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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Here's the thing. Any opinion about this.. SHOULD be the woman's choice. If she wants to take care of the household then that's her decision. But here, Sagini wanted to contribute financially, which should also be their choice. Their husbands should not limit them in any way as it should be completely Sagini's choice. They are educated and capable women.. so they can contribute equally to their household.

Also... about women having lots on plate... they wouldn't if their husbands helped out in the house... times have changed and the foursome should be progressively shown- like they were when they were setting up the house. All can work and share the household tasks.

The main debate is though... why are the men controlling their wives? Ranvir/Alekh were always shown to be progressive until today.



Exactly , about having lot on their plate wouldn;t be the case if the husbands helped out and that is why I stated why bother lol

Well.. about control what exactly does progressive mean?
some sense of authority does exists between the man and woman of the household and to deny that would be naivety.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anu--

There can be a no. of reasons why Alekh wasnt particularly thrilled about this idea. He has seen how much Sadhana had to go through when she was working at Mallika's office. Alekh also had to face so many problems due to Vasu when he was working at the construction site. I think the scene was poorly executed and dialogues were not up-to the mark. It was done only to let Anand offer some help in finding jobs for the girls and proceed with the track.

I agree that that was the main purpose of the scene, but the CT/ director needs to take care about what they show and what the actors end up saying because we are not idiotic people who'll take every ounce of stupidity they throw at us. The execution was pathetic, the dialogues even worse, and it was insulting to women, or at least to me it was.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: suchitra_1



Actually its very much the same here,

The men here as well , are very much similar to men everywhere. The Beta husband is very very less in minority. The ones who are fine with living off their wife's earnings.

It was my art professor who said to us, that we women ( she is a double phd) have to hold a career, take care of the house and be a super mom and if one of our work is deficient then we get blamed. Meaning if the kids turn out to be bad then the mother is blamed. If she cannot hold her career then she is blamed of being not that efficient and if she cannot take care of the household then she is blamed of not balancing everything properly.

In proper healthy marriage there needs to be understanding. I mean there is seriously NOTHING WRONG in taking care of the house. Women today think its degrading etc. aurat ko chula chowki tak hi rakhna chahiye ...

This mentality was so much taunted , that today it has become something of a degrading nature. That is not true.. and should not be encouraged as such.

It is all about prioritizing ....

IF you think you will get your fair share of sanity , go ahead and work...

But there are different ways a woman can explore her abilities. I know soo many work at home moms.
They hold businesses from home and take care of the household, raise children and earn the dough as well.
They are active parents, most of the business holding women are homeschooling parents.

( homeschooling is where the parent opts to teach their children at home rather than send their kids to school for formal education, millions of kids in US are homeschooled)

So this trend needs to be seen in India yet, that women can do things from home + make some money(if they wish to) and takecare of their children (raising them) in a good manner.



actually it all depends on how well one can manage. We had a family friend, she was a bank mamager, as soon as she saw her growing daughter was feeling lonely, she just left the job. She said that since she does not have financial crunch, her priority is to look after her daughter and then she can work parttime...It all depends on the situation..One needs to be flexible to adopt to any situation...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: teddysweety



Here's the thing. Any opinion about this.. SHOULD be the woman's choice. If she wants to take care of the household then that's her decision. But here, Sagini wanted to contribute financially, which should also be their choice. Their husbands should not limit them in any way as it should be completely Sagini's choice. They are educated and capable women.. so they can contribute equally to their household.

Also... about women having lots on plate... they wouldn't if their husbands helped out in the house... times have changed and the foursome should be progressively shown- like they were when they were setting up the house. All can work and share the household tasks.

The main debate is though... why are the men controlling their wives? Ranvir/Alekh were always shown to be progressive until today.



exactly....wasnt this whole foursome track to show their bonding with each other? It wud be very sweet if we cud see alekh/ranvir helping their sweethearts sometimes. But it looks more like the brothers are on one side & the sisters r on another?😕
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: _-sHoNaa-_

Some ppl dnt like to work, i respect that. Like when the 4some were at rajwansh house, sagini didnt really need to work so they didnt. But now, their situation is completely different. They need food for 4 ppl everyday, plus all the other expenses AND the rent, etc. I dnt know if alekh & ranvir's salary r enough. But my question is if sagini even want to work, then why embroidery? like really they have a POWER they can use called education & their talent. They are gonna get more money & learn to be independent as well. And there are women who work + go home & do all the household work as well. Sagini are very active ppl ( i think), they shud be able to use the best of their ability. <div></div>



I agree with most here that they should do what they like if they are going to do part time. I mean when Alekh said that they have loads on their hand in the first place (taking care of household i.e. their husbands) that means what ever money they are going to bring is not going to be much respected.

I mean even if they do work, that money will not get the same attention/respect as Alekh's and/or Ranvir's salary would.

Its like i remember one of my relatives telling his wife when she opted to work , that your money covers the clothing that you buy.

Its the sad reality, BIG time EGO its in the nature of Men.

that is why , if Ragini were to pursue her dancing as others suggested its better for her and more respectable as she is doing something she likes.

Where as Sadhana could teach as others suggested as that is in her nature (soft nurturing) something to be done at leisure rather than embroidery which is totally out of their theme and kind of shows desperate need type behavior.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#36
also, I dont like Sadhna and Ragini's personalities, like they dont have any say...they dont need to be aggressive, but it seems there is no personality...Vasu is doing wrong after wrong, they cannot srgue or say bad stuff about Vasu as she is the mother-in-law but they cannot justify Vasu;s wrong actions...I think they should keep quiet and not speak supporting Vasu...though they can try their efforts to unite the family...

atleas Sadhna should have said today that Vasu was definitely wrong, but they all need to bring her back to the right path...that should be the attitude and just not justifying every wrong action of Vasu...

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Posted: 15 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: suchitra_1

looks like CTs are running out of Ideas.

Anyways.. I am not against women working outside. As I have said many times their priority is Home and Children as they are the nurturers and its in their nature to raise the nation of tomorrow.

But, one thing is disspointing is that,
if Sadhana and Ragini do choose to work then, why should they also take care of the household?

I mean , its better if Saagini sit at home and relax and enjoy their bit of lives than doing both outside work + household. Cause naturally it does seem that Alekh (not sure about Ranvir) does nto want to help out at the house hold chores.

So I say Why bother? Fine they think they are the men then let them deal with money and financial issues and hte other headaches. Its simply terrible that today women,

just to prove themselves they have to

Hold a Job, Hold a career, Be a super mom and then also clean, cook, take care of household.

and men are doing what they did 100 years ago , 1000 years ago...


Earn , come home and become couch potatoes (amm there are exceptions)

Just my POV.

Every woman should be educated, Not to work but to become more open minded and knowledagble so she can pass on the tradition to her offsprings and become worthwhile in her own eyes and the eyes of society (which includes her kids/husband etc)

It does not necessarily mean that , just cause she is educated she HAS to work

I personally say, hey if your husband is ready to take care of the household ( ALONG WIHT YOU) then go and work . IF not DON"T BOTHER let them be the man of the house and take all the headache. We women have enough on our plates in the first place! sheesh

@Bold - Well said 👏
You are right in a way that if men dont support at home, then better not to bother about working outside as it causes too much stress to handle work, house, kids and husband. But, the problem lies with the needs and wants of a woman. What if a woman is the only daughter to her parents? Then there comes the need to support her parents. I am sure, most women can not ask her husbdand to help her parents (though many husbands dont mind these days). And the second one is about a woman's wants. If a woman is very interested in doing/learning something outside the house, then? I am sure, she will never sit @ home just because husband doesnt support at home.
It is a big responsibility to most women (mainly Indian women) these days. Most of us want to become a great mother, great wife, great daughter, and a great self by creating our own identity. And becoming great in all the fields is not that easy.
Many serials these days show an ideal woman is an ideal daughter-in-law. I agree, our culture gives importance to this. But this is not the only thing which is important. For example, even in yeh rishta, Akshara has become the greatest daughter in law. She is proving it daily. But the question once arised about her education is no where seen in the serial. I think they must have forgotten that completely.
Movies and serials inspire many people (if not all). It would be nice if they show how things change with time.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: suchitra_1



Exactly , about having lot on their plate wouldn;t be the case if the husbands helped out and that is why I stated why bother lol

Well.. about control what exactly does progressive mean?
some sense of authority does exists between the man and woman of the household and to deny that would be naivety.



I don't know if that's naivety or if ppl's mentality needs to be changed. Both a husband and wife have his/her own area of expertise and that's the area where one has more authority over the other. In big decisions.. i believe this to be one... a healthy discussion and a rational conclusion should be made instead of one person making the decision. In this case... Alekh/Ranvir made the decision that they could only work part time. Now they shouldn't have said this. Their input should be... sure but make sure it's a safe and respectable work place. Also that they support them in their decision.

When I talk about progressive... I meant that Ranvir mostly (as Alekh just became "normal") encouraged his wife to pursue her dreams and even opened up a dancing school for her. Also, seeing his mom active (at times though) at the rajvanch company... he seemed to be used to women in the workplace. Now suddenly I don't know why it would be a big deal to the men if their wives wish to contribute.

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Posted: 15 years ago
#39
I can bet sagini can get same salary as alekh...dnt know about ranvir as he's the most educated among the 4 AND with a education from US, he shud be getting the highest salary.

So now we come to a conclusion that these set of brothers r same as other men? So i see another set of men with a BIG ego problem😆 Oh God, when will i ever find a man without ego?😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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these girls desperately need to go outside and work, as that will build their personalities.

Not only for money to support the household, if one earns a little bit, its good...suppose I want to buy a nail polish, I need to ask my husband, can you please give me some money?

In my family, my mother always had said that educate and take care of the girls more, because we dont know what sort of situation they will land up into, post marriage...

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