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Posted: 15 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: --Anu--



Dark, light, yellow, pink or green or whatever, like I said before I didn't find anything wrong in their phone conversation. Its a TV show and its up-to the viewers how they interpret any scene as everyone has their own POV. IMHO, they were just remembering their Anmol-Anamika days. Sadhana was her sister not husband or lover that she can't have a good time with her own husband months after her death. As far as marrying Anmol, we don't know when/how it happened.
What defines a character depth, hiding stuff from your loved ones, making un-necessary/illogical sacrifices, not standing up for yourself etc etc. As for remaining quiet to whatever Vasu does, well that's SanGini's forte. I can understand to some extent why Ragini doesnt stand up for Anmol as Vasu knows how to use this to her advantage. Vasu has been making her feel guilty for past 6 years and Ragini is confused as she feels its betraying Ranveer's memories.
There is nothing more left to discuss or add here. This is just my POV, you may disagree with me.

By saying those stuff and going indirect against Sadhna ... I really find that displeasing and distasteful. Be straight next time.

You have your own set of values ... I remember once you were against Mamaji for slapping Alekh because a "husband-wife' relationship is more than a dad-daughter ... and now about Sadhna. Its true, that is your POV, and POVs are constructed through the values that we have and find around us - one of the primary reasons why its so diverse. I respect urs ... but just my POV didnt get constructed in a similar way.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Moderator's Note:
Hi Friends,
Sinse I got few reports about this post..I need to make certain things clear to everyone

    First of all as long as noone is bashing the actor here..we have every right to constructively criticise the characters and their actions in the show..but again make sure we r not using any offensive or abusive terms here while criticising certain actions of a particular character.. Secondly no personal attacks should b made on any member..if u don't agree with someone's POV,u hv every right to place your own POV but NOT in a attacking tone..try to hv a healthy debate and NOT a nasty fight like school kids Thirdly In case we want to criticise the CVs of the show for not executing certain scenes in a matured way..thats allowed..but at the same time make sure we r not bashing the CVs here by using any sort of offensive words..and try not to use words like "hate" or "crap" in your sentence as they sometimes look like bashing terms in some context of the sentence.. Fourthly if someone is making a sarcastic taunt on any member..it will come under personal attack and u may end up getting a official warning here..same goes for bashing of actor/CVs..again I repeat ..do constructive criticism but NOT bashing
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I hope I hv explained to all in detail what u can post and what u cannot post...so plss try to follow this and then automatically we will hv peace here...Now if someone is still not following it..then I will b issuing official warnings to individual members and if needed even WLs will b raised😊


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And whats with this note Jyoti? ... Who bashed whom and where? ... I wanna know ... could you explain further ??
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Posted: 15 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

By saying those stuff and going indirect against Sadhna ... I really find that displeasing and distasteful. Be straight next time.


You have your own set of values ... I remember once you were against Mamaji for slapping Alekh because a "husband-wife' relationship is more than a dad-daughter ... and now about Sadhna. Its true, that is your POV, and POVs are constructed through the values that we have and find around us - one of the primary reasons why its so diverse. I respect urs ... but just my POV didnt get constructed in a similar way.



First of all its not just Sadhana but most of the TV heroines are like that. Lets not drag any names here.
There is no need to bring my set of values into a TV show discussion as this comes under a personal attack. Don't twist the words to change the meaning of what I said in another post. It was totally in a different context and who is suffering the most after Sadhana's death...Alekh or Mamaji.
No more discussion on this topic.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

Hello everybody!!!!


Well ... saw today's episode and MUST SAY ... what a rambling episode this was!

First of all ... Ragini married Anmol JUST AFTER or the SAME YEAR Sadhna died (as its been six years of their marriage right? ... and Khushi/Tammy are 7 years of age!)...

Here, Ranvir is all cool with Anmol ... Ragini and Ranvir are romancing in the phone ... teasing each other in the most ... straaaange of ways ... that was really silly ... trying to involve ones wife with a person he met a few seconds ago ... dunno if its his way of having fun ~ and Ragini was upto the task aswell ...

Eeri way to have fun among couples (this one) I feel ... beyond that, how come Ragini the sister get all those cool wits and naughty romance working inside her while Khushi and Tamanna's challenge lay fresh infront of her, with Sadhna's death fresh as ever ... Alekh mad ... her complexities unresolved....uff...

Ranvir found Ragini's Anmol ... oh well ... even if I spare that one - even beyond that the way Mr. Ranvir was trying to FIX sought of ... their ... umm ... meeting ... was quite chilly🤢. I know my sister was totally horrified (and she lived most of her life back in Sweden).

When the whole house is burning from the great loss of Sadhna ... a man like Ranvir who would rush to grab anyone being even slightly too-smart with his families women ... with the brother going looney ... its all too hazy and abnormal to me.

I found today's episode a hurried attempt to bring logic in the most illogical way for removing Ranvir completely out of the picture! ... And in the process ... rather tarnishing Ragini's character, along with Ranvir's character.

Unpleasant ... I mean ... the whole thing is just so vague and shows the sign of desperate attempts ... attempts which are ultimately disfiguring the show's two important characters ... and the entire concept of the show's chastity/purity/serenity.

Sorry to say ... this time its true... CT bhais lost it... lol 🤪

Bold pink- that is exactly how I felt. This entire saga of why and how Ragi married Anmol and why it is justified didn't convince me at all the way CTs tried to show us. It could have been much better if they really have thought it out logically. I only felt like this was nothing but a desperate attempt or a miserably failed attempt to say the least.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

And whats with this note Jyoti? ... Who bashed whom and where? ... I wanna know ... could you explain further ??

IT when a note is given in a thread..its not necessary that it was intended at you or a particular member...if we issue warning for a particular member we quote a particular comment and then issue the warning or send warning pm to the member..but this note was given in general because I saw few instigating comments in this thread...the note was for all and not any speicific member...if after this members still break certain rules ..only then I m issuing individual warnings..I hope its clear now..rest you can also check your PM..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: --Anu--



First of all its not just Sadhana but most of the TV heroines are like that. Lets not drag any names here.
There is no need to bring my set of values into a TV show discussion as this comes under a personal attack. Don't twist the words to change the meaning of what I said in another post. It was totally in a different context and who is suffering the most after Sadhana's death...Alekh or Mamaji.
No more discussion on this topic.

Why should I attack here? ... my words are clear. I just said why POVs end up diverse ... and its a scientific reason.

For me ... Sadhna is beyond comparisons with other TV actresses and characters. Sadhna is beyond those in whom there can be found a THOUGHT of blemish. Sadhna is pure ... she is divine ... she is the essence of life ... the truth of justice ... the warmth of care ... the light of love ... the sense of security ... the blessing from up above.

You may feel differently ... but then thats your POV ... which I have mentioned - I respect (i.e. your freedom to practice and have it ... as long as no one is hurt ... )! Lets not think things which are not to be thought 👍🏼.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: Veritas

You know until IT ji deciphered the scene..I didn't even see anything untoward in it..and how do we know how long Anmol and Ranvir have been friends..May be they became friends during early days of Ragi's pregnancy when she wasn't showing the bump and Sadhna was alive .....
And its not as if Ragini or Ranvir knew what was going to happen..Its only after something happens that we look back on events and reinterpret them...
In this case we already know what had happened and are looking at the scene with foreknowledge...

And rememberCTs showed FB romantic scenes between Saalekh during the rift and a lot of us were left wondering when did thaaat happen...since we had only seen Alekh treating Sadi like crap after the miraculous cure....
treat this in the same light😉

@Red: Think before you use those tricky little words Veritas. Thats an accusation... simply.

@ Blue: Today's episode CONFIRMS my opening thread and strengthens it. Atleast about the fact that it was AFTER SADHNA'S DEATH ... and just a few days of friendship between Ranvir and Anmol ... and Mr. Ranvir just gives away his wife to this man? ... How much does he actually know him? ... AND HOW COULD HE?? ... His dad was looking after the family when Alekh was looney and he was away in the US.

Its ILLOGICAL ... simply.

@Green: After today's episode? ... No chance.


Today's episode just further strengthened my perplexities ... I am just left amazed. These people ... just months within the death of a person they claimed to have taken their souls away ... and the looniness of a brother who just got well (which multiplies pain a thousand times) ... start going naugthy and moreover in this fashion.

Even if I spare him the wish to get his wife married with someone else. Atleast he could go for someone else ... he knew better. Its like "you gave me the land ... I give you my wife for the rest of her life ... say cheeeese =)" ... Atleast he could leave it to Ragini's wish. So many options ... Ragini is not an orphan, neither was Inder inapt or Vasu incapable. Pratham was growing up, he could handle. Not to mention Tamanna and Khushi would not always remain babies.

Millions of ways I can look into ... millions of wrong I can point ... but whats the use. Its all so evident for anyone to see. Its just not done ... and I feel quite bad with this destruction of Ranvir's image myself for you guyz info ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

Why should I attack here? ... my words are clear. I just said why POVs end up diverse ... and its a scientific reason.


For me ... Sadhna is beyond comparisons with other TV actresses and characters. Sadhna is beyond those in whom there can be found a THOUGHT of blemish. Sadhna is pure ... she is divine ... she is the essence of life ... the truth of justice ... the warmth of care ... the light of love ... the sense of security ... the blessing from up above.

You may feel differently ... but then thats your POV ... which I have mentioned - I respect (i.e. your freedom to practice and have it ... as long as no one is hurt ... )! Lets not think things which are not to be thought 👍🏼.



Are you kidding me ? You are finding my straightforward comments distasteful and and displeasing....may I ask why ? Why is it so difficult to post anything in this section and have a mature discussion...what's up with this... no one is hurt ?? I mean your comments are more hurtful as you are pointing a finger at my values where as I am giving a general statement on character depth.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Anu:

I find that distasteful and displeasing. I find it like that!!! .. Did I say you are overall like that? ... I'm not putting that on a poll am I? ... Its how I felt ... simple.

Mature discussion does not always occur when people keep mum and not speak their own POVs out. You have your POV and that particular one was not with my taste and did not please me - simple. I've agreed to you at times ... I found them pleasing and up-to-my-taste (not that it matters surely) ... and this time I didnt. The maturity lays in just taking it sportingly.

Where did I point fingers on your values? ... Why are you trying to think of it that way. "Quote" me ... where???? ... and the thing where I said that - RE-READ it ... its not about you ... I've explained and reknowned scientific way on how we develop our perceptions ... and this is the same for everyone ... even for twins.

POVs are definately constructed through our own understanding and way of seeing things ... which are mostly due to our own set of values, principles and cultural effect. How we grow up and all... and its nothing attacking or of that category. Its simple truth ... and this is just as much for me as it is for you. Whats wrong in it?

I just put it there to say why and how we end up with diverse opinions and yet feel so strongly about our own. Sometimes even resist other inclinations ... these have a phsychological reason behind it.

Lets not interpret things in the wrong ways.
Edited by Ice-Thinker - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

@Anu:


I find that distasteful and displeasing. I find it like that!!! .. Did I say you are overall like that? ... I'm not putting that on a poll am I? ... Its how I felt ... simple.

Mature discussion does not always occur when people keep mum and not speak their own POVs out. You have your POV and that particular one was not with my taste and did not please me - simple. I've agreed to you at times ... I found them pleasing and up-to-my-taste (not that it matters surely) ... and this time I didnt. The maturity lays in just taking it sportingly.

Where did I point fingers on your values? ... Why are you trying to think of it that way. "Quote" me ... where???? ... and the thing where I said that - RE-READ it ... its not about you ... I've explained and reknowned scientific way on how we develop our perceptions ... and this is the same for everyone ... even for twins.

POVs are definately constructed through our own understanding and way of seeing things ... which are mostly due to our own set of values, principles and cultural effect. How we grow up and all... and its nothing attacking or of that category. Its simple truth ... and this is just as much for me as it is for you. Whats wrong in it?

I just put it there to say why and how we end up with diverse opinions and yet feel so strongly about our own. Sometimes even resist other inclinations ... these have a phsychological reason behind it.

Lets not interpret things in the wrong ways.



I think your interpretation and choice of words for RagVir scene was quite distasteful and displeasing than my simple comments. Anyways lets just leave it here.
Edited by --Anu-- - 15 years ago

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