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Posted: 12 years ago
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arshij cograts for being a active member(late wishes).I just saw the news letter.
p.s please kindly bear me .this is going to be a long post.watched 8 episodes at a stretch.26 -5th.for 4 hours.
couldn't stop myself from writing the views.(like saras jasbatoon ki toofaan ko ab nahi tam sakthe).
what a week.😭
my first reaction why I am addicted to sc?
my second reaction GOVARDHANRAM MADHAVRAM TRIPATHI JI TAKE A BOW.(for such a classic piece).👏 slb and whole team of sc 👏 for sticking to original plot and not getting into the trap of trps. I like these kind of love stories(sadism).for a movie it is three hour journey with the characters.
daily soap is a new experience to me with this kind of story. I am enjoying this emotional rollercoaster ride.
lastweek it is totally on techno romance and kc
kc -big logic ki vaat.if they showed it as teej then it would have been logical.may be they are using moon as symbolism for their oaths they opted kc.
renovation of room according to kumud taste.i felt like it was indeed kumud,s room.
dialogue of the week-TUM MUJHE NA DEKPAVUNGI YA NA SUNPAVUNGI.(POOR IN HINDI).
THIS WEEK
ln-saras,ghumaan-saras,dugba-kumari,three sisters,danny-kumud fantastic.
GHUMAAN what kind of wife is she. ln is humiliated by mr.laal and she is enjoying.when saras was crying holding the letter the way she behaved😡what kind of woman ?
slb made good choice in casting including illaben,chamuri,mr.laal but ghumaan i'm not satisfied but this week she proved not a bad choice.
KUSUM her dialouges 😡😡😡😡
DANNY cute devar helping his babhi and her sister.⭐️now I got the purpose of danny staying back at ratnanagari.barath should not be there to send ram to vanavas.
KUMARI umesk ki tappad and understanding her mothers love. too late samud are going to suffer for her deeds.
saras leaving to ratnagari ,breaking fast ,taking oaths,mr.laal deal canceled,ln humiliated,saras past,truth about ln-ghumaan affair ,ma ki sucide reason a series of events happened to set the stage for famous separation.
BLACK FRIDAY
SARASWATHICHANDRA NOT VYAS(CREDIT ARSHIJI)
he lost his mom in childhood,now he came to know the biggest truth of his life,he disowned his father.his state of mind is not stable.i can understand where he stands at this point. I want to share my personal experience regarding childhood trauma.my aunt burnt herself infront of her daughter who is 22 months old.that was a momentary action by her when she had an heated argument with my uncle.(simple issue).when she saw her daughter coming towards her she realised what she did and cried for help.she was rushed to the hospital but she was d... after 3 days.22 month old and 5 year old daughters witnessed this after few weeks. younger cousin when she saw fire in the tv she was scared and hugged my mom and cried.both the families took good care of her.they need love, care ,attention to get out of that fear.she used to recognize her mom's sarees,acessories.she is just 22 months old.recently i came to know that 5 year girl who turned to 22 now is afraid of cooking because of fire.
here saras was 5 year old kid who witnessed his mothers sucide.dugba saved him but he did not get love ,attention from ln and ghumaans step-son treatment made him fear for relation ships.so his rejection letter for kumud is some what justified.
I cried with him, I sympathize,i pity him but now what he did to kumud is unaccepetable,unjustified
what was his explanation ''mere pass koyi rang nahi tumhari odhini par lagane keleye".
saras was always week and vulnerable . his decisions were always impulsive. momentary actions not thinking before doing.
he wrote letter to kumud- later feeling bad for not saying sorry.
came to ratanagari to reject her-wants to see her face not knowing what to do after that.
kamar par haath-momentary action for her unconditional love forgot still his answer was no.
chaar kadam ki doori-teacherjiki baath manliya but on the stormy night 😉later questioning her why did you call me blah blah.
hum dono ki beech kuch to hai which neither u can deny nor me-immediatelty started chaar kadam ki doori.
char kadam ki doori finished-jasbatoon ki dooriya banakar rakna.after father son patch up he want to thank her and gave a surprise party(he made her dream come true).
he fought for her and when she was nursing his wounds he made the confession.(almost).
during bhoomipuja muhruth ghumaan taunted him-he decided to do on the same day.
may be pms is also result of this nature.some times I feel he loves to llive in his own world either it is love,sorrow or hate.he forgets rest of the world.befeore kumud entered his life he lived in his own world of sorrowness never tried to mend things with ln.when ln said he is proud of his son he became so happy that he got his fathers love after many years and was drowned in his fathers love he did not even bothered to ask his dad what was the reason for his mothers sucide. he took his fathers side and shouted on kumud(not debating who is right , who is wrong) when ln and vc had fight.should have shown some maturity.his fathers one word "I should thank saraswathi for giving me a son like saras".he forgot years of pain .that was impact of his fathers love on him .at that point he would have gone against the world for his dad. kumud entered into his world and became his world.he made many promises,tume pane ka zidh hai,tum sirf meri,now his world is his dad and his kumud.he became so confident that nothing can go wrong.ln and kumuds love became pillars of strength for him.now one pillar has broken down from the base.instead of taking the support of other pillar he is destroying the other pillar and want to become baseless.how long can he stay like that is not getting into his mind right now.sunny has to take immediate action.
I am liking the cahracterisation of saras.why always heros or male leads have to be strong and can do anything and everything.in every other soap the female lead is misundrerstood and she has to prove her point.i want saras to prove his love not just by sorry or by his past story.i want him to go through agnipariksha . I don't want kumud to forgive him easily.
why the authors of that era choose male lead as week and female leads as strong and bold.
in devadas paro's dialogue when she meet him after the marriage "tum meri saath mera gahr chalo mein tuhare seva karunga" that was my favourite dialogue.these novels were written 100 years back where there were many social sanctions on women.still they showed them strong.i wondered if he said yes to her what would she tell to her husband and the society.
KUMUD SUNDARI DESAI.
the prince broke your heart into million pieces the way flower was shattered on the ground.he collected the petals carefully.he can never make a flower but will take care of petals(credit reemz).now he should take care of that broken pieces which has his image.can he fix the pieces and make the picture clear.we have to wait and see.your marriage with pramad may be a result of family honour,fathers request or for the pride or ego or an impulsive decision like saras
whatever it may be I am with you.my support to you.your dreams of marrying love of your life has been shattered.mehandhi with his name and marrying a total stranger on the same mandap is not less than a hell. if we balance the pain of samud then what kumud is going through is n times more than saras.
i want to hear a detailed conversation or discussion between sunny and saras in tomorrow's episode about what is going on his mind and why he has decided to call off the marriage. probably an entire episode on this.
looks like kumud's in-laws were good. it will be a tough decision for her in the future if they were too good.waiting for pramad .how can they show pramad as in the book.womaniser ,drunkered doesn't suit to the current time and to the character of kumud.
my question
where did that sucide note come from? does ln have that or ghumaan.the letter was in green envelope and ghumaan took that from saras cabin.who send that?cover looks new.i felt bad for ln. he really loves ghumaan.ln felt so bad that he was humiliated in the merger party because of saras.did he ever thought what dugba and vc had gone through.ln was easily influenced by the people around him.he was totally a different man in ratnanagari.wonder how he became a business tycoon.
suggestion to saras-RISHTHA NIBHANE WALA HUM HAI AUR USE ADHURI CHODNEWALA BI HUME HAI. RISHTHTO SE SHIKAYATH KYON?
teacherji explained it just follow it and complete the daastan.
arshiji don't reply to this post. since this is the turning point in their story i want to pen down my thoughts.there were lot of great writers in this thread who explain everything in a single phrase or context or with simple theory and ofcourse by shyari.i am very bad at that.flow of thoughts after watching this week episodes.
i think i am mis using your thread. waiting for a statement from arshiji"YOU ARE BANNED FROM CB THREAD".😉
P.S EXCELLENT PERFORMANCES BY GAUTAM AND JENNY.
STANDING OVATION TO THE CAST ,CREW AND TO THE MAN BEHIND THIS GREAT PROJECT SLB.
HATTS OFF TO THE LOYAL VIEWERS FOR STICKING TO SC. SAMUD NEEDS OUR SUPPORT.
Edited by psam4 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


Are television viewers ready for it?

A "good" husband means Kumud must fall in love with him, and so the end of Samud!

Look at HDCCS, really bold would have been if Nandini went with Samir, but SLB, chose a safe ending - falling in love with the husband.

If Pramad is a good guy, TRP swing will be towards accepting him as the love of her life, so Pramad must be bad, if Samud are to be!

arshiji i want to quote something on hddcs.
do you remember nandini has a sister.she has a love story but because of family she married another guy.he turned out to be a bad guy.she came back to her parents house.they want to send her back but nandini opposed and she got her sister married to the guy she loved.but in her case she stick to her marriage.slb choose both the routes .famous dialogue of nandini"pyar karna tumne sikhya lekina pyar nibhana meri pati sikhya" to Sameer. imagine if kumud says same line to saras😆.i don't know why but somehow i like vanraj more than Sameer.if pramad is vanraj then i may take acomplete U-turn and support pramud than samud.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: psam4

arshiji i want to quote something on hddcs.
do you remember nandini has a sister.she has a love story but because of family she married another guy.he turned out to be a bad guy.she came back to her parents house.they want to send her back but nandini opposed and she got her sister married to the guy she loved.but in her case she stick to her marriage.slb choose both the routes .famous dialogue of nandini"pyar karna tumne sikhya lekina pyar nibhana meri pati sikhya" to Sameer. imagine if kumud says same line to saras😆.i don't know why but somehow i like vanraj more than Sameer.if pramad is vanraj then i may take acomplete U-turn and support pramud than samud.😊


That's exactly why I am rooting for a villainous Pramad and not the good guy pramad . Because a good Pramad will spell the end of Samud
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@psam4,

Welcome back and it was a pleasure reading your looong post, like a recap of the week, and of course loved reading your perspective, very emotional and touching!

That you could personally relate to Saras 's mindset also adds to our understanding of his complex persona, having witnessed such a tragedy, he will never be rid of these demons!

I am sure seeing many episodes in one go actually gives a sense of continuity and flow, that we miss due to the24 hr gap from epi to epi.

So, a tough time for Saras and kumud and the next week promises to be as emotional as this one, maybe even more!

Edited by arshicritic - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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we will still be on the edge even if he is a bad guy for quite some time after ...
dunno if there is a track in which bad guy turns to good due to kumud...

am hoping this will not be the case..

because I think we will see a confused, heart-broken, numb, non-reactive kumud who will be be dead inside and going throught the motions of a marriage in the beginning...she will be in a shell...passive...

if this guy is bad it will further compound kumud withdrawing more into her shell..


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hotdogg


we will still be on the edge even if he is a bad guy for quite some time after ...
dunno if there is a track in which bad guy turns to good due to kumud...

am hoping this will not be the case..

because I think we will see a confused, heart-broken, numb, non-reactive kumud who will be be dead inside and going throught the motions of a marriage in the beginning...she will be in a shell...passive...

if this guy is bad it will further compound kumud withdrawing more into her shell..



I think so too, pride coupled with heartbreak will push Kumud into the marriage and then probably as you said, dead inside, she wouldn't really care about herself, and hence may just go through the motions and keep up the facade of the marriage, her confrontation with Saras after the marriage will be interesting to see
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hotdogg


we will still be on the edge even if he is a bad guy for quite some time after ...
dunno if there is a track in which bad guy turns to good due to kumud...

am hoping this will not be the case..

because I think we will see a confused, heart-broken, numb, non-reactive kumud who will be be dead inside and going throught the motions of a marriage in the beginning...she will be in a shell...passive...

if this guy is bad it will further compound kumud withdrawing more into her shell..



Just a thought..
How much we love Samud here..but why?
A husband, a boyfriend breaks Himalayan promises.. one finds them at every street corner.
A wife, keeps taking back her abusive husband.. We brand them as doormats.

I'm amazed at human psychology that everyone wants Samud back..pleading Kumud to wait for him..

Why? What makes us believe in eternal love of theirs..I guess I'm yet to see the eternal love unfolding further. I hope I may change my perspective.

LN's every word at Saras "bhagoda' he proved it right.
Kumud's outburst at him that she is pitying him, empathy is lost as he himself is pushing himself to his world of pain and despair(Saras showing anger by ploughing fields at earlier episode), exactly so.

By the way I do not believe in great love stories being tragic..one of them is 'bhagoda' if one analyzes well. Call of duty, not standing up for themselves .. Suicide!!
I do believe in love when I see couple in 70's 80's of age, lived all their life together and complete each other's sentences.., hold their hands, even one is demented. They are great love stories.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Adiani


Just a thought..
How much we love Samud here..but why?
A husband, a boyfriend breaks Himalayan promises.. one finds them at every street corner.
A wife, keeps taking back her abusive husband.. We brand them as doormats.

I'm amazed at human psychology that everyone wants Samud back..pleading Kumud to wait for him..

Why? What makes us believe in eternal love of theirs..I guess I'm yet to see the eternal love unfolding further. I hope I may change my perspective.

LN's every word at Saras "bhagoda' he proved it right.
Kumud's outburst at him that she is pitying him, empathy is lost as he himself is pushing himself to his world of pain and despair(Saras showing anger by ploughing fields at earlier episode), exactly so.

By the way I do not believe in great love stories being tragic..one of them is 'bhagoda' if one analyzes well. Call of duty, not standing up for themselves .. Suicide!!
I do believe in love when I see couple in 70's 80's of age, lived all their life together and complete each other's sentences.., hold their hands, even one is demented. They are great love stories.


Beautifully said Adiani, a man is judged by his actions, no matter what the emotions behind it, and so Saras is the bhagoda, and will have to live with the burden of this.

Yes much that is passed over as ordinary and mundane is actually strong and true and extraordinary, however, we often look for tradegy, trauma and torment before we brand anything as great.

The day Saras and Kumud unite to live happily ever after, we would unfortunately be no longer interested in their story, for then they would join the ranks of you and me, happily living our lives with our small joys and sorrows!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hotdogg


we will still be on the edge even if he is a bad guy for quite some time after ...
dunno if there is a track in which bad guy turns to good due to kumud...

am hoping this will not be the case..

because I think we will see a confused, heart-broken, numb, non-reactive kumud who will be be dead inside and going throught the motions of a marriage in the beginning...she will be in a shell...passive...

if this guy is bad it will further compound kumud withdrawing more into her shell..



@bold- Hgg, I think changing one man, is enough for a lifetime for poor Kumud.. bechari sabka theka liya hai kya usne?😆

Agree with rest of your comment..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaishali-AR


@bold- Hgg, I think changing one man, is enough for a lifetime for poor Kumud.. bechari sabka theka liya hai kya usne?😆

Agree with rest of your comment..


* original alert*

Unfortunately true...even on Sundar Giri mountain, where they meet again- one to one- she was still hoping to support and 'redeem' her husband/marriage, not knowing she is already widowed and SC had no heart to break the news he learnt recently.


Edited by smrth - 12 years ago

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