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Posted: 12 years ago
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Today Kumud gave a very long speech about relationships to Saras. She mentioned that Saras was right to remove his mother's name, because he could not keep the promise he made to her. But she took the wrong example. Sraswati, Sras' mother is the worst one, as she could not respect the mother-son relationship. What type of mother commits suicide in front of her child.
How can a mother expect a traumatised child to keep her word?
Kumud said that Saras does not know how to abide by relionships. Are relationships just the name given to them, I feel Saras has done more than enough to abide in his relationship,
He saved her father (what relationship was that?)
He took the blame of Yash on him ( What relaitionship was that?)
He freed Kumari from a marriage ( What relationship was that?)
At the end of the day, everybody thinks only for themselves, Kumud forgot all these and onl remembered the one phone call. I will not even consider the first letter, as it does not count. Nobody can force someone to marry a girl no matter what the girl's dream was.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiranpreethee

Today Kumud gave a very long speech about relationships to Saras. She mentioned that Saras was right to remove his mother's name, because he could not keep the promise he made to her. But she took the wrong example. Sraswati, Sras' mother is the worst one, as she could not respect the mother-son relationship. What type of mother commits suicide in front of her child.

How can a mother expect a traumatised child to keep her word?
Kumud said that Saras does not know how to abide by relionships. Are relationships just the name given to them, I feel Saras has done more than enough to abide in his relationship,
He saved her father (what relationship was that?)
He took the blame of Yash on him ( What relaitionship was that?)
He freed Kumari from a marriage ( What relationship was that?)
At the end of the day, everybody thinks only for themselves, Kumud forgot all these and onl remembered the one phone call. I will not even consider the first letter, as it does not count. Nobody can force someone to marry a girl no matter what the girl's dream was.


I do agree on a count with you here. Kumud is behaving out of emotion and not by thinking her thoughts through. One must give it to her because she tried really hard to make Saras believe in life and love, she told him innumberable times over that phone call that she loves him and she would be with him through all this. He was the one who could not "nibhao" a relationship after so many countless promises to the girl.

I do think that Saraswati is a touchy topic for Saras. However, he is so traumatized by her picture of suicide to finding out her reasons for the same and a bruised childhood. He has had only one person love him and that is his mother, and that is all he remembers. If his father would have been there for him ,instead of being such a selfish husband, Saras would have grown up thinking a different way about his mom. I also feel that Saraswati was very very harsh in committing suicide in front of her child. Also, knowing that her father was in love with Gumaan, telling Saras to stick to his father was also super unthoughtful of her. She should have instead told Dugbaa to stick it with Saras and told Lakshminandan to feature nowhere in his life. She instead did the stupidest thing being weak and selfish at the same time by drowning in front of a child ( did she not think how this was going to be for her 8 year old?) and by making him promise to stick it out with a father who could never be one. Saras has only clutched on to this, and has had no one to tell him otherwise.

Kumud does not know the background story. All she knows is Saraswati was a great woman, and Lakshminandan married gumaan after her death. She has also only seen the good side to LN...and still does not know what exactly transpired that night. So she is bound to tell Saras somethong on those lines as she knows it will pinch him the most.

what he did for Kumud like saving her dad and Yash, was out of his humane nature and an innate responsibility towards his kaka's family. he was not in a relationship with her that time. It was more about kaka and mai and others, and somewhere Kumud.

But after being in a relationship with her, after promising countless times that he will not leave her and will always be there for her, in one phone call he ended everything, without even the decency once again to go to her face to face and tell her this. Hence Kumud's outrage and her thinking that Saras is incapable of nibhaoing any relationship is totally understandable. She is not in a place to try and think of why he did this. He did not explain when he had the chance. Now it is too late and too much for Kumud to be expected to simply understand.

As for her situation, she has caused this mess called Pramad. It was her deep anguish and pain which also subsequently turned into anger and pride that led her into this stupid hasty decision of marrying Pramad. It was silly and very unthoughful of the parents too. With a trauma liek this, she needed time and not a marriage. Her ego did not let her think through and her parent's fear of society did not let them. The mess is hers to bear but Saras is going to help her out of it, as prayashchit just like Kumud helped him out of his loneliness like a silent shadow. It's his turn now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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me too had all that in my mind dear...but like saras ...i too just let go of it...and let kumud speak and listen...coz right now Kumuds pain is much more then that of saras...she has ended up in a hell ...and all Saras wants is to help her cope up with it and make it as livable as possible...

..now thats called fullfilling responsibility of being in love which saras is doing ...whic he had faltered once in his weak moments of gloom

as for saraswati by no means i have much admiration for her but then i do pity her as a weakling ...and even her soul wont be at rest till saras lives happily
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Posted: 12 years ago
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agree with ur post! i would just say in one line..'mauke ki nazaakat aur waqt ka kehar kumud ki ore zyaada hai is waqt'..and yes all the qualities u mentioned are a part of saras's personality, he cannot stay away from helping someone in need, be it kumud or anyone else..as per rishta nibhaana is concerned he feels that he will give pain because he thinks himself incapable of keeping anyone happy, and yes u r rt, he cannot be blamed completely, as his traumatized childhood is the reason..shana has mentioned beautifully in one of her posts that he will help kumud to get out of her misery by making her strong to fight for her rights because he does not want her to meet the same fate as his mother, in a way by helping kumud he is helping his mother for whom he could not do anything then..maybe this will help him get out of that traumatized past and make peace with the present!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wow, very well said Kiranpreet ji! 😊

I also had to watch that scene struggling to get through it. I didn't understand Kumud's need to bring up Saraswati... it was an entirely different matter from her own.
I also don't even think Kumud knew WHY Saras was having his moment of weakness during that one phone call. I agree that calling off a marriage the day before in an Indian village is a big no no. But I still think, even after everything that's happened onwards that ominous call, if Kumud had heard Saras' story once, she perhaps wouldn't have even dared to bring Saraswati up. 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiranpreethee

Today Kumud gave a very long speech about relationships to Saras. She mentioned that Saras was right to remove his mother's name, because he could not keep the promise he made to her. But she took the wrong example. Sraswati, Sras' mother is the worst one, as she could not respect the mother-son relationship. What type of mother commits suicide in front of her child.

How can a mother expect a traumatised child to keep her word?
Kumud said that Saras does not know how to abide by relionships. Are relationships just the name given to them, I feel Saras has done more than enough to abide in his relationship,
He saved her father (what relationship was that?)
He took the blame of Yash on him ( What relaitionship was that?)
He freed Kumari from a marriage ( What relationship was that?)
At the end of the day, everybody thinks only for themselves, Kumud forgot all these and onl remembered the one phone call. I will not even consider the first letter, as it does not count. Nobody can force someone to marry a girl no matter what the girl's dream was.

Nice post!!
I think it was very apt that Kumud mentioned Saraswati because right now Kumud like Saraswati is behaving and feeling trapped in a loveless marriage, abused by a selfish husband, bound by old world thinking that she has to grin and bear it until death separates her from her husband, and too proudly weak to admit her entrapment!
She harps on relationships because relationships are strangling her neck as if held in a vice ... On one hand she does not want to shatter her parents happiness and on the other she does not want to admit to her in-laws that she cannot handle-n-reform Pramad.
Her outburst directed at Saras was her subconscious mind (remember Freud?) venting out the irony of her predicament. Saras reflects all that she could have had if she had not in her pride insisted on getting married to the first available person. She sees that Saras is free while she is trapped while living under the same roof. Saras is the only person who understands her predicament so she feels safe to vent her frustration on him.
Is it not an irony that a teacher in modern day India is unaware that addicts need a detoxification program?
Is it not an irony that a forward thinking political leader is unaware that addiction is a mental health problem and needs medical intervention?
The book was written before detoxification programs were common knowledge. On one hand the CVs are aware of Skype but on the other they are unaware of common medical advances!
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