Racism and its Ugly Shade, Hidden vs. Apparent - Page 3

Originally posted by: suchitra_1

Thanks Ashrozia...
I have many Paki friends, and this is something I see in Paki lands as well

One of my friends told me about these kids

8-9 years old the 8 year old kid does more akad cause she is 'fairer' 'cuter' and their parents actually encourage her behavior by taking her nakhra cause she is youngest one and fairest. The relatives also address those kids as savli vs. gori (saaf rang hai uska)

I mean 8-9 year olds poor kids look at what they are being taught.

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@ ShoNaa , I completely agree... When I had my son GOSH the environment was TOTALLY different. Every one was soo happy. Thank God my husband is very very very normal and nice. He dosen't differentiate but the society , dosen't matter where you are still effects.

I remember when i had my first child, a girl , I got calls from older women, they were actually saying to me 'its ok, they are a gift from GOD don't worry, don't feel bad'

After some exhausting labor I was not thinking straight totally hazed up I was confused at what she was saying and It took me quite a while to figure it out. I was totally shocked and told my husband he was equally shocked and said , she is old and this is what she knows and thus she has reacted in such a way.

So you are right, the women think and say such things because this is what they have seen !

Originally posted by: Ashrozia

I think the world is changing--I think most part of the world has changed coz I can really see 'Tanned' models make their way through,black people(I am not being a racist here,just differentiating--Couldn't think of another way to do that.)making their way into beauty contests like Ms.World,Ms.Universe etc!!
India too is changing like I mentioned previously.Tanned models are ruling here too!(Deepika,Priyanka,Bips etc)
It's better to look at the positives--Some people will never change,that's a different thing and those people can never progress!
But majority will change in times to come--Most of the world has,it's some part of the world(Asia,mainly)which has to!
That will happen too-Provided,2012 isn't the end of the world,LOL!😆

Originally posted by: Ashrozia

I think the world is changing--I think most part of the world has changed coz I can really see 'Tanned' models make their way through,black people(I am not being a racist here,just differentiating--Couldn't think of another way to do that.)making their way into beauty contests like Ms.World,Ms.Universe etc!!
India too is changing like I mentioned previously.Tanned models are ruling here too!(Deepika,Priyanka,Bips etc)
It's better to look at the positives--Some people will never change,that's a different thing and those people can never progress!
But majority will change in times to come--Most of the world has,it's some part of the world(Asia,mainly)which has to!
That will happen too-Provided,2012 isn't the end of the world,LOL!😆

Originally posted by: suchitra_1

Thanks Ashrozia...
I have many Paki friends, and this is something I see in Paki lands as well

One of my friends told me about these kids

8-9 years old the 8 year old kid does more akad cause she is 'fairer' 'cuter' and their parents actually encourage her behavior by taking her nakhra cause she is youngest one and fairest. The relatives also address those kids as savli vs. gori (saaf rang hai uska)

I mean 8-9 year olds poor kids look at what they are being taught.

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@ ShoNaa , I completely agree... When I had my son GOSH the environment was TOTALLY different. Every one was soo happy. Thank God my husband is very very very normal and nice. He dosen't differentiate but the society , dosen't matter where you are still effects.

I remember when i had my first child, a girl , I got calls from older women, they were actually saying to me 'its ok, they are a gift from GOD don't worry, don't feel bad'

After some exhausting labor I was not thinking straight totally hazed up I was confused at what she was saying and It took me quite a while to figure it out. I was totally shocked and told my husband he was equally shocked and said , she is old and this is what she knows and thus she has reacted in such a way.

So you are right, the women think and say such things because this is what they have seen !

Originally posted by: Ashrozia

Sad but true..There is no 'Ranvir' in the real world-He is fictional and will always remain as one!
There maybe one or two who say that Beauty doesn't matter and really mean it but that's just a minority as in minoooorrrrrriiiiiittttttttttyyyyyyyy!!(In India!!)

Originally posted by: suchitra_1

What is SC and ST?

Sorry... I am assumings its to do with Caste?

I remember Forward caste and BC. But I am unaware of these terms

scheduled caste and scheduled tribes.

do you see movie swades? it shows about educational problems n untouchables.

Originally posted by: _-sHoNaa-_

priyanka? i love priyanka but dear she herself is endorsing fairness creams😆
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Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

If love is blind ... color shouldn't matter!

But then for the general masses ... what can be said? ... Sometimes color becomes a scale to measure beauty!

Due to traditional, historical and many other different factual and debatable factors the POV of some of us became like this (i.e. prefering the light/fair complexion).

White being the traditional symbol of purity and clarity, had to have an impact in the phsyche of people.

Not to mention how the LIGHT color effects the mind and gains people's attention.

The reason some MOMS are after a fair skinned girl may be because they feel that it would be either because of ignorance (because color cannot and should not be a measuring tool, as then everything becomes so unfair) or because of their traditional view of its aesthetic value.

We know that the GORA RANG was popular even before the British arrived in India. We know these through the early and medieval books and records (stories, history ... the description of fairies and beautiful men/womenetc), and thus the blame cannot be thrown on the Brits either.

Although I wont go as far as saying that its all a part of RACISM ... but I certainly feel that looking deeper than the skin would be more helpful for parents who decide the most suitable girl for their son or the most suitable boy for their daughters.

There are dark boys who oftenremain upset as they feel being discriminated directly or indirectly against their fairer brothers (remember the "Hi Handsome HI HANDSOME" adv? for Fair & Handsome cream). This concept of BLACK AND WHITE is pedominent among women ALOT more then in men.

As some people already mentioned how 'VASU' was the craziest after color! Men might PREFER the white spouse, but they can be happy with a darker spouse too. While for women, they would rather prefer someone fairer than darker (e.g. both times Ragini prefered men with a fairer complexion ... whether these were coincidents is a debatable issue ... and in my POV - all selections are made through weighting different dimentions and attributes of the future partner).

However, Indians do give a higher preference to INDIAN fair skinners. Otherwise Europeans would be the most cherished dream of every INDIAN SAAS. And I dont think it is (although the MILs are actually more easy and welcoming to western DIL or SIL these days ... which is ofcourse good. But I dont think that COLOR has a role to play here).

It all ends up in personal choices ... the only thing to be removed should be IGNORANCE ... otherwise everything else seem just fine.

Heart can be beautiful for any skin color (and vice versa) ... and love ofcourse has no color!

:)

well said.😊