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Posted: 15 years ago
good good, vishmewell, look at what you have done my friend (though, you probably didn't anticipate this kind of response)... 35 pages of discussion, and STILL going strong...!!!! 😲😲😕
friends, i guess, some of us feel sadi had no excuse, no justification to make conditions for her marriage and divorce, while some us feel her actions were justified. then there are some who feel post-mental-alekh's actions were justified, and some who are completely disgusted by his behavior...please, now can we just LEAVE IT AT THAT...????
i know I have also taken part in this discussion, and argued/debated over this, but this is just going on and on and on and on now.....i am not saying we shouldn't discuss, NOR that anyone has bashed any other members here, we all have kept it at least fairly respectful when it comes to others' opinion; so the only reason why i now desperately ask all to just move on now is cause its getting quite repetitive. like i said, some are justifying sadi's actions, some don't and some are justfying alu's actions, some don't; and now PLEASE, let's just leave the discussion at that, and move on...

friends, let's all now rejoice at the fact that happy times are indeed coming soon in bidaai, with especially the sagini reunion. soon after, all will be back to normal too. so please, now let's all bidaai fans reunite too and be happy about the recent happiness in bidaai...😊😊❤️
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: pricey28

good good, vishmewell, look at what you have done my friend (though, you probably didn't anticipate this kind of response)... 35 pages of discussion, and STILL going strong...!!!! 😲😲😕
friends, i guess, some of us feel sadi had no excuse, no justification to make conditions for her marriage and divorce, while some us feel her actions were justified. then there are some who feel post-mental-alekh's actions were justified, and some who are completely disgusted by his behavior...please, now can we just LEAVE IT AT THAT...????
i know I have also taken part in this discussion, and argued/debated over this, but this is just going on and on and on and on now.....i am not saying we shouldn't discuss, NOR that anyone has bashed any other members here, we all have kept it at least fairly respectful when it comes to others' opinion; so the only reason why i now desperately ask all to just move on now is cause its getting quite repetitive. like i said, some are justifying sadi's actions, some don't and some are justfying alu's actions, some don't; and now PLEASE, let's just leave the discussion at that, and move on...

friends, let's all now rejoice at the fact that happy times are indeed coming soon in bidaai, with especially the sagini reunion. soon after, all will be back to normal too. so please, now let's all bidaai fans reunite too and be happy about the recent happiness in bidaai...😊😊❤️



Hey pricey, yeah, I did not expect it... I thought in spite of all these discussions, we are still ek hi hath ke alag alag ungliyan hai...😊😛😉😳 sab milkar peheliya bhujaara he hai... can't wait for this track to unveil so many things...
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Posted: 15 years ago
@vish

If I say, Sadhna signed the divorce paper because she had blind faith in Alekh's love and that Alekh after seeing the signature will have more enthusiasm to bring his wife back, does that make any sense to you....

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

@vish

If I say, Sadhna signed the divorce paper because she had blind faith in Alekh's love and that Alekh after seeing the signature will have more enthusiasm to bring his wife back, does that make any sense to you....




Bani, great question. I absolutely love it. With this question you have twisted my arm to share the analysis I was not willing to share 😕 I have to now answer with total honesty.

@ red - Yes, I would say she did have blind faith in Aalekh's love. One can only have that kind of faith when the other person also gives strong indications verbally or thru action. And she judged him very correctly.

She saw the pyaar bhara chahat in Aalekh's eyes, his bartaaw, checking her out top to bottom as if to compliment her. If you remember a scene at the site where they showed the mystery guy? Sadhana hid behind Mallika when Aalekh was checking her out and Aalekh gives a smirk as if only to indicate Dekha mai tera looks appreciate kar raha hu... You do have my attention kind of message was given in a subtle way. The reason Sadhana hid behind Mallika was not due to dislike, or not because she did not approve him checking her out, but letting Aalekh know, you are making me conscience.
She has the intellect to judge people by their body language. What people convey thru body language is what that person is actually thinking. what they say might be contradicting. eg. Sadhana was the only one who did not believe in Sonia from the word go.

@ green - Here my answer is No. Enthusiasm tho khushi ke mauke par hothe hai. This is a bad news. Zyaadaatar log even in the best of normal conditions, go into shock at an unexpected event. Hence, the display of irrational behavior, extreme anger (waise Aalekh temper tantrums ki badshah hai hi), devastation leading to frenzy (the way he drove the car and got into an accident. that was intentional. Appears like either he couldn't care to live anymore OR he wants to injure himself so bad that Sadhana MAY come back for him). While the frenzy fades away soon, irrational behavior and anger continues for a while. That's the time for the dust to settle down.

@ purple - Signing the paper was like whipping him on his back. Being the viewers or the third party, it may make sense to some. But the affected person is the one who is on reactive mode. So I would expect outburt of anger. So all the actions followed after that was irrational, insensitive, senseless behavior on part of Aalekh was due to rejection by the woman he is madly in love with. although we could argue and prove right that he was legally set free, the ball is in his court. He sent a wrong message to Sadhana he is moving on.

With all this said, the thing I was refraining from saying is, the CT beautifully orchestrated it only to treat the love birds to a rude awakening. Mallika is mere instrument to wake-up Sadhana from her Babul ki Aangan. Sadhana tanse Bidaai hogayi, lekin manse abhi bhi babul ki ghar mein hi hai. She is a dutiful wife with total attachment with Mayka. That will not work in a marriage. I think the CT wants to make Sadhana realize how everyone will move on with their lives even after her sacrifices and woh apne aapko akele paayegi with the memories of Aalekh and the realization to re-evaluate her life. Kya khoya, Kya paaya, aur kaha galathi hui. She already knows what she did... but will realize later it's not worth it.

And Aalekh too, will have a rude awakening that his temper tantrums, not being expressive, to trust and stand up for his wife which everyone expressed.

The biggest Lesson CT will show in future tracks is Salekh cannot chose one or the other relationships in any given situation, but maintain good balance. They created a feeling in viewers that Sadhana character is the personification and embodiment of perfection. Now they will focus on showing anything extreme is bad. Aur viewers ko ek jhatka diya (to some of us). And some are still in denial.

The moral of the story: The truth is nobody with a physical body can be perfect. But you realize your own flaws, accept them gracefully and mend them (seek conciliation) and move on. Salekh has a long way to go before they can literally become SALEKH! 😊
Edited by vishmewell - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
@vish,

lovely analysis....yes, its time that Salekh become Salekh in the truest sense... creatives are really sketching it right...totally meaningful... actually, you know people like you and your writeups make me addicted to this forum, how brilliant analysis some of you make....great.it shows how talented and well educated you are...




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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: vishmewell



Sach mein...😭😭😭😭 I have been trying to make people see the flaw in the characterization

Chalo laundry ka kissa tho khatam hua...😆😆😆😆 Aalekh keliye nahi shuru karange kya laundry ka kissa???

Well Vish ... you may feel like that... but its not neccessary that everyone will accept your POV... people can find your POV full of flaws aswell...

To those who have seen the SUN ... you cannot prove that a tiny bulb is a SUN even if you show it in the most dense of night where the darkness confuses people. Some people have VERY STRONG MINDS ...

As for Sadhna... she is simply the MOST GLORIOUS and positive character in Bidaai. She is tender, and she does step back sometimes ... but that step backwards is just the beginning of a BILLION steps forward.

Let me tell you ... NO MATTER WHAT ARGUMENT was put forward (to which you are completely free, unless it hurts other member's feelings or demeans the character Sadhna or strays outside of the story) ... ALEKH WILL BEG (B-E-G) FORGIVENESS FROM SADHNA ... on his KNEES.

Alekh MUST KNEEEL infront of Sadhna in the coming episodes. I am confident that he will KNEEL ...

Maybe you will not like it?....hope you have a strong heart to bear it.... BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN INSHALLAH~!...😆


My Sadhna Is Blemishless.
Edited by Ice-Thinker - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: vishmewell


Bani, great question. I absolutely love it. With this question you have twisted my arm to share the analysis I was not willing to share 😕 I have to now answer with total honesty.

@ red - Yes, I would say she did have blind faith in Aalekh's love. One can only have that kind of faith when the other person also gives strong indications verbally or thru action. And she judged him very correctly.

She saw the pyaar bhara chahat in Aalekh's eyes, his bartaaw, checking her out top to bottom as if to compliment her. If you remember a scene at the site where they showed the mystery guy? Sadhana hid behind Mallika when Aalekh was checking her out and Aalekh gives a smirk as if only to indicate Dekha mai tera looks appreciate kar raha hu... You do have my attention kind of message was given in a subtle way. The reason Sadhana hid behind Mallika was not due to dislike, or not because she did not approve him checking her out, but letting Aalekh know, you are making me conscience.
She has the intellect to judge people by their body language. What people convey thru body language is what that person is actually thinking. what they say might be contradicting. eg. Sadhana was the only one who did not believe in Sonia from the word go.

@ green - Here my answer is No. Enthusiasm tho khushi ke mauke par hothe hai. This is a bad news. Zyaadaatar log even in the best of normal conditions, go into shock at an unexpected event. Hence, the display of irrational behavior, extreme anger (waise Aalekh temper tantrums ki badshah hai hi), devastation leading to frenzy (the way he drove the car and got into an accident. that was intentional. Appears like either he couldn't care to live anymore OR he wants to injure himself so bad that Sadhana MAY come back for him). While the frenzy fades away soon, irrational behavior and anger continues for a while. That's the time for the dust to settle down.

@ purple - Signing the paper was like whipping him on his back. Being the viewers or the third party, it may make sense to some. But the affected person is the one who is on reactive mode. So I would expect outburt of anger. So all the actions followed after that was irrational, insensitive, senseless behavior on part of Aalekh was due to rejection by the woman he is madly in love with. although we could argue and prove right that he was legally set free, the ball is in his court. He sent a wrong message to Sadhana he is moving on.

With all this said, the thing I was refraining from saying is, the CT beautifully orchestrated it only to treat the love birds to a rude awakening. Mallika is mere instrument to wake-up Sadhana from her Babul ki Aangan. Sadhana tanse Bidaai hogayi, lekin manse abhi bhi babul ki ghar mein hi hai. She is a dutiful wife with total attachment with Mayka. That will not work in a marriage. I think the CT wants to make Sadhana realize how everyone will move on with their lives even after her sacrifices and woh apne aapko akele paayegi with the memories of Aalekh and the realization to re-evaluate her life. Kya khoya, Kya paaya, aur kaha galathi hui. She already knows what she did... but will realize later it's not worth it.

And Aalekh too, will have a rude awakening that his temper tantrums, not being expressive, to trust and stand up for his wife which everyone expressed.

The biggest Lesson CT will show in future tracks is Salekh cannot chose one or the other relationships in any given situation, but maintain good balance. They created a feeling in viewers that Sadhana character is the personification and embodiment of perfection. Now they will focus on showing anything extreme is bad. Aur viewers ko ek jhatka diya (to some of us). And some are still in denial.

The moral of the story: The truth is nobody with a physical body can be perfect. But you realize your own flaws, accept them gracefully and mend them (seek conciliation) and move on. Salekh has a long way to go before they can literally become SALEKH! 😊



Excellent analysis. 👏 It doesn't matter who begs or not but let this be a lesson for both Sadhana and Alekh that they are incomplete without each other.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: vishmewell



Bani, great question. I absolutely love it. With this question you have twisted my arm to share the analysis I was not willing to share 😕 I have to now answer with total honesty.

@ red - Yes, I would say she did have blind faith in Aalekh's love. One can only have that kind of faith when the other person also gives strong indications verbally or thru action. And she judged him very correctly.

She saw the pyaar bhara chahat in Aalekh's eyes, his bartaaw, checking her out top to bottom as if to compliment her. If you remember a scene at the site where they showed the mystery guy? Sadhana hid behind Mallika when Aalekh was checking her out and Aalekh gives a smirk as if only to indicate Dekha mai tera looks appreciate kar raha hu... You do have my attention kind of message was given in a subtle way. The reason Sadhana hid behind Mallika was not due to dislike, or not because she did not approve him checking her out, but letting Aalekh know, you are making me conscience.
She has the intellect to judge people
by their body language. What people convey thru body language is what
that person is actually thinking. what they say might be contradicting. eg.
Sadhana was the only one who did not believe in Sonia from the word go.

@ green - Here my answer is No. Enthusiasm tho khushi ke mauke par hothe hai. This is a bad news. Zyaadaatar log even in the best of normal conditions, go into shock at an unexpected event. Hence, the display of irrational behavior, extreme anger (waise Aalekh temper tantrums ki badshah hai hi), devastation leading to frenzy (the way he drove the car and got into an accident. that was intentional. Appears like either he couldn't care to live anymore OR he wants to injure himself so bad that Sadhana MAY come back for him). While the frenzy fades away soon, irrational behavior and anger continues for a while. That's the time for the dust to settle down.

@ purple - Signing the paper was like whipping him on his back. Being the viewers or the third party, it may make sense to some. But the affected person is the one who is on reactive mode. So I would expect outburt of anger. So all the actions followed after that was irrational, insensitive, senseless behavior on part of Aalekh was due to rejection by the woman he is madly in love with. although we could argue and prove right that he was legally set free, the ball is in his court. He sent a wrong message to Sadhana he is moving on.

With all this said, the thing I was refraining from saying is, the CT beautifully orchestrated it only to treat the love birds to a rude awakening. Mallika is mere instrument to wake-up Sadhana from her Babul ki Aangan. Sadhana tanse Bidaai hogayi, lekin manse abhi bhi babul ki ghar mein hi hai. She is a dutiful wife with total attachment with Mayka. That will not work in a marriage. I think the CT wants to make Sadhana realize how everyone will move on with their lives even after her sacrifices and woh apne aapko akele paayegi with the memories of Aalekh and the realization to re-evaluate her life. Kya khoya, Kya paaya, aur kaha galathi hui. She already knows what she did... but will realize later it's not worth it.

And Aalekh too, will have a rude awakening that his temper tantrums, not being expressive, to trust and stand up for his wife which everyone expressed.

The biggest Lesson CT will show in future tracks is Salekh cannot chose one or the other relationships in any given situation, but maintain good balance. They created a feeling in viewers that Sadhana character is the personification and embodiment of perfection. Now they will focus on showing anything extreme is bad. Aur viewers ko ek jhatka diya (to some of us). And some are still in denial.

The moral of the story: The truth is nobody with a physical body can be perfect. But you realize your own flaws, accept them gracefully and mend them (seek conciliation) and move on. Salekh has a long way to go before they can literally become SALEKH! 😊



Excellent work...I loved your analysis about how Sadhana hasn't forgotton her Babul ka Aagan....and that's the serial, Bidaai is all about..OMG.....I am simply amazed...I suggest your post this post in RS blog as welll, cos I am not sure even if he has realized what you are trying to say. Good Job. 👏 👏 👏
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: --Anu--



She made a deal out of her marriage and that's so wrong. If she wants to divorce Alekh, then do it with dignity and respect. There were other options for money...Ragini won the competition, Ranveer could have helped, Vinu could have taken a loan. But no...she doesn't want anyone to even move a finger...she is there na for the Sharma parivaar. She didnt' even let Mamaji know about his wife's health.

What was she planning to do...kidnap Kaushi in the middle of the night and get her operated, then bring her back home before everyone wakes up. This is the most unrealistic track. When there is such crisis in the family that is a life and death situation, this is not how its handled. No one even informed Ragini about this.



i vouch for Sadi's goodness ....but she's a classic example of goodness minus smartness..u will get everybody's sympathy but ppl. will use you, walk over you and u will not even know ! i sometimes get confused with the definition of selflessness...selflessness means not caring for ur own happiness? but when the same person becomes selfish for others then ? sadi doesn't want anything for her but wants Ragini happy , hence this mess..there akshara did the same for nandini..

the scene is slightly blurred here..i'll not go into the past, Sadi's intentions can never be doubted..she's NOT a gold-digger...she genuinely cares for everyone around her..whether she's taken a right decision or wrong decisions in life, she stands by it and nibaofies it with full conviction , dedication and heart...and i really admire her for this...

now for the divorce..Sadi had all the reasons to divorce Alekh BUT she never wanted to do it..AT THAT MOMENT , she signed the papers for money..IF she wanted divorce from Alekh ,she would have talked to Alekh first, tell him that his mom came to her with the papers and want her to sign it , but THEY should mutually decide whether they wanna seperate or give another chance to their marriage..she cud have done this BEFORE the dance competition ......If Alekh had not given a satisfactory reply, nobody wud have pointed a finger on her as to why she did what she did that day..then there was no need to wait for the competition also..she cud have signed the papers and got the money much earlier.......

she just keeps everything to herself , i dun think Alekh & Sadi had a conversation after they seperated..even if she didn't wanna consult him , the man deserved to be TOLD ke Sadi wants a divorce and the reason for the same....if Sadi really wanted to divorce Alekh ,why didn't she tell her maamaji tht vasu came to her with the divorce papers? or anyone for that matter? even NOW when the truth is out in open, just for a fake promise to Vasu she wants to hide it frm everyone the actual reason behind signing the papers..if she really thought tht her marriage is not working, she wouldn't be joining that painting again...why cry over it then? and she'll not waste a second before going back to Alekh...

now her maamaji also knows ke Sadi is lying coz he saw her crying in front of Alekh's painting..he knows this is only vasu's gameplan , NOT sadi's wish...Sadi's goodness is limitless but if she acts a bit more intelligent, everything will work in her favor..at least not keep so many secrets ..i can't understand her behavior towards Ranvir..he just wanted to help her..one of the very few who cares for her, but for ragini, she was acting rudely with him also ..


the bottomline is that if she wanted money, there were other possible options, she just needed to TELL a few ppl abt it.... if she wanted divorce the CV's shouldn't have messed it up by brining in this"deal" in b/w....
Edited by _charu_ - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

@vish,

lovely analysis....yes, its time that Salekh become Salekh in the truest sense... creatives are really sketching it right...totally meaningful... actually, you know people like you and your writeups make me addicted to this forum, how brilliant analysis some of you make....great.it shows how talented and well educated you are...





Thanks Bani. I did not want to be a party pooper as most people would like to be in the moment and enjoy as the tracks unveil.

Yes, I must agree with you that this forum can become addictive for the same reasons you beautifully put.

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