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Posted: 15 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: reguser

Writing it in the exam? 😲 Sania, you are really too much 😆
Yes, I know. History is very boring because they make it boring in the school/college. Actually, history is very interesting if we are allowed to write our opinions instead of writing what they (examiners) expect 😆

Ofcourse why not i wil get a non stop A+++++++++++++++++😉😆
@red: yes true though
@blue: I wil write abt this forum bidaai history kyun ki..People shoud know the histry of bidaai forum & it wil be intersting too👍🏼🤣
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vanilla24

wht do u mean by blood wont change
see its nothing like its all iin bood,its highly illogical,unscientific and conservative approach
a character develops in ones early child hood days
if ragini as a parent will tell khuhi tht its not right to sacrifce ur hapiness for tamanna as this will indeed hurt tammy and ragini thn khushi wont take such step.
Ragini need to inculcate this thing in khushi tht she should not try to make tammy happy on cost of her happiness.

it would be good if ragini can do it.
yet I feel, even if she taught her this, khushi wont change much
no matter how many times sadhana had to face the wrath of people and time, yet she never changed till she died
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Posted: 15 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: sanw

it would be good if ragini can do it.
yet I feel, even if she taught her this, khushi wont change much
no matter how many times sadhana had to face the wrath of people and time, yet she never changed till she died

see nothing depends on khushi
all depends on creatives
y sadhna had to suffer because ragini ,and mamaji intead of stopping her further sacrificng for them they were shown being overwhelmed by her sacrifices
ragini can stop khushi and she rather must stop her
i hae got tired of seeing ragini and tammy happiness at cost of khushi and sadhna pains
ragini must strictly stop khushi to sacrifice anymore for tammy
every one comes with ones own luck better njoy ur luck
if tammy has to suffer something for colour let her alone deal with the problem and if god has made khsuhi fair and thts y she will egt more oppurtunietes thn let her njoy those oppurtunities
i dont want see tammy getting anything at cost of khushi happiness anymore
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Posted: 15 years ago
#84
I guess ragini would be stopping khishi as she said main aur kurbainiyan nahin dene dungi....
fumthing new would be rather acceptable than this same story,,,,
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: KinchuKiPari

I guess ragini would be stopping khishi as she said main aur kurbainiyan nahin dene dungi....
fumthing new would be rather acceptable than this same story,,,,

appu tujhe lagta hai creatives ke paas itna dimag hai tht they can show something new.oooooops sorrry ofcourse they can show something new,bhai leads ko maar diya,anmol ko leaye,but cts ka dimag yahin chalta hai,regrding sisters,it will be same story tammy grey character,khushi suffering like sadhna for tammy
all this bakwaas will continue genreation after generation
if khushi has to suffer anymore for tammy thn better kill tammy
i cant see tammy getting things in her life or happiness at cost of of khushi's kurbanniyan
i cant see khushi leading life full of suffering just like sadhna and cant see tammy being shown as dependent on other people for her happiness just they have shown with ragini
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: reguser

Well, I feel topic like selflessness is very subjective. There is nothing right or wrong as it depends on our own interpretation. I am into research filed (ofcourse, I am not doing research on selflessness though 😉) and I have seen there are many theories (psychological, social-science etc.) which contradict each other. Each person who contradicts gives his/her valid reasons for it. These are not like pure science subjects like Maths, Physics, Chemistry where chances of contradiction are less. Because, there it is more of quantitative studies and hence numbers prove whether things are right or wrong. Just like Einstein's E=MC2.😃

Similarly, I enjoy reading some of the posts in this forum. Though, I enjoy other serials much better these days than Bidai, I like to come to this forum mainly because of some matured discussions taking place here. Well, I am not telling there won't be any matured discussions in other forums. But, I am not aware of it much. Here, mainly I like to read Bani's posts as I feel they contain matured analysis of situations/characters, Vishmewell's posts because they crack me up many times, Smitha/Smita, Anu, Yanks, Laxmi (queen of emoticons), Appu (Dew-drop pearl), purhearts, unhappy (dont know where she is these days), chocolover, Suchitra and many more.. I don't agree with everyone each time and at the same time I don't expect others to agree with me. Because as I have mentioned in the first para, these things are very subjective. Even if a proper study with huge number of data analysis (N=1000+) is done on such matters, there still can be another angle to see things. So instead of trying to prove others wrong, it is better if we discuss why we have a different opinion.

In this topic also, I am sure people who appreciated Khushi's acts definitely didn't support any kind of self-destructive nature. First of all, I don't think Khushi has done any self-destructiveness in offering a role to Tammy. It is a small sacrifice/token of love for her sister. Well, even I don't like this nature of such a small child because of the past track of Bidai. I just don't want her to suffer like Sadhna. That's it. If the show has just started (without any past history), then I would have called Khush's sacrifice to her sister as a small token of love for her sister. As I myself have seen such things in my family, I don't think something unusual in this.

Having said this, I would definitely love to see Ragini/Anmol (mainly Ragini here) teaching the kids to take the right paths. Khushi needs to be taught not to support Tammy in each and every phase of life (as this may make Tammy too much dependent on others, which is not good) and Tammy to accept things as it comes in life (without expecting to win/get things each time). That would be a major challenge for Ragini. Actually, Ragini is matured enough to see the big picture. She should stop Khushi (just like how she told to herself in today's episode) for the sake of Khushi and Tammy both. If Khushi supports Tammy thoughout like this, its a problem for not only Khushi but for Tammy also. However, she has done right in acknowledging Khushi's love for Tammy. That is no doubt, very much appreciable (both Khushi's love and Ragini's acknowledgment)

So, just like how selflessness has many dimensions, its interpretation also has many dimensions. No one is supporting self-destructiveness here. Actually, selflessness and self-destructive nature are different (atleast in case of Khushi).

Phew, I think I have written a big essay. Hope u guys don't get bored (if you read) reading this. 😃

wonderful analysis Pallavi😆..actually, these days, I just go through some few people's posts, the main reason being lack of time. I 'll try to find out later what led u to compare self destruction with selflessness, if I find time.
"Self destruction" also contains the word "self" in it and a person who is selfless or is sick and tired of life, can only think of "self destruction". People who are selfless do not act selfless because they want to destroy themselves, rather they do so because more than that self-destruction element, what matters to them is the happiness and security of others. Khushi in her attempt to make Tammy fairy never was thinking that she is destroying herself, she is happy at seeing Tammy happy. For Sadhna also, her happiness was to see others happy and secure. For people like Sadhna, Khushi, Anmol, "self destruction" never bothers them, because int heir dictionary selflessness matters not self destruction.
Yesterday's episode showed Sadhna's death sequence again. She gave up her life to save a child whom she hardly knew. She knew very well that she could lose her life while saving the child, but that did not stop her in her attempt. Same thing she did, while saving Vasu from the fire. Vasu was responsible for inflicting a lot of pain to her, but still she jumped into the fire to save Vasu. This shows that selfless people like Sadhna do not care the part of "self destruction" , as they think even if something is destroyed, its a part of them but the net gain from that self destruction is the other person's security and happiness...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

wonderful analysis Pallavi😆..actually, these days, I just go through some few people's posts, the main reason being lack of time. I 'll try to find out later what led u to compare self destruction with selflessness, if I find time.

"Self destruction" also contains the word "self" in it and a person who is selfless or is sick and tired of life, can only think of "self destruction". People who are selfless do not act selfless because they want to destroy themselves, rather they do so because more than that self-destruction element, what matters to them is the happiness and security of others. Khushi in her attempt to make Tammy fairy never was thinking that she is destroying herself, she is happy at seeing Tammy happy. For Sadhna also, her happiness was to see others happy and secure. For people like Sadhna, Khushi, Anmol, "self destruction" never bothers them, because int heir dictionary selflessness matters not self destruction.
Yesterday's episode showed Sadhna's death sequence again. She gave up her life to save a child whom she hardly knew. She knew very well that she could lose her life while saving the child, but that did not stop her in her attempt. Same thing she did, while saving Vasu from the fire. Vasu was responsible for inflicting a lot of pain to her, but still she jumped into the fire to save Vasu. This shows that selfless people like Sadhna do not care the part of "self destruction" , as they think even if something is destroyed, its a part of them but the net gain from that self destruction is the other person's security and happiness...

@Bold - I wanted to convey the same thing, but ofcourse didnt get proper words 😃
Because of so much of analysis, finally I watched yesterday's episode. And they showed Sadi's death sequence (which I was intentionally avoiding). But a good episode though.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: reguser

@Bold - I wanted to convey the same thing, but ofcourse didnt get proper words 😃
Because of so much of analysis, finally I watched yesterday's episode. And they showed Sadi's death sequence (which I was intentionally avoiding). But a good episode though.

good one again Pallavi...
another point worth considering in Khushi, that was also a part of Sdahna...that she did want to give Tammy happiness, but tried to prove that she herself was not eager to do the fairy. This was not exemplified for Sadhna, when for every incident for which she deserved credit, she maintained the backseat and stayed humble. She never tried to boast about her feelings or tried to prove to people how "selfless" she was...this I also noticed in Anmol, when after saving the child, he quickly passed every credit to Ranveer.
Actions speak louder always..and then it is upto the people how to interpret.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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[QUOTE=Omshanti1111good one again Pallavi...
another point worth considering in Khushi, that was also a part of Sdahna...that she did want to give Tammy happiness, but tried to prove that she herself was not eager to do the fairy. This was not exemplified for Sadhna, when for every incident for which she deserved credit, she maintained the backseat and stayed humble. She never tried to boast about her feelings or tried to prove to people how "selfless" she was...this I also noticed in Anmol, when after saving the child, he quickly passed every credit to Ranveer.
Actions speak louder always..and then it is upto the people how to interpret.
Actually, I have seen Bidai after many many days.
I liked the kids very much. I liked this new Ragini also. She has changed a lot. I always wanted to see her understanding the things without explanation from others. This was seen in her today. Specially when Tammy told her about Khushi's illness.
We expect a lot from Ragini actually. Hence, sometime people feel that we comment her. Actually, we dont expect anything from people like Kaushi/Malthi/Vasu. There is lot of expectation from Ragini.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i have been bidaai free for more than a month(vacation isnt over yet)......today i finally logged into IF just to read the update......it looks like not much has changed......the writers are trying to repeat history through khushi and tamana......nothing new.......i am glad i didnt bother watching bidaai on youtube.

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