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Posted: 15 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: helloall


I agree and disagree with your post. After Marriage, your husband is your closest and most important relationship - yes, but that does not mean other relationships cease to exist. One should be balanced in their relationships. Getting married does not mean no one else matters to you anymore and you stop looking beyond your spouse. Each relationship has its own value in life and one has to strike a balance as much as possible. That is why Vinu's behavior irks everyone cause he is blinded by Malti's love and cannot see beyond her.

In this case since the day Ranvir was jailed, Ragini has been living in a world of dreams, even before he was sentenced jail. I mean I agree she needs him the most when she is pregnant, but life is not all goody goody always, so you have to face the situation with courage. In a long long time I haven't seen Ragini strong. When dadibua used to poison her mind against Saadhna, she would just listen quietly to her, until Ranvir corrected her. Why couldn't she just getup and say I can't hear a word against my sister, I love her a lot or just like Saadhna make an excuse and leave. She was elder but when elders forget their duties and take the wrong path, is it a wise thing to just sit and listen to their crap?

The miscarriage was entirely her fault. Being away from your husband does not mean you loose senses. I met a lady the other day, whose husband was in army and had to go to Iraq when she was 2 months pregnant. Her husband came after a year to greet a healthy little boy. I was just wondering how life must have been for her those months of pregnancy, she didn't even know if she would ever see her husband or not, but she was one strong lady I have to say.

Also, I agree when people say CT's have damaged her character a lot, but what I don't understand is when people say don't blame Raagini, blame CTs. When we blame Raagini, are we not blaming CTs as they have created this fictional character called Raagini, otherwise Raagini is not a actual person who exists. 😕



wow i really love your post! 👏
i think you disagreed with me on the sentence where i said your husband becomes closest to your heart. And whatever you replied to that is perfectly what i think too! After marriage, a person still has to fulfill their other responsibilities towards their other relationships. But if you see in my post i never said that ragini ignores her other relationships or anything that has to do with HER commitment towards others than her husband😊 And in my post i was trying to say why i think her actions are justifiable to me considering the situation she is in now, i didnt talk about her as a person in a whole. I was justifying her reaction towards sadhna and her sadness. I don't want to talk about what she did when dadibua was there since this topic isnt about it.

See a person's personality or characteristic is never born weak or strong, they become strong or weak in certain situations considering how their mind reacts to that situation. Would you consider ragini strong if she just forgave sadhna like that and acting like her husband is not even in jail? But we all would consider her weak when she becomes careless on the stairs that leads to her miscarriage. But on the other side she was an inspiration to all of us and she was considered strong when she sticked to her family over her love. If her being strong doesnt meet your criteria, doesnt mean she's not strong. A person would still be called nice, doesnt matter if he's being nice by giving money to the poor or by smiling at a person.

And thank you for telling me about the strong lady...i really respect that lady from my heart. But in my life, what i have learnt is that not everybody's psychology is going to work the same way! Not everybody's going to react to situations in the same way. (That's what i said too when i was justifying sadhna's slap to ranvir lol). I would like to know if that lovely lady had support and guidance with her throughout the whole time, because basically ragini has none right now. All the people around her, who were supposed to be her guidance right now and give her positive thoughts, are poisoning her mind with negative things specially about sadhna and that's how her mind is basically reacting.
Edited by -Saalekh- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: -Saalekh-



wow i really love your post! 👏
i think you disagreed with me on the sentence where i said your husband becomes closest to your heart. And whatever you replied to that is perfectly what i think too! After marriage, a person still has to fulfill their other responsibilities towards their other relationships. But if you see in my post i never said that ragini ignores her other relationships or anything that has to do with HER commitment towards others than her husband😊 And in my post i was trying to say why i think her actions are justifiable to me considering the situation she is in now, i didnt talk about her as a person in a whole. I was justifying her reaction towards sadhna and her sadness. I don't want to talk about what she did when dadibua was there since this topic isnt about it.

See a person's personality or characteristic is never born weak or strong, they become strong or weak in certain situations considering how their mind reacts to that situation. Would you consider ragini strong if she just forgave sadhna like that and acting like her husband is not even in jail? But we all would consider her weak when she becomes careless on the stairs that leads to her miscarriage. But on the other side she was an inspiration to all of us and she was considered strong when she sticked to her family over her love. If her being strong doesnt meet your criteria, doesnt mean she's not strong. A person would still be called nice, doesnt matter if he's being nice by giving money to the poor or by smiling at a person.

And thank you for telling me about the strong lady...i really respect that lady from my heart. But in my life, what i have learnt is that not everybody's psychology is going to work the same way! Not everybody's going to react to situations in the same way. (That's what i said too when i was justifying sadhna's slap to ranvir lol). I would like to know if that lovely lady had support and guidance with her throughout the whole time, because basically ragini has none right now. All the people around her, who were supposed to be her guidance right now and give her positive thoughts, are poisoning her mind with negative things specially about sadhna and that's how her mind is basically reacting.

loved your post and agree with each and every word of it

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Posted: 15 years ago
#53
@Puja.K:-

Hey dear,Puja..I am very sorry for being rude..Really..Don't apologize dear coz you weren't wrong either!🤗
Obviously,one has to experience the situation to know the pain!

But,see the situation is..Ragini was able to see beyond herself in the past like when Vineet was in jail..She was not always being self-centered like she's now..Agreed she's lost her child and why?Coz of her own stupidity!If it was due to other circumstances,I would have understood...Whatever situation she's in is just coz of herself and plus..The "Old" Ragini was more stronger when compared to this one!She was able to see the difference between right and wrong everywhere!See,handling oneself through the most difficult times marks their strength but,Ragini was not able to handle herself and well did she want one innocent to suffer coz of Ranvir?Yes!Old Ragini would never have thought like that!She never wished bad for Dolly who was outright rude to her but,now?
That's wrong!She never supported her own people who were wrong those days and was straight forward with them but,now?She doesn't even bother!
And well she's in a shock but then does she have the strength to judge Sadhna?She just can't judge her at this point of time..If she's well enough to judge someone then,she should also be well enough to judge why her own sister told the truth!

And dear,I am more of a Ragini fan than Sadhna..It's just that I can't see her character going down the drain like that!

And dear,when she knew it was only her and her baby who kept Ranvir going in the jail,she should have taken care of herself na?But she didn't even heed to Ranvir's wishes!
She's just acting OTT crazy now!

And I am sorry for my last post!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Firstly,Sadia,Zee dee etc:-
Agreed,after marriage relationship with Hubby is more than important!But,that doesn't mean one becomes so hubby-minded that they only see their hubby and nothing other than that!
Firstly,DS was talking about putting the blame on an innocent which was wrong on his part and more than wrong on Ragini's part to support that!
LOL,how can she do that?If one is a rightful husband/wife then he/she should correct their partner's faults and not support them even if they're wrong!
And secondly..The "Old" Ragini would never do that..She could make out the difference between right and wrong and always thought ahead of herself!
Btw,what was Chandu's fault that Ragini should think of sending him to jail instead of Ranvir?Absolutely ridiculous!
And one more thing..Had it been Aalekh who had saved Sadhna instead of Ranvir..She would have done the same thing and told the truth and wouldn't have lied and that would be the right thing!Telling the truth takes a lot of courage and one should be courageous to accept the truth unlike Ragini!

And for those saying Ragini is NOT weak..Oh tell me how can she be called strong?If she was stronger she wouldn't have gone bonkers over some image of Ranvir and would have been mature enough to understand the situation and glue her life together..That's called strength and not THIS!

@t2004sachin:-Did I ever tell Sadhna loved Saketh?Read my post properly then you'll understand that it was all a drama!

And Ragini's actions are not justifiable coz as I said..Ranvir himself is accepting the truth and is understanding his fault then why can't Ragini do so..And eventually deprived her husband of Fatherhood too!
And personally too,I wouldn't go bonkers over my husband that I start to ignore all his faults..Then,what kind of a wife I would prove to be?
Edited by -Kezia- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Kezia-

Firstly,Sadia,Zee dee etc:-
Agreed,after marriage relationship with Hubby is more than important!But,that doesn't mean one becomes so hubby-minded that they only see their hubby and nothing other than that!
Firstly,DS was talking about putting the blame on an innocent which was wrong on his part and more than wrong on Ragini's part to support that!
LOL,how can she do that?If one is a rightful husband/wife then he/she should correct their partner's faults and not support them even if they're wrong!
And secondly..The "Old" Ragini would never do that..She could make out the difference between right and wrong and always thought ahead of herself!
Btw,what was Chandu's fault that Ragini should think of sending him to jail instead of Ranvir?Absolutely ridiculous!
And one more thing..Had it been Aalekh who had saved Sadhna instead of Ranvir..She would have done the same thing and told the truth and wouldn't have lied and that would be the right thing!Telling the truth takes a lot of courage and one should be courageous to accept the truth unlike Ragini!

And for those saying Ragini is NOT weak..Oh tell me how can she be called strong?If she was stronger she wouldn't have gone bonkers over some image of Ranvir and would have been mature enough to understand the situation and glue their life together..That's called strength and not THIS!

@t2004sachin:-Did I ever tell Sadhna loved him?Read my post properly then you'll understand that it was all a drama!

And Ragini's actions are not justifiable coz as I said..Ranvir himself is accepting the truth and is understanding his fault then why can't Ragini do so..And eventually deprived her husband of Fatherhood too!
And personally too,I wouldn't go bonkers over my husband that I start to ignore all his faults..Then,what kind of a wife I would prove to be?

Kezu, I didn't say that Ragini should think only of her husband, but what she is through now is too difficult and in such situation even in real life, it's too difficult to think of logical and illogical reaction, coz she is shattered.............
Ragini's reaction is too logical............
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Kezia: i agree with you dear........ a wife should not forget her duties .... she should not get tooo blinded in love.....that's very very true....coz.. at anytime your husband would come to you for support.....coz you r his better half.......

But looking at the situation.... we actually can't blame her yarrrrr.....not completely though.....she is shattered ...and she needs time to gather herself..hai na

Well.. 1 thing i would just want here is.. Ragini should not ask Sadhana for forgiveness later...coz than that will prove her absolutely wrong......Ragini may be wrong..but not completely........once she get's to know the truth........ she will definitely realize what she has done....just like Sadhana did during that Accident time.....but i seriously don't want Either Sadhana or Ragini asking for forgiveness.... coz...both have an equal part to play in the sorrow..right dear
Edited by Sh_ka_su - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: lisasandra

I think that at the moment Ragini's action justifiable.She is doing because of her husband and baby.Once Shadna also slap Ranvir(jiji's husband) because of her husband.

We should not blame Ragini and Shadna .We should blame only Bidaai creative team.



Once again,Sadi didn't slap Ranvir only coz of HER husband but,also because Ranvir put both their lives in danger by giving Aalekh the car to drive..BOTH their lives!

And obv,CTs are to be blamed but,considering the serial a reality,whom can we blame?The characters only right?😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Zee dee:-Firstly,I don't like the creatives portraying women as weak..See there was a similar situation in KTH(Sorry for bringing in another serial)..But,when Piyush died,Kashish held her life together and almost gave birth to the child but,she was deprived of her Motherhood coz of an accident which isn't completely her fault!
They could have shown something similar here too,coz I hate this portrayal of Ragini..Leads should be an example for other people unlike Ragini..Ragini(Older) was an example to all the darker people on how they should remain strong..Leads need to stand out like Sadhna does(Not in all situations but,many situations one can take lessons from her!)

@Anu:-Thanks for agreeing!🤗
And about forgiveness..If Ragini feels she is wrong then it's better to ask for forgiveness!
On her part,it's not right to be self centered!
Edited by -Kezia- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Kezia-

Zee dee:-Firstly,I don't like the creatives portraying women as weak..See there was a similar situation in KTH(Sorry for bringing in another serial)..But,when Piyush died,Kashish held her life together and almost gave birth to the child but,she was deprived of her Motherhood coz of an accident which isn't completely her fault!
They could have shown something similar here too,coz I hate this portrayal of Ragini..Leads should be an example for other people unlike Ragini..Ragini(Older) was an example to all the darker people on how they should remain strong..Leads need to stand out like Sadhna does(Not in all situations but,many situations one can take lessons from her!)

@Anu:-Thanks for agreeing!🤗
And about forgiveness..If Ragini feels she is wrong then it's better to ask for forgiveness!
On her part,it's not right to be self centered!

It's ok, I know what u mean, but we can't judge this like being weak, coz losing her own child is not easy thing, it has nothing of being weak or strong, it would be illogical if they show Ragini or Kashish being happy so fast as nothing happend, especially Ragini, who has not her husband beside her in such situation, it might brings her in depression, it's much realistic, same with Kashish, she lost her child and her husband was dead at that time, family support is good, but her husband support is something else, even if we try to ignore it, I think it's like this, even if husband is there, it would take her time to come out of this, thought might husband support is much to help, but losing her own child, it would make her blame her self inside her and feel guilty for it.........
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey ram phir se shuru.

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