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Posted: 15 years ago
@Chocolatelover, lets be fair here.
Ragini is not confident, that is the truth.And another fact is parents contribute to most of it!
Sadhana did lot of sacrifices for Ragini, but only the results helped to bail Ragini out of the situations, rather than affecting Ragini's confidence in any way.

Lets take some instances for ex: Sadhna never directly helped in Ragini's marrige(though she did try to take word from Vasu which did not really work , thanks to Vasu's shatir dimaag).After marriage she tried to tell Vasu to be good with her sister, but Vasu once again brushed her off.
In Ranveer jail isssue, Sadhna was contemplating to do the right things,if she really had to help Ragini then she should have lied in the court!!!!
Miscarriage issue, Ragini was distraught and blamed Sadhna.
Ranveer asked what will cheer up Ragini, so Sadhana gave him the idea of dance school.
Dance competition, Sadhana had not planned to loose it the moment she saw Ragini, but after Ragini blamed that Sadhana is snatching her every happiness and she will never recover if snatches this one too..That is when she decided to give up.


I know Sadhna ruled the show while trying to save Ragini each time.And that was the biggest thing which sat in our head.In a way she was trying to be Ragini's guardian angel.
I too am not 100% in agreement with whatever Sadhna did .
But no body can build and break a person's condifidence except parents.
If you are a strong person, then first off all you will not get stuck in situations like that.OK lets say things get out of control and bad things happens for even good and strong people, then also if you are a strong personality, you will have only a momentary eclipse in your life and you will come out of it, not drift into it.You are always in control of yourself, that is what a stable /CONFIDENT person is all about!!!!!

Anyways I am not very happy by the way they are pushing Khushi to take her mother's seat at this very tender age, while she is supposed to play and just be a kid, no matter how things are bad in her life.
But this is Bidaai, while they made Ragini look incredibly helpless before , they also made Sadhana take the popularity in a very unfamous way for the sole quality that described her "Sacrifice"I hope they don't repeat the same with Khushi and Tammy.




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Posted: 15 years ago
@Purehearts
I completely agree with what you have to say about Sadhna's contribution towards Ragini. Sadhna's not a single action was to demean Ragini or make her low in confidence. Rather, her every step was to make Ragini feel that she is capable like everyone else.
I feel about Khushi...more than sacrifice what is being shown is Khushi's personality. For Khushi, leaving the fairy role to Tammy is not sacrifice, its just her happiness. And she was really so happy backstage to see Tammy as fairy.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

@Purehearts

I completely agree with what you have to say about Sadhna's contribution towards Ragini. Sadhna's not a single action was to demean Ragini or make her low in confidence. Rather, her every step was to make Ragini feel that she is capable like everyone else.
I feel about Khushi...more than sacrifice what is being shown is Khushi's personality. For Khushi, leaving the fairy role to Tammy is not sacrifice, its just her happiness. And she was really so happy backstage to see Tammy as fairy.


Bani, Sadhana was only being a part of Ragini's solution, not eclipse her acts.
I think out of sight,is out of mind.Everyone of us are forgetting the before leap story.And versions of the story which are derived from our thoughts will come up.So we need to refresh the real story memories now and then.

Yes Khushi cannot be anything other than her mom's avatar, but they need to portray it better, not in a controversial way.The scenes and instances they use should not be out of place, impractical or unnatural.
It has to have touch of reality, so that was can enjoy it more than doubting her acts.
I am just asking Cts to to portray Khusi's as a well rounded character and not limit her to just sacrifices like Sadhna did.

Edited by Purehearts - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Purehearts


Bani, Sadhana was only being a part of Ragini's solution, not eclipse her acts.
I think out of sight, out of mind, everyone of us are forgetting the before leap story.And version of the story which are derived from our thoughts will come up.So we need to refresh it now and then.

Yes Khushi cannot be anything other than her mom's avatar, but they need to portray it better, not in a controversial way.The scenes and instances they use should not be out of place and unnatural.
It has to have touch of reality, so that was can enjoy and more than doubting her acts.
I am just asking to portray Khusi's acts well roundly and not limit her to just sacrifices like Sadhna did.

Yeh, I mean to blame Sdahna for Ragini's low confidence is like...I dont know what to say. If at all, I can say anything is what you said, she only lived to bring in confidence in Ragini. When Kaushi with her continuous efforts was trying to make Ragini fair, Sdahna tried to gain confidence in Ragini by constantly saying that she is no less than anyone...in the first episode video, the same is said.She always gave credit to Ragini, which shows her attempt to build Ragini's confidence. I think Khushi will be portrayed as a mature child, Cts will do good with her character sketch.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: reguser

Areee yaaar.... where were you? Forum was spiceless without you.....
Good to see u back...

thanku purehearts and reguser.....i am not back yet.....still on vacation......btw....did i miss any fights😆.....that would be a shame......
.are ragini and anmol a couple yet......i mean,.in the true sense or are they still living as husband and wife but not acting on it😉......are there any fights about khushi getting more importance than tamana😆.....ehehehe.....anyways......i will be back soon......maybe i will start something then😆
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: unhappyviewer

thanku purehearts and reguser.....i am not back yet.....still on vacation......btw....did i miss any fights😆.....that would be a shame......

.are ragini and anmol a couple yet......i mean,.in the true sense or are they still living as husband and wife but not acting on it😉......are there any fights about khushi getting more importance than tamana😆.....ehehehe.....anyways......i will be back soon......maybe i will start something then😆


u need to come back to the forum and make everyone happy...😊
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111


u need to come back to the forum and make everyone happy...😊


😆 we miss your tickles, and candid posts so much!!!

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Purehearts


😆 we miss your tickles, and candid posts , so much!!!


I second that...
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: reguser

Well, I feel topic like selflessness is very subjective. There is nothing right or wrong as it depends on our own interpretation. I am into research filed (ofcourse, I am not doing research on selflessness though 😉) and I have seen there are many theories (psychological, social-science etc.) which contradict each other. Each person who contradicts gives his/her valid reasons for it. These are not like pure science subjects like Maths, Physics, Chemistry where chances of contradiction are less. Because, there it is more of quantitative studies and hence numbers prove whether things are right or wrong. Just like Einstein's E=MC2.😃

Similarly, I enjoy reading some of the posts in this forum. Though, I enjoy other serials much better these days than Bidai, I like to come to this forum mainly because of some matured discussions taking place here. Well, I am not telling there won't be any matured discussions in other forums. But, I am not aware of it much. Here, mainly I like to read Bani's posts as I feel they contain matured analysis of situations/characters, Vishmewell's posts because they crack me up many times, Smitha/Smita, Anu, Yanks, Laxmi (queen of emoticons), Appu (Dew-drop pearl), purhearts, unhappy (dont know where she is these days), chocolover, Suchitra and many more.. I don't agree with everyone each time and at the same time I don't expect others to agree with me. Because as I have mentioned in the first para, these things are very subjective. Even if a proper study with huge number of data analysis (N=1000+) is done on such matters, there still can be another angle to see things. So instead of trying to prove others wrong, it is better if we discuss why we have a different opinion.

In this topic also, I am sure people who appreciated Khushi's acts definitely didn't support any kind of self-destructive nature. First of all, I don't think Khushi has done any self-destructiveness in offering a role to Tammy. It is a small sacrifice/token of love for her sister. Well, even I don't like this nature of such a small child because of the past track of Bidai. I just don't want her to suffer like Sadhna. That's it. If the show has just started (without any past history), then I would have called Khush's sacrifice to her sister as a small token of love for her sister. As I myself have seen such things in my family, I don't think something unusual in this.

Having said this, I would definitely love to see Ragini/Anmol (mainly Ragini here) teaching the kids to take the right paths. Khushi needs to be taught not to support Tammy in each and every phase of life (as this may make Tammy too much dependent on others, which is not good) and Tammy to accept things as it comes in life (without expecting to win/get things each time). That would be a major challenge for Ragini. Actually, Ragini is matured enough to see the big picture. She should stop Khushi (just like how she told to herself in today's episode) for the sake of Khushi and Tammy both. If Khushi supports Tammy thoughout like this, its a problem for not only Khushi but for Tammy also. However, she has done right in acknowledging Khushi's love for Tammy. That is no doubt, very much appreciable (both Khushi's love and Ragini's acknowledgment)

So, just like how selflessness has many dimensions, its interpretation also has many dimensions. No one is supporting self-destructiveness here. Actually, selflessness and self-destructive nature are different (atleast in case of Khushi).

Phew, I think I have written a big essay. Hope u guys don't get bored (if you read) reading this. 😃



What is matured discussion yaar??? tho nahi? <<-------- I like something like this..





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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: vishmewell



What is matured discussion yaar??? tho nahi? <<-------- I like something like this..






But I dont drink.....😭 So how can I have with you? 😃

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