Selflessness is in her blood...

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Pallavi

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Posted: 15 years ago

#91

Originally posted by: unhappyviewer

i have been bidaai free for more than a month(vacation isnt over yet)......today i finally logged into IF just to read the update......it looks like not much has changed......the writers are trying to repeat history through khushi and tamana......nothing new.......i am glad i didnt bother watching bidaai on youtube.

Areee yaaar.... where were you? Forum was spiceless without you.....

Good to see u back...

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Bani

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Posted: 15 years ago

#92

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Purehearts

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Posted: 15 years ago

#93

Originally posted by: unhappyviewer
i have been bidaai free for more than a month(vacation isnt over yet)......today i finally logged into IF just to read the update......it looks like not much has changed......the writers are trying to repeat history through khushi and tamana......nothing new.......i am glad i didnt bother watching bidaai on youtube.

Unhappy missed you so much!!!🤗

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gilmores

@gilmores

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Posted: 15 years ago

#94

Originally posted by: reguser

Well, I feel topic like selflessness is very subjective. There is nothing right or wrong as it depends on our own interpretation. I am into research filed (ofcourse, I am not doing research on selflessness though 😉) and I have seen there are many theories (psychological, social-science etc.) which contradict each other. Each person who contradicts gives his/her valid reasons for it. These are not like pure science subjects like Maths, Physics, Chemistry where chances of contradiction are less. Because, there it is more of quantitative studies and hence numbers prove whether things are right or wrong. Just like Einstein's E=MC2.😃

Similarly, I enjoy reading some of the posts in this forum. Though, I enjoy other serials much better these days than Bidai, I like to come to this forum mainly because of some matured discussions taking place here. Well, I am not telling there won't be any matured discussions in other forums. But, I am not aware of it much. Here, mainly I like to read Bani's posts as I feel they contain matured analysis of situations/characters, Vishmewell's posts because they crack me up many times, Smitha/Smita, Anu, Yanks, Laxmi (queen of emoticons), Appu (Dew-drop pearl), purhearts, unhappy (dont know where she is these days), chocolover, Suchitra and many more.. I don't agree with everyone each time and at the same time I don't expect others to agree with me. Because as I have mentioned in the first para, these things are very subjective. Even if a proper study with huge number of data analysis (N=1000+) is done on such matters, there still can be another angle to see things. So instead of trying to prove others wrong, it is better if we discuss why we have a different opinion.

In this topic also, I am sure people who appreciated Khushi's acts definitely didn't support any kind of self-destructive nature. First of all, I don't think Khushi has done any self-destructiveness in offering a role to Tammy. It is a small sacrifice/token of love for her sister. Well, even I don't like this nature of such a small child because of the past track of Bidai. I just don't want her to suffer like Sadhna. That's it. If the show has just started (without any past history), then I would have called Khush's sacrifice to her sister as a small token of love for her sister. As I myself have seen such things in my family, I don't think something unusual in this.

Having said this, I would definitely love to see Ragini/Anmol (mainly Ragini here) teaching the kids to take the right paths. Khushi needs to be taught not to support Tammy in each and every phase of life (as this may make Tammy too much dependent on others, which is not good) and Tammy to accept things as it comes in life (without expecting to win/get things each time). That would be a major challenge for Ragini. Actually, Ragini is matured enough to see the big picture. She should stop Khushi (just like how she told to herself in today's episode) for the sake of Khushi and Tammy both. If Khushi supports Tammy thoughout like this, its a problem for not only Khushi but for Tammy also. However, she has done right in acknowledging Khushi's love for Tammy. That is no doubt, very much appreciable (both Khushi's love and Ragini's acknowledgment)

So, just like how selflessness has many dimensions, its interpretation also has many dimensions. No one is supporting self-destructiveness here. Actually, selflessness and self-destructive nature are different (atleast in case of Khushi).

Phew, I think I have written a big essay. Hope u guys don't get bored (if you read) reading this. 😃

Exactly! This sacrifice of Khushi is a small sacrifice, nothing major like Sadhna used to do, but to see, in my case read about since I don't watch Bidaai anymore, a 7-year old already in that mode is disturbing..Plus like you said, Bidaai's past record makes me even more wary of what the DT has planned for Khushi in terms of sacrifices..

I guess one thing I've never truly understood is TV's need to show sacrifices so much. Are people who don't sacrifice bad people? Or are the people who sacrifice the ONLY good people? Is sacrificing the only basis for being a good human being?

@bold Exactly my point! Ragini needs to teach Khushi that sacrificng for Tammy might not be good for Tammy in the end as Tammy might become unable to make decisions by herself even though Khushi's intentions are very pure and noble.

I am going to get major brickbats for this, but I have always felt Sadhna was a major reason for why Ragini had low-confidence, was so dependent on everybody. Sadhna used to stand in the way and not let any problems get to Ragini, hence Ragini never really learned how to solve her own problems by herself. She was always dependent on Sadhna and then Ranvir to solve everything. After her miscarriage Ragini had "fallen down," she needed to learn to stand up by herself, not for Sadhna to pick her up again and again (dance competition). I just feel like though Sadhna had very pure and noble intentions and Ragini's best interests at heart, she did a lot of damage to Ragini's self-confidence by always doing everythign for Ragini. Yes it was her immense love for Ragini that made her do everything, but somewhere she needed to let go and understand that she might be crippling Ragini. That's what I expected Mamaji to teach Sadhna, and not glorify her. I wanted Mamaji to acknowledge that Sadhna's intentions were very good and he understands why she does everything for Ragini, but to explain to her that Ragini needs to learn to face life's probelms on her own because Sadhna would not always be there to solve them for Ragini..That's what I would for Ragini to teach Khushi..

As for self-destruct, I think people meant that Sadhna went over and beyond in her sacrifices that she basically brought all sorts of problems onto herself--rift track + afterwards..Khushi's sacrifice is not slef-destructing, but right now it's just a small sacrifice, but considering Bidaai's track record it could turn into big sacrifices later..

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Bani

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Posted: 15 years ago

#95

@ chocolover 89

Ragini's main reason of low self-confidence was Kaushi and her making Rgaini remind that she is dark complexioned. The same thing Kaushi tried with Tamanna the other day, but I am happy Ragini came and protested against that.

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Richie..

@Richie..

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Posted: 15 years ago

#96

Good discussion havent read all the posts but this is my view as a viewer hat sadhna was all about her jiji and i dont want khushi to be that way and it was good to see today when she said to tammy that she wont choose between her and her dad.

If i come to her sacrifice i just wish that child should not have done that she should have beeb the pari her mother was pari( i mean sadhna was a fairy god mother for me the way she married alekh leave that the worse was when she had to drop a vaas on her foot)

Khushi somewhere down the line is her mother's shadow lets see if they show how she is when she grows up but for now i want her to get her dad's love.

Edited by tv_rocks - 15 years ago

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gilmores

@gilmores

Stunner

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Posted: 15 years ago

#97

@Bani

I am not denying Kaushi's role in Ragini's low-confidence at all..Kaushi did a LOT of damage to Ragini's personality..I am just saying Sadhna also had quite a major part in shaping Ragini..I mentioned Sadhna exclusively in my post because it went with the selflessness point..

Ironically, both Kaushi and Sadhna love Ragini to bits and pieces and always did everythign for Ragini's good, atleast in their own opinion..but somewhere both indirectly crippled Ragini..Kaushi with her attitude towards Ragini's color and Sadhna by always sacrificing and thus making Ragini dependent on herself..

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Bani

@Omshanti1111

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Posted: 15 years ago

#98

Originally posted by: tv_rocks
Good discussion havent read all the posts but this is my view as a viewer hat sadhna was all about her jiji and i dont want khushi to be that way and it was good to see today when she said to tammy that she wont choose between her and her dad.

If i come to her sacrifice i just wish that child should not have done that she should have beeb the pari her mother was pari( i mean sadhna was a fairy god mother for me the way she married alekh leave that the worse was when she had to drop a vaas on her foot)

Khushi somewhere down the line is her mother's shadow lets see if they show how she is when she grows up but for now i want her to get her dad's love.

very nice post...

I also liked thw ay when Khushi said that she cant choose...that shows the confidence in the child. Yesterday, she was just brilliant at the stage..

Frankly speaking, when the teacher was announcing the theme about the "pari", I had a feel she was describing Sadhna...