sort of poor social message is that. Saras cannot marry because he is married. Marriage and it's sanctity must come before love. For both men and women.

Sorry, bahut gussa aa gaya, but I have been trying hard to treat this track as a comedy, and trying not to give it any importance, but it's making my blood boil, the writers whole attitude to a man can take two wives, if his mommy so desires.

That's why I really admire gauti and Jen even more, to do this so convincingly, when I am sure at at heart they both must be feeling like idiots.


You say it so much better, Arshi...😃
Edited by happychappy - 11 years ago

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