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Posted: 15 years ago
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They say: Agar ek jhoot kisi ki jaan bacha saake toh usska koi paap nahi lagta.

Agreed that Sadhna will follow the path of truth, and will most likely free Ranveer on her own etc. However, will she be able to live with the price of this truth
Ragni is preggy, and as far as I have read the articles (and as per my understanding), she will suffer a miscarriage. Now my question is the truth that important that it takes away this life before it actually sees life
Will Sadhna's truth be so important that it will be even still the right thing to do at the end
Ragni's state now is so terrible, even with the hope of Ranveer getting out of jail. She's been told (as far as i've read in the updates) that she could think of her health-kid and all. Sadhna has seen her sorrow up close, and as a woman she must know how this could effect Ragni's pregnancy.
Trying to be righteous, Sadhna will have to pay a heavy price for it. A lie is no paap when you can save an innocent life, especially that of a child. Any woman would lie for the well-being of her own child, and Ragni's kid is like her own here (considering the present bond they share).
Yes, in the past Sadhna has hidden the truth many times; and yes, this is a criminal case. However, we say 'charity begins at home', I would like to add,'insaaf bhi ghar se shuru hota hai'. For once I would like to a woman of today's time; who thinks over every aspect that she will effect in the long run. You may be with truth, but not always is the truth the right option to go.
If Ragni is shown to drift away from Sadhna then I support her wholeheartedly. She will actually behave like a normal human being; losing her child, and basically losing her husband (as he's in jail). Reality is no one is magnious as these shows portray, everyone has both the shades-grey and white. So Ragni's reaction will be appropriate at this juncture.
Sorry, but as a woman, I can not accept what Sadhna's truth will cost. For me it's not about the characters who are present now, but for the unborn child. If the miscarriage will happen, then I find no justifiable excuse for Sadhna's truth. A child's life comes before any truth, aur ek maa ke liye kisi Bhagwan se bhi phele aata hai usska bachcha.
One last thing:
I am not a fan of Bidaai or any of its characters. I don't even watch the show, but I do read the updates (and thanks to all of them who write them). This is just my two cents to the discussion. I have tried to present a different take on the discussion, by not discussing Ragni-Ranveer's separation or pain; but the unborn child who may not be born at all.
I was not happy with Ragni's reaction towards Sadhna when Sadhna slapped Ranveer. For me Sadhna's reaction was fine, as her husband is mentally not well; Ranveer should have known better. Then I did not like Ragni for her silent when her mom goes after (went after too) Sadhna. Ragni has been shown a weak character in so many aspects, and I don't like that. However, that is just my view.
Anyways, what I want to say is please don't take offense to my views as they are only mine; I am not imposing them on anyone. All of these characters have flaws to them, and it's good to take it with a pinch of salt-)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: HeroNumberOne

They say: Agar ek jhoot kisi ki jaan bacha saake toh usska koi paap nahi lagta.

Agreed that Sadhna will follow the path of truth, and will most likely free Ranveer on her own etc. However, will she be able to live with the price of this truth
Ragni is preggy, and as far as I have read the articles (and as per my understanding), she will suffer a miscarriage. Now my question is the truth that important that it takes away this life before it actually sees life
Will Sadhna's truth be so important that it will be even still the right thing to do at the end
Ragni's state now is so terrible, even with the hope of Ranveer getting out of jail. She's been told (as far as i've read in the updates) that she could think of her health-kid and all. Sadhna has seen her sorrow up close, and as a woman she must know how this could effect Ragni's pregnancy.
Trying to be righteous, Sadhna will have to pay a heavy price for it. A lie is no paap when you can save an innocent life, especially that of a child. Any woman would lie for the well-being of her own child, and Ragni's kid is like her own here (considering the present bond they share).
Yes, in the past Sadhna has hidden the truth many times; and yes, this is a criminal case. However, we say 'charity begins at home', I would like to add,'insaaf bhi ghar se shuru hota hai'. For once I would like to a woman of today's time; who thinks over every aspect that she will effect in the long run. You may be with truth, but not always is the truth the right option to go.
If Ragni is shown to drift away from Sadhna then I support her wholeheartedly. She will actually behave like a normal human being; losing her child, and basically losing her husband (as he's in jail). Reality is no one is magnious as these shows portray, everyone has both the shades-grey and white. So Ragni's reaction will be appropriate at this juncture.
Sorry, but as a woman, I can not accept what Sadhna's truth will cost. For me it's not about the characters who are present now, but for the unborn child. If the miscarriage will happen, then I find no justifiable excuse for Sadhna's truth. A child's life comes before any truth, aur ek maa ke liye kisi Bhagwan se bhi phele aata hai usska bachcha.
One last thing:
I am not a fan of Bidaai or any of its characters. I don't even watch the show, but I do read the updates (and thanks to all of them who write them). This is just my two cents to the discussion. I have tried to present a different take on the discussion, by not discussing Ragni-Ranveer's separation or pain; but the unborn child who may not be born at all.
I was not happy with Ragni's reaction towards Sadhna when Sadhna slapped Ranveer. For me Sadhna's reaction was fine, as her husband is mentally not well; Ranveer should have known better. Then I did not like Ragni for her silent when her mom goes after (went after too) Sadhna. Ragni has been shown a weak character in so many aspects, and I don't like that. However, that is just my view.
Anyways, what I want to say is please don't take offense to my views as they are only mine; I am not imposing them on anyone. All of these characters have flaws to them, and it's good to take it with a pinch of salt-)



@color:I like your interpretation.If the miscarriage happens even if Sadhana brings Ranvir back,can she bring back the child who is an innocent one in all this?! And please don't start arguing about fate here cos there is a reason why docs say to be careful,healthy,stress free during the pregnancy.If its all fate then why don't they just advise to leave it in God's hands and you continue living however you likE!!!

But on the other hand its also early discuss about all this until we get to see that miscarriage.
Edited by smitha80 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80



@color:I like your interpretation.If the miscarriage happens even if Sadhana brings Ranvir back,can she bring back the child who is an innocent one in all this?! And please don't start arguing about fate here cos there is a reason why docs say to be careful,healthy,stress free during the pregnancy.If its all fate then why don't they just advise to leave it in God's hands and you continue living however you likE!!!

But on the other hand its also early discuss about all this until we get to see that miscarriage.




Miscarriages are misused and abused in this soapie world. The cause of a miscarriage cannot always be determined and is very common among woman. The most common known causes of miscarriage in the first third of pregnancy (1st trimester) are chromosomal abnormalities, collagen vascular disease (such as lupus), diabetes, other hormonal problems infection, and congenital (present at birth) abnormalities of the uterus. Chromosomal abnormalities of the fetus are the most common cause of early miscarriages.

Its important to be healthy and stress-free during pregnancy, But who does not have stress these days and stress alone can not be a cause for it.. So many woman have their husbands stationed in remote countries, in jail or BF's left them or lost there husbands or in abusive marriage does not go through miscarriage just out of stress and unhappiness in their lives. The only lifestyle factors associated with miscarriage is heavy drinking, smoking and drugs.

Its very tragic for any woman and she may be depressed for some time due to this but its not end of the world. She can become pregnant again and have a healthy baby.

So in the end its fate.


Edited by --Anu-- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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FANTASTIC Anu ... mind blowing. Ekdum dhaaaassssuuuu post.
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Originally posted by: --Anu--




Miscarriages are misused and abused in this soapie world. The cause of a miscarriage cannot always be determined and is very common among woman. The most common known causes of miscarriage in the first third of pregnancy (1st trimester) are chromosomal abnormalities, collagen vascular disease (such as lupus), diabetes, other hormonal problems infection, and congenital (present at birth) abnormalities of the uterus. Chromosomal abnormalities of the fetus are the most common cause of early miscarriages.

Its important to be healthy and stress-free during pregnancy, But who does not have stress these days and stress alone can not be a cause for it.. So many woman have their husbands stationed in remote countries, in jail or BF's left them or lost there husbands or in abusive marriage does not go through miscarriage just out of stress and unhappiness in their lives. The only lifestyle factors associated with miscarriage is heavy drinking, smoking and drugs.

Its very tragic for any woman and she may be depressed for some time due to this but its not end of the world. She can become pregnant again and have a healthy baby.

So in the end its fate.




I didn't ask for an explaination since I already have kids and know the pros and cons of pregnancy.But thanks anyway!

Tell that to a woman that miscarriage is not the end of the world esp after getting pregnant and looking forward to the future and you will know that it might not be the end of the world but isn't easy either to get over in certain said amount of time.And can one be sure tht they will get pregnant again?

But here are we talking about RL or drama?!Did all these dramas have women with all these sceondary conditions?!
Edited by smitha80 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Now coming back to the main topic. Ranveer is in jail due to his uncontrolled temper and his own fate. Even if Sadhana says it was for Self-defense, they still need to prove it as the guy was hit on the head by a rod. She would be asked to describe the incident in detail and hiding the truth will not even work in this case.

Lets not forget there was another goon who has witnessed the whole incident. He could be caught and reveal the truth or even the guy who is in coma can regain his consciousness and blame Ranveer for his condition. So Sadi's false statement could make the matter worse for Ranveer. Its a much better situation to stick to the truth and find the real culprit(s) instead of relying on lies to save Ranveer. So she can not blamed in this case if Ranveer gets a punishment.



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes the main topic,Bidaai is gearing up towards the rift and it was evident from today's episode the way Ragini asked Sadhana that she even can't be part of this small lie so ya I am certain that she would mention everything that happened and actually its good instead of saying half truths and getting flustered later on when its PP's turn to question!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80



I didn't ask for an explaination since I already have kids and know the pros and cons of pregnancy.But thanks anyway!

Tell that to a woman that miscarriage is not the end of the world esp after getting pregnant and looking forward to the future and you will know that it might not be the end of the world but isn't easy either to get over in certain said amount of time.And can one be sure tht they will get pregnant again?


But here are we talking about RL or drama?!Did all these dramas have women with all these sceondary conditions?!



It was not for you but a general comment as there are so many misconceptions about miscarriage thanks to soapie world.

@bold : Yes its very unfortunate but its fate only. I have seen this in my family, friends and at work. So in the end everything turns out to be okay after some time. Please lets not argue over this.


Most importantly this can not be used as a factor to blame Sadi in this case. I hope you understand.



Edited by --Anu-- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey Anu,its different POV's I guess.My SIL had a miscarriage and it took another 5 years thru IVF.So at the end its not given.And it might also depend on a persons ability to cope.Anyways thats RL this is drama.SO vast difference and end of argument from my side.

I wouldn't blame Sadhana or Ragini either.Its unfortunate circumstances!
Edited by smitha80 - 15 years ago
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Those who have suffered one miscarriage also have an 80 per cent chance of a successful pregnancy.

Who knows Ragini might be the another one in that 20%?
If you can look at the positive side,spare a thought for the darker side too..Anything is possible!
Yes,one miscarriage might not be the end of the world and there are 80% chances of getting pregnant again but,well there is something called the emotional factor which one has to cope up with..U'd never know what the state of the person can be after ONE miscarriage..And our TV heroines are pathetically delicate which definitely doesn't look very good!🤢

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