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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


Thank you, now I am crying, this is exactly what I felt, uska kya gaya? Kisi aur ka kya gaya?

She is doomed to a life of misery, and he is proud of this indirect apology? It trivializes and belittles everything!

I thought I would be alone in this strong rage I am feeling today! Thought 10 times before posting this CB, but couldn't think anything else. Thank you again, hotdogg .


Aarshi, perhaps you misread my post... I derided his 'apology' outright- look at my accompanying quote.
But I applaud the execution- sorry Hgg , I defer and differ- Saras part- his dazed yearning to reach out to her- any which way- a desperate plea- was well brought out in his voice. And then mortification of that long wish! She was not there! As this attempt deserves. I liked this script. It brought out- ' you can't 'murder' and say 'sorry'. ( quote) and look at the effect: he starts to 'understand' the 'denial'. And that's when I would start 'understand' his 'cause'.
As for Kumud's Ego!!...aah friends, you know where I am standing there! ( and the forum)😆
Edited by smrth - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Arshi, i liked the episode! do not agree with ur post, saras had no other way to apologize, kumud had broken all means of communications with him, was not ready to listen to him, what else could he have done! on the other hand kumud's reaction is natural, why would she forgive him! i think the story is going well and also moving along with the movie i saw, even in the movie kumud never forgives saras, and saras gets busy by involving himself in helping BD out in his political affairs, which i guess they will focus on now..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Aarshi, perhaps you misread my post... I derided his 'apology' outright- look at my accompanying quote.
But I applaud the execution- sorry Hgg , I defer and differ- Saras part- his dazed yearning to reach out to her- any which way- a desperate plea- was well brought out in his voice. And then mortification of that long wish! She was not there! As this attempt deserves. I liked this script. It brought out- ' you can't 'murder' and say 'sorry'. ( quote) and look at the effect: he starts to 'understand' the 'denial'. And that's when I would start 'understand' his 'cause'.
As for Kumud's Ego!!...aah friends, you know where I am standing there! ( and the forum)😆

You are on dot with the quote smrth, you can't murder say sorry, and the guilt will never go away!

And I am not really faulting the cvs , it's not in the execution, it's about as I said using Kumud as a pawn, the execution was obviously good to invoke such anger .

Kumud's ego - it's all she has left - self respect, all else is lost, so to preserve that she is putting up a front
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hello Arshi,
The picture is more clearer today
I'm on your side, all said and done.. Tipping point is yet to be reached. Kumud has nowhere to go..she ought to feel betrayed from all directions.. Even God. Ultimately it is her responsibility, whatever the decision she has made for herself. Kumud has been pushed to the deepest pit, the only way is up as the saying.
Would she turn back to her parents? Not before she has invested all she could.
Would she take it out on her in lnlaws? They couldn't do anything for Pramad. What is the point now? She can leave it to the end when she herself has given up.

Saras it is still about him, his remorse for himself is very much on a larger scale. Kumud can't turn back the clock, he is making things more and more difficult for her by persisting on this apology..what difference will it make to Kumud's life?

Precap : more revealatory the real extent of pain he is giving her.

Each of BD's family members were revealation today.
BD- he is transferring his responsibility to another innocent soul, first his wife and now Kumud. No sympathy for him.
Sowbhagya - what is wrong with you? Why would you shield your son?
Alak- seems to be pursuing her own goals..everything else is secondary.

None of them showed any remorse to Kumud's situation.
Daamadji: his own agenda is to be 'someone'. I liked him today, atleast has the realisation of situation.

He seems to be pointing everyone to reality about Pramad and Kumud. I liked when he expressed whether Kumud will ever be able to live with him? We will hear more of it further on.

@Hgg, I wouldn't forgive Saras in a similar situation.





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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


Not just Saras, but her dad, her father in law, her husband , all the men
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...he maybe the lesser of all evils, but I cannot absolve him of all blame!

Aaj mujhe gussa hai, on all those who twisted her fate, and ruined her life!


Arshi, I have never read so much anger and anguish in your CB before... You didn't even have a title...Looked like you wd have liked to put in some skull bones and swearwords in the place of a title?! And your words, just stacato perfect drumbeats for Kumud's oppressors.

Re: above quotes, it appears she doesnt have any say anymore, but is a puppet in the hands of these four men! Having not watched this week, I don't know what to say, except it doesn't sound like Kumud anymore? She was always in charge of herself...in control of her destiny. Even if she is in hellhole now, I want her to rediscover herself and be strong again, not a puppet or a cheez! Jeevan saathi and reunion can wait, that's just so trivial compared to losing one's own self... :(

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandygill

Arshi, i liked the episode! do not agree with ur post, saras had no other way to apologize, kumud had broken all means of communications with him, was not ready to listen to him, what else could he have done! on the other hand kumud's reaction is natural, why would she forgive him! i think the story is going well and also moving along with the movie i saw, even in the movie kumud never forgives saras, and saras gets busy by involving himself in helping BD out in his political affairs, which i guess they will focus on now..


Story is going well, my anger is with the people, bd, pramaad , VC and Saras, and poor Kumud, she is the one who is suffering! I somehow felt that this is not a chota lovers quarrel, so give a sham apology - so let me look at Saras

Was he only wanting to apologise to Kumud, so manipulated the dharmadhikaris so that he could pass on his apology speech, even though it could jeopardize their political interests ?

Or did he see the apology as the right political move, and decided to wash his hands in behti Ganga and apologise to Kumud also by the way?

Or was it a master stroke of combining the apology to Kumud and best political move, where the apology sounds strategic !

Any scenario, not the right way to do it!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dasan.divya

wow crispy crispy bites


Really crisp and hot too today
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Arshi, I have to disagree with you today. What a mind blowing episode it was. Today I have a more clear picture of Kumud's and Saras mindframe. I was a bit confused with why Saras was still around and what Kumud was trying to do.

I didn't feel Saras was playing with her feelings and thinking selfishly.His way of apology might be wrong but he had tried to talk to her. He was praying hard for her to accept it, but when he opened his eyes she was not there. I just loved that scene. His words said it all "If you had forgiven me I would have been a little relieved". He is trying to rest his guilty conscience, trying to see if he can move on knowing he has lost her forever. Yes, he was trying to find a way to move on but today he realised what he had done is beyond forgiveness and apology. "Yahi meri saza hai, Meri dee huyi takleef ke saath thum jee rahi ho, vaise hi mujhe bhi iss pachtave ke saath zindagi bar jeena hoga". He doesn't want to hurt her anymore and decides to go away but looks like Pramad's ruthless attitude towards Kumud would stop him here. I feel even if she shuns him, he will be around to help and support her.

Kumud's anger towards him is understandable.She heard his apology, understood the words but where her life is today an apology is not enough. Like she says her heart is not big enough to forgive him.If she had got a good husband she might have not been harsh still, but the life she has got is no where a happy one. She is in this hell and all because of Saras.So his apology has actually done the reverse pshycology and all the hurt she had hidden is now bursting out in anger. She has come out of her silence and moved on to the next phase, lashing her pain at him in anger.

Today I felt we had actually moved on to next phase.Both were hanging on to the pain and the blame on both sides. Saras was desperately hanging on, clinging to any word of hope that she uttered, desperately clinging to the hope that he would wake up and realise what he had thrown away and it was making him suffer. Today he has made up his mind to accept that he has lost her and his suffering is his punishment. Kumud had tried to swallow the lump in her throat when the entire world of dreams crashed around her. But as soon as she heard the apology, "Betrayal" is what she remembered. His betrayal was more hurtful than his words of apology and now the burning fire inside her is bursting to get out, screaming for an escape.She has started lashing her pain on him and he will take it all silently.

I am not even sure what to say about BD and his wife.A mother who has pampered and hidden all her son's faults and BD,he wants Kumud to bring back his son. How could he even think of shouldering such a responsibility on him and Kumuds is trying to shoulder it but with pain. Saras wants to help her but she rejects him on his face. She will hold to his betrayal and draw strength from it.Whenever she gets beaten by Pramad, she will remember Saras betrayal and would think she can do this, she is strong enough to stand alone, hurt him and face her life.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Excellent post Arshi :) I quite enjoyed the episode.. last two were a bit drag .. I am not quite sure what he wants to achieve through this apology? his own ''atma ki shanti''? the best he could have done in the given situation has already been done the day he folded his hands and cried in the temple.. that is apology .. So now what is it that he wants her to know ? that he didn't betray her trust? that he came rushing back to marry her and found out that she got married the same day to some other guy? that he got beaten up and eventually landed at her in laws.. ?how is all this going to lessen her pain ..? It will only add regret, remorse and guilt .. what is lost is still lost .. Is he not thinking about that? Till this point I don't think so...the few hints about her troubled marriage he got so far have not exactly been an eye opener.. hence looking forward to the coming week...

welcome back Nandy🤗
Edited by vaishali-AR - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


Story is going well, my anger is with the people, bd, pramaad , VC and Saras, and poor Kumud, she is the one who is suffering! I somehow felt that this is not a chota lovers quarrel, so give a sham apology - so let me look at Saras

Was he only wanting to apologise to Kumud, so manipulated the dharmadhikaris so that he could pass on his apology speech, even though it could jeopardize their political interests ?

Or did he see the apology as the right political move, and decided to wash his hands in behti Ganga and apologise to Kumud also by the way?

Or was it a master stroke of combining the apology to Kumud and best political move, where the apology sounds strategic !

Any scenario, not the right way to do it!



i do not think it was any of the above, he was not manipulating or thinking of any master plans, he just wanted to talk to kumud as to why all this happened, and what he had to go through as a result of which she ended up in a disastrous hasty marriage, he is broken too like kumud, he is not enjoying her plight, he just wants to see her happy by explaining his side of the story so that kumud doesn't torture herself mentally or emotionally as to why all this happened, he just wants her to move on in her life by putting the closure to her past, and that is all he wants to do, once all the misunderstandings are cleared he can leave the house in peace and move on with his life!

whenever there is a situation like this it is very important to put a closure to it, otherwise the past memories keep haunting and act like chains around the feet that do not allow us to move forward, he wants kumud and himself to let go off those chains so that they both can live in peace and move on with their lives, as far as the healing part is concerned, time is the best healer...

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