Alekh's schizophrenic character unrealistic? - Page 2

This is a video I found where Angad says the character he's playing is schizophrenic.....

I know offline, in interviews, Angad has said that he is playing a schizophrenic character, but in actually in the show there hasn't been any confirmation...like no doctors have checked him, and said, "Aalkeh is Schizophrenic"....later when Sadi will take him to the doctors, perhaps we will know for sure.....they can always get away from what they didn't say in the show. I am thinking the doctor will say, he has some shock from childhood, which makes him fearful..blah blah.....

Bidaai is really scretive that ways...they always show words, expressions, that could go either way, like sometimes it is hard to read Vasu's expression, and make conclusions from Ambika/Satyan conversation.
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I think the creatives will just play around with whatever Aalekh has, maybe his condition is just due to what happened in the past and then now some events will lead to him remembering all that happened and show him on his way to recovery.

I just hope the creatives do it very nicely and not just all of a sudden thing.

Nice research, well have read about the condition in psycological books, initial days when Aalekh entered he behaved however, according to the show he is improving, now he has started thinking, but in case of this condition a medical checkup is essential atleast once a week or atleast a month, we have never seen that, however, may be the demand of the story is proceeding to Aalekh's recovery, and the characters are saying that Aalekh is recovering so it may be the demand of the story, however the way Angad has been potraying the character is applaudable, even in the initial days it was shown that Aalekh was kept in a locked room, well it was an absolute wrong... as the story proceeded its shown Sadhna taking good care of him and improving, in case os schezophrenia one needs to be very much patient and take care of the patient with love, the character of Aalekh is lovable its shown he reacts if he doesnt like things he is indeed one of the most adorable ones in the show!!

Luv,

Shagun

Originally posted by: *Kruthi*

After watching today's episode, I was kind of confused seeing Alekh's memory of their wedding night still so fresh. So I did some research on the net, and realized that actually a major impairment that schizophrenic deal with is memory. They sort of have a short-term memory, and its practically impossible for them to remember things for a long span in time. I just wish the Bidaai creative team would have done some research on this, we've seen schizophrenic patients in so many shows, it would be nice to have 1 show standing out and showing the actual symptoms of the disease.

Here's an excerpt from an article I found on this:

Rationale for Memory Problems in Schizophrenia

By Rick Nauert, Ph.D.
Senior News Editor
Reviewed by John M. Grohol, Psy.D. on March 12, 2008

Wednesday, Mar 12 (Psych Central) --

Memory deficits are a major problem for individuals diagnosed with schizophrenia. New research discovers a difference in how the brain processes information may be the source for failure of information retrieval.

''We found that schizophrenic patients use different areas of their brain than healthy individuals do for working memory, which is an active form of short-term memory,' said Sohee Park, a Vanderbilt University researcher.

''Both groups used their frontal cortex while remembering and forgetting. However, while healthy subjects groups used the right side of this brain area when asked to remember spatial locations, the schizophrenic patients used a wider network in both hemispheres.

''This suggests that while healthy people recruit a specialized and focused network of brain areas for specific memory functions, schizophrenic patients seem to rely on a more diffuse and wider network to achieve the same goal.

If anyone is interested in reading the full article, here it is: http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/03/12/rationale-for-memory-problems-in-schizophrenia/2030.html

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Another article on the 'emotional memory' of a schizophrenic patient, and his marriage experience with Sadhna would definitely count as an emotional memory, esp considering the fact that he was very ill at that time.

Emotional Memory in Schizophrenia

Ellen S. Herbener^1,2
2 Departments of Psychiatry and Psychology, University of Illinois at Chicago, IL

¹ To whom correspondence should be addressed; Department of Psychiatry, University of Illinois at Chicago, 912 S Wood Street (M/C 913), Chicago, IL 60612, tel: 312-413-4612, fax: 312-413-7856, e-mail: eherbener@psych.uic.edu .

Emotional memories play an important role in our day-to-day experience, informing many of our minute-to-minute decisions (eg, where to go for dinner, what are the likely consequences of not attending a meeting), as well as our long-term goal setting. Individuals with schizophrenia appear to be impaired in memory for emotional experiences, particularly over longer delay periods, which may contribute to deficits in goal-related behavior and symptoms of amotivation and anhedonia. This article reviews factors that are known to influence emotional memory in healthy subjects, applies these factors to results from emotional memory studies with individuals with schizophrenia, and then uses extant neurobiological models of emotional memory formation to develop hypotheses about biological processes that might particularly contribute to emotional memory impairment in schizophrenia.

I don't agree with what is been given above.. Schizophrenia people whom i have seen is very very intelligent and sharp.. they remember things.. like aalekh was recollecting sadhana's mukh dikhai etc as it happens.. aalekh is shown as a very intelligent character, that is the reason why he can paint, even with a description of a person.. means he is an extra ordinary person.. so reality matches to what is been shown.. only thing which i have not seen is the actions by aalekh.. which i have not seen in schizophrenia people, as they always look and behave proper, only thing they differ is in talking.. they can bring non connecting thinking in to their conversations, it happens only when they are affected by it.. by being normal, they become normal and behave and talk normal.. and it is important that they move in a society and society accept them with love.. which sadhana was trying to give him..

Originally posted by: Bini311

I think Aalkeh's character hasn't been defined Schizophrenic in the serai or on the record, so they might get away with it later....like turn it to something curable.

Cause Russell Crowe in " A Beautiful Mind" was a real Schizophrenic character.

Thats just it hes never been called that hes just in that state for some reason..articles etc use that to describe it because its probably the closest.

My way of looking at his condition is that hes not as angry now because he knows sadhna her family and has more support..i mean if i remeber from clips i saw in media centre right the first time they met he was tied up 😕 whats that going to do to him.

Aalekh has schizophrenia?

The chances of a schizeophrenia patient recovering completely from the illness is very, very rare, it hardly ever happens mostly because research is on-going for it, but since its a serial, probably that's what they have in store for him.

Wow, some really interesting discussions guys!

Greetings,

My name is Camara. I am from Indianapolis, Indiana and I am a 27 year old college student who was diagnosed with Mania my senior year of highschool. I was doing alot of marajuana smoking along with drinking and studying alot of ancient teachings. How drugs and and ancient spiritual wisdom tie in is I was on a soul search and I was using drugs to attempt to inhance spiritual highs. Interrestingly when I first started having symptoms of schizophrenia which were audioble noise and visual thoughts in my mind that werent my own. The hallucinations were never as real as somthing sitting in front of me they were internal pictures and sounds that were like me thinking to my self but they werent me. They worked like telepathy, which is was I thought it was at first. But How this whole thing message relates to the information on this site is during the time I was creating the atmosphere for the disease I was depressed and I was obsessed with thinking without thinking. For some strange reason I had theorized that not thinking about the things I was cognatively thinking about would lead me to a promised land due to my intermingly with and attempts to comprehend all the things I had learned on my soul search. I believe a mind is a terrible thing to waste and I really did somethings to mess up my mind that were completly irrational and they were to me the embryo of me having schizophrenia. I have come a long way now and even though I hear strange things and see things in my mind I dont react to them I believe they have spiritual origens. I dont think science and spirituality are separate things anymore. To me since the God created the universe every thing is spiritual down to the last molucule. Who knows maybe this could be another key to finding a cure to this puzzling disease.

a heightened state of self-awareness - Daniel - Aug 26th 2008

Can can relate to what everyone is saying. I suspect that this "diease" runs in my family. My family is full of highly intellegent people. What this "diease" brings is a heightened state of self-awareness. "I think therefor I am".

What they medication does for me is bring my mind down a level. My mind is so high up in the clouds thinking abtract theories and the such is sometimes I conentrate to much on that. After my medication I suddenly became deeply religious like something was drawing me to chuch and its just the right thing to do. I have near photographic memory

Excactly - Peter M. Hoffmann - Jun 20th 2008
I was diagnosed in nov of 2001 I new I was sick from the time I was very young. I am 32 now and using my veterans benifits to coplete may associates in cunlinary arts. I love going to school and am getting 4.0 All my instructors believe I am an sevant but I want to simplfy my life. I won the Achievment against the Odds Award along with 1500dollars of scholarships. I am a guest speaker in the following classes(pscyhololgy, Race and Ethnic diversity, abmormal psychology, and the mental health nursing classes.) I speak about my life and how scizophrenia has affected me. I alwyas get a standing ovation when I complete my speech. Come and help me teach these young people what is really going on.

Intelligence in schizophrenia - marlo - Apr 21st 2008
I have this thing called schizophrenia...when I let people know I have it they respond with remarks that I must be highly intelligent. Well, I kinda feel strange writing this but I do have a broad expansion in learning and receiving information-ever since diagnosed with this I've come to understand why I've always felt different then others...stranger than others I may add! Strange meaning seeing things differently. I'm an Artist- I paint and draw...write poetry and stories...play intruments and songwrite, produce, audio engineer, web design, also study astronomy , computer science, and law. I've majored in college in music. I'm 30 years old and a very happy schizophrenic woman of spainard and russain heritage. I run my own company.- Some say I'm a role model for people with schizophrenia. Don't get me wrong...I do live with the side effects of my medication. Prolixin.- It's a dream come true medicine for me. I have my moments of dizziness , other than that I'm cool. I'm down with the reality of my disease. I know it's all in my brain's function . I pray for all others to find their peace within the confusion they may feel with having this thang we and all have and do suffer from. Peace and Many wishes for all schizophrenics to find the right medicine for them and it is important to fully clear your mind of all myths of having it. Love!!!

Kruthi, thanks so much! I had so little idea about this disease but thanks to you I now know something. And I find it very interesting. Alekh draws so well and is so brilliant just as these patients are. So, I believe they are showing the correct thing only in Bidaai.