Originally posted by: eleniel83
I would request everybody to read my below post as that might put an end to Sadhna-Ragini comparison....
Guys it's a long discussion and in the beginning I just want to say that it is a serial and unfortunately in our serials the characters are shown as either Angels or Demons not normal human being and we have become so used to of watching such characters that even with a single flaw we start bashing the character and that is the reason we all are bashing Sadhna &
Ragini both as we expect them to be best at all the times. In reality there are no characters like Sadhna, Tulsi, Parvati etc. In my view Ragini is a normal life character with goodness and bad both that is why I dint take her name with Sadhna & Tulsi.
I have read everybody's comments on this post and will try to give my POV one by one about all b/c my views are a mixtures of everybody's views - ppl supporting Sadhna as well as ppl supporting Ragini.
First of all lets come to Sadhna not lieing in the court. In the begining I was among the people who thought that Sadhna is totally wrong as in todays world no one is such an epitome of truth who is not able to say a lie to save her own devar/jeeja who also happens to be the person who saved her izzat. I was the one who thought that Sadhna is served rigth as in today's world no in-laws will accept a bahu because of whom there son went to jail. But a few days ago i read somebody's post who said that it was a matter of lieing on GITA and that was against her values. Now i totally understand that how difficult it is to lie on religious book for a women who hold religion very high. I am a muslim and when I gave it a thought I realized that if it would have been an islamic court and I was to give witness over Quran then I would rather die than lieing on Quran, it is totally unacceptable for a normal muslim also. Many muslims do lie but then they do not have that kind of values. And according to our belief if someone lies on Quran then he/she will be punished in this world only. So I think same goes for hindus also therefore now I can understand Sadhna's dilemma and dont consider the scenario to be totally unrealistic. Although Sadhna should have informed the family before hand that I will not be able to lie so please think about some other solution instead of just deciding by herself not to lie and let Ranveer get punished. Also as someone in this topic pointed out that before giving any witness the lawyer himself talks to the witness and prepares for them for the cross questioning but Mr. Singhania who was the best lawyer didnt even realized that the witness was uncomfortable and that could be risky for the case.
Okay now lets come to why is Sadhna now able to lie in front of her Mamaji. Well the reason I have given above answers this argument that lieing on GITA is a different matter and here she is lieing only to save her Mama from tension and no religious book is involved in it. But in my view that is also useless as Mamaji would get to know it and he finally got to know about it when Mamiji's condition got worsed and was to be operated immediately. Therefore there was no use of hiding it. Her Mamaji is strong enough to bear the truth and what an elder person (male) can do that a young women cant do. He would have been able to arrange money somehow. Okay I agree that she didnt want to let him know about the girvi thing b/c that would have created a great havoc and during this situation avoiding such a havoc is a wise decision. If she is trying to hide it in order to save her brother then that is justified. Girvi thing can be told once Mami comes back to home. But I always hate the serials track in which the heroine always hides everything from others and tries to solve everything by herself instead of taking anyone's help. Basically it was very unnatural to think that you can learn dance in 4 days and manage to win it. Money for Mami's operation was a very important matter and she decided to get it from the dance competition. It was so uncertain and she should not have stopped vinu from arrangign the money. A normal human being like all of us would have decided that both should try instead of relying on one person only. In my view if she can ask the money from Vasu then why not Ranveer???? Ranveer is always there to help her,he undertands her on the other hand vasu is mean towards her. If anyone gives the argument that she does not want to talk to Ranveer b/c Ragini does not want to then I wud say that she is talking to Ranveer to help him make Ragini happy and also if she had asked Ranveer for help then it would not have beem wrong b/c she was trying to save Ragini's mother. If Ranveer cud help her then why to sign the divorce papers, this is shown only to make Sadhna's character good in the eyes of Mami ji & Ragini that she sacrificed her marriage for Mamiji's life ( and this might be a catalyst for the family reunion afterwards). So all these sacrifices which they show in serials are unnatural and there are always better ways but the creatives always want to show their leading lady as the sacrifice queen. Stopping vinu from telling the truth right now is justified as it woud raise questions in the HOSPITAL that how did she get the money and why cant vinu arrange it etc. So okay fine justified but why in the first place she assured vinu that she will arrange the money when she realistically had no means to arrange the money. Getting money for a dying person thru a dance competition and that also when you dont know the ABC of dance is very risky. Why didnt she allow vinu to arrange it as he is a Mard/man and might have done something for his mom.
Okay how people say that why is she not telling Ragini about her mother's situation etc for this my comments are that they are not telling her b/c Ragini already went thru an emotional turmoil and miscarriage too so acc to the doctor she shd be kep away from tension, so I am okay with the fact of not telling Ragini about her mom. Therefore in my view Sadhna somewhere is right and some where wrong too. And this is how it should be, no one is perfect.....
Coming to Ragini, first of all as a normal human being if Ragini is angry with Sadhna then it is justified b/c anyone woudl be angry with a person (who is a close relative too) to give witness against her husband. But turning so much against her is very unnatural and bad on Ragini's part. I mean how can she be so hard that she didnt even care when Sadhna was thrown out of the house.She is not at all worried abt her sister's marriage. Blaming Sadhna for her miscarriage is also wrong. Fine she was tensed due to which she fell down and the tension was b/c of ranveer being jailed and he was jailed b/c of Sadhna's witness but still blaming her is wrong. I agree although their relationship was strong but when a person goes thru such an emotional turmoil and has been always brain washed that Sadhna is the reason of your problems and if a situation comes where she gives witness against you then certain doubts do arise. BUT how can she forget the face that it's Sadhna who sacrificed her whole life's happinesss to get her married. Marrying an abnormal person willingly is not easy thing and if Sadhna did that then i think she never needs any other thing to do to make Ragini realize how much she loves her. Marrying an abnormal means that she will never be able to get a wife's status and never be able to become a mother. Can Ragini do this for Sadhna despiter her pure love for her???? Then how can she doubt Sadhan and believe Vasu when she said that Sadhna cudnt see your happiness and completeness in life ( i hope u all understand what i mean by completeness) b/c she cudnt get all that.....Vasu is such an ehsaaan faramosh-well dotn want to include her in the discussion. So a normal scenario wud have been that although Ragini did get angry and doubtful abt Sadhna but managed to understand her turmoil ateleast when she got her husband back. Staying negative nowadays when Ranveer is back with all his love is very mean at Ragini's part. She is so busy and happy in her own world with her husband's love that she didnt even bother to think once about her sister. Atleast they shd have shown her once or two abt Sadhna whether what she is doing to her is justified or not. But she has become so ignorant that she does not give a damn about her and get so angry if Ranveer tries to explain her. This is a bit unrealistic. If you all notice i am using the words of realistic or unnatural instead of bashing or praising Sadhna & Ragini b/c they are only characters and doing what is told by the creatives and what the story line is.
Also in my view whatever Mamiji and Nani says abt Sadhna that she is the reason for Ragini's problems is all bull...... According to me Ragini is the one who got everything, her own home, her parents love, brother & sisters love, a handsome, educated & loving husband, and a supportive sasural. On the other hand Sadhna was an unwanted child in her Mama's house and that is a painful fact in itself. No matter mama ji, Ragini & vinu supported her but the painful words which mamiji and nani always used are enuf to make anybody feel terrible. Sadhna does not have a normal husband and when he became normal he abondoned her. She is treated by her in-laws as if she is some disease although she is the one who sacrificed a lot for her in-laws. On the other hand Ragini never had to face any situation in which she had to sacrifice for the family ( I am not saying that Ragini never did anything for the family, what i am saying is that she never came across such a situation) but still is treated by everyone like a gem. Fine she was about to give birth to the family's child but that is b/c Ranveer was normal and Alekh wasnt. If Vasu says that sadhna was never equal to Alekh then how is Ragini equal to Ranveer? both sisters are from same family background. Ragini is the one who got all kind of happiness and Sadhna didnt.Its jus that they didnt belive in God otherwise they wud have thought that it is God who creates Kismat and not ppl.If God wants to give happiness to Ragini he will give it to her despite her dark complexion. And that is proved too, Ragini got all but Sadhna didnt. If fair complexion is to make your kismat then Sadhna wud have a got a normal husband, her parents love, her own house & siblings. How can everybody deny this fact????? Also mami kia kerti agar us ki aik aur beti hoti jo Sadhna ke jaise fair hoti, phir kia wo apni sagi beti ko bhi issi tarah se her waqt batains sunati????
If Ragini thought that Sadhana is dancing just to show her low then on one hand she is justified to think like this b/c at the moment her mind is so much poisoned by Vasu and by her own thougths that she is only thinking negative about her. But the point is why is she thinking all negative about Sadhna? she shd use some sense that if Sadhna wants to show her low then she wud do this where she is perfect at instead of in something which she doesnt know. I agree that she was very mean when she didnt thought abt Sadhna once when she fell down and enjoyed her success to the fullest.
I donot agree with ppl who say that she was concerned about her mother. She was not at all concerned, she was so busy with her dance competition that she didnt think once abt her mother getting dark circles etc around her eyes ( the epi in which she asked nani to sing and she danced) etc. She has been busy in getting ready, waiting for Ranveer and just thought for a whicle why they didnt come and again got busy with competition. After the first round also she was so concerned about her winning and thinking that if she looses now she will never be able to regain her cofidence. Never thought once why did Sadhna though of dancing all of a sudden. After winning also she remained busy with the celebrations and after sooooo longgggg she started worrying abt her mom.....ab khayal aa gaya???? the scene was very unnatural where they showed her talking to vinu,when he told her that some relative is sick she didnt ask him who he/she is and said meri ma say baat karao. It was unnatual on the director's part, agar koi rishtedar beemar hoa hai tou pehle us ka poochou when she never had doubts abt her mother tou ab achanak kia hoa? If anybody says that it is her lover towards her mother then i wud say where was that love the whole day and the whole week when her mother was suffering. Didnt she go once to her parents house, okay if she didnt go, didnt she talked once to her mom on phone, cudnt she realize at that time abt her mother. Where was her gut feeling gone at that time which arised all of a sudden after enjoying all the success......So i wud say that the directors are not showing it properly and yes at the moment they are showing Ragini a bit negative b/c they have made her very stone hearted towards Sadhna. During the Ranveer's come back party where she danced with Ranveer and Vasu asked Alekh to dance with Malika, she was so much involved in her happiness that she didnt think for a while abt Sadhna. Has she ever thought how it feels like when you are married but your husband is not able to know how to praise your wife. Acc to me thora sa dikhana chahiye tha ke Sadhna ko dekh ker thori uncomfortable hoi per phir socha ke Sadhna ne mera saath acha nahi kai. This wud have been a bit natural and justified on Ragini's part but the track what they are showing now is that acc to ragini Sadhna doesnt exist in this world. She has just forgotten abt Sadhna and wants others to do the same.....
So guys stop defending Sadhan & Ragini as both are somewhere right and somewhere wrong as they are normal human beings and not Bhagwan. Please notice that they are only wrong not evil and that is how normal human beings are and I agree with the topic starter that if Sadhna is good then Ragini is also not bad.
Hope this longggggggg post wud end the discussion....
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