Crisp Bytes SC - 26th July 13 - Page 5

When did Kumud marry Pramaad?

BD did not even attempt in all these years, I am assuming, the mom would not but Kumud is expected to 'reform' Pramaad overnight😕 and she was just informed she is supposed to reform him? Yet I dont think BD was blaming Kumud for a job not well done, yet.

I am just trying to make sense of the whole mess!!😕

SO BD is another hands-on dad like LN. Saras fulfilled his responsibilities and Pramaad rebelled by womanizing and taking to alcohol? I am guessing they are yet to show a back story of Kumud's inlaws.

twila / smrth...

you make some sense...I will try to check this out again..

@ all

Originally posted by: hotdogg

twila / smrth...

you make some sense...I will try to check this out again..

Originally posted by: arshicritic

@ all

Read all the posts in a cooler frame of mind, so many great points brought out, loved each one !

Let me also step back and re look

The episode

1. Great execution

2. Well written lines of the apology script - very cleverly done

3. Started out in BDs voice for the public , then Saras's voice took over, then it was just about them - bas ek main hoon... Bas ek tum ho... She knew he had written it, so she got the message, it was his voice that she heard, but as Kaadal pointed out, when he says apology, she hears betrayal.

4. As smrth pointed out, a lot learnt about BD family today, Alak tries to fulfill her fathers expectations and make up for his disappointment with his son. Some parallel with Kumud there - to be the son for her father! So did she get married to Inkesh? Another mismatch by BD? Or a convenient SIL who will be too spineless to take Alak away from her fathers hold?

5. Kumud is trying to put up the facade of a "normal" life to maintain her dignity, she is not ready to breakdown and go down on her knees in front of her new family - thanks twila

6. Jen looked awful today - beautiful color of the saree, but that jewelery esp the necklace - I am going to put it down to artistic genius and wanting to show a gale ka patta ( dog leash) and not awful taste of the dress designer - yeh kahan aa gaye hum - from Guman's tastefully elegant sarees to Kumud's garish trousseau - esp the blouses - tacky!

The actors

Gauti and Jen - great again - 10/10

Sai Ballal as BD, Vijay Dadlani as Inkesh - great job, both of you portrayed your roles very well - of the arrogant and the nincompoop - 8/10

Vahbiz - too expressionless IMO, in her Indira Gandhi like persona, she appears wooden - 6/10

And Aanshul - you play the despicable pramaad to near perfection - 10/10

Emotional impact - very high - 10/10

Episode rating - 9/10

Now put yourself in Kumudsundari's shoes

Think of how heavily her father's expectations must have weighed her down

Think of how callously the man she loved has let her down - a phone call on the eve of the wedding day

Think of how cold bloodedly her father in law chose her to be the dog trainer/ prison guard and chained her for life

Think of how cruelly her husband informed her that she is just a cheez - an unwanted piece of baggage

And you will understand my rage at her helpless situation at the hands of the men in her life

They were all guided by their self interests - VCs izzat, Saras's ego ( to show his father he can stand on his own) BDs ambitions for his son Pramaad's rebellion - and are as hotdogg pointed out, going on with their lives as they were

Her whole life has been ruined and she is holding up as well as she can - her only motive- love - love for her father and Saraswatichandra

Aaj ka gaana - aaj bas rona, no gaana!

But to explain Kumud's sthiti - some quotes from my pehla pyaar

1. Love can reduce anyone to anything

Arnav Singh Raizada

2. Aap ki iss ek galti ne raaton raat hamari zindagi badal di... Isliye hamare Jo man kiya woh hum karenge, rone ko dil kiya to royenge, aap pe chillane ka man kiya to chillayenge, aur app humain rok nahi sakte!

Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada to Arnav Singh Raizada

all-
Many thanks for the inputs.
Went through the episode.
And Yes...
Some sense prevails.

arshi-
You summed it up well
Cannot add anything more...

Also looks like your theory about Pramad is spot-on.
- Mom's over-indulgence and Dad's discipline is the primary cause of why he's turned out the way he is.
- Add to this potent mixture, his lack of capability plus the nascent / implied sibling rivalry between Pramad & Alak (she has neatly usurped his mantle / role) and you have a wastrel with a huge chip on his shoulder.


Mood - Still dark and full of angst for kumud's plight... 😡🤢

Hope its ok if I suggest a song - specially for kumud

This is from old Adalat movie, sung by Lata
Unko Yeh Shikayat Hai Ke Hum Kuch Nahin Kehte
Apni To Ye Aadat Hai Ke Hum Kuch Nahin Kehte

Majbur Bahut Karata Hai Ye Dil To Zuban Ko
Kuch Aisi Hi Halat Hai Ke Ham Kuch Nahin Kahte
Apni To Ye Aadat ...

Kahne Ko Bahut Kuchh Tha Agar Kahane Pe Aate
Duniya Ki Inaayat Hai Ke Ham Kuch Nahin Kahate
Apni To Ye Aadat ...

Kuch Kahane Pe Toofan Utha Leti Hai Duniya
Ab Isape Qayamat Hai Ke Ham Kuchh Nahin Kahate
Apni To Ye Aadat ..

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Summarized it well.

But, the other main link in this new mess is 'VidyaChatur' to salvage whose prestige and to save him from social stigma that she went through this marriage. The responsible father who finally messed it up.

Regarding Saras, his apology is not enough. Damage cannot be undone. Wounds run too deep. And his decision ruined her life. Does he realize? Yes he does realize what he has done. But, he now also realizes how her marital life is. Maybe more than Kumud who is trying to not think too much about it.

Looking from SAras's standpoint, he has to start somewhere. He tried the verbal route and was rebuffed each time with reasons of 'privacy between man n wife' , 'his being stranger' etc. He tried this route. And it was a very sincere atttempt.

Kumud's standpoint. She is in a mess. The heart-break from Saras and the abusive husband who 'doesnt want to be' are too much to handle. On top of it, she can't share her woes with anyone else in her 'maayka'. That is way too terrible for a girl who is so close to her family. Saras coming in front of her has made it worse.

All the above situations are weighing down on the mind and making it even hard to accept Saras's apology. She is little better when he doesnt try to talk to her. When he tries, hurt she gets from Pramaad seems much more painful. For a girl who has seen only love and affection from parents, its a terrible phase of life.

The most telling scene of today is how aggressively she tries to defend Pramaad and only Saras knows the reasons.

Originally posted by: hotdogg

all-
Many thanks for the inputs.
Went through the episode.
And Yes...
Some sense prevails.

arshi-
You summed it up well
Cannot add anything more...

Also looks like your theory about Pramad is spot-on.
- Mom's over-indulgence and Dad's discipline is the primary cause of why he's turned out the way he is.
- Add to this potent mixture, his lack of capability plus the nascent / implied sibling rivalry between Pramad & Alak (she has neatly usurped his mantle / role) and you have a wastrel with a huge chip on his shoulder.


Mood - Still dark and full of angst for kumud's plight... 😡🤢

Hope its ok if I suggest a song - specially for kumud

This is from old Adalat movie, sung by Lata
Unko Yeh Shikayat Hai Ke Hum Kuch Nahin Kehte
Apni To Ye Aadat Hai Ke Hum Kuch Nahin Kehte

Majbur Bahut Karata Hai Ye Dil To Zuban Ko
Kuch Aisi Hi Halat Hai Ke Ham Kuch Nahin Kahte
Apni To Ye Aadat ...

Kahne Ko Bahut Kuchh Tha Agar Kahane Pe Aate
Duniya Ki Inaayat Hai Ke Ham Kuch Nahin Kahate
Apni To Ye Aadat ...

Kuch Kahane Pe Toofan Utha Leti Hai Duniya
Ab Isape Qayamat Hai Ke Ham Kuchh Nahin Kahate
Apni To Ye Aadat ..

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

You meant to say she is protecting Saras now by not exposing him?

I agree on Kumud's situation. She is the one at least fault and suffering most. I think we all agree on that. And sympathize with her. Its her struggle and her pain that is at the center now.