Ragini..........needs to do more

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pragalbha

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Posted: 16 years ago

I am sorely disappointed with Ragini!

Ok, I agree that is is very appreciable that she respects her parents so much and cannot do anything against them and does not have any trouble in hammering that point home to Ranveer again and again and again......................but if she really loves Ranveer then should she not put some effort from her side too instead of completely pushing things off on to him??

Just like Ranveer, why can't she try and convince her mother? Why does she sit quiet and expect Ranveer to do all the work? Not liking this part of her character.

Also, in the episode from a couple of days ago when they meet in the night, she said that she will never go aginst her maa-bauji. But while her maa was still screaming NO....NO for this proposal, Ragini had no problem in getting ready to welcome Ranveer and party who had come to talk the proposal out. OK, we can argue that she agreed because her dad said it was OK, but it was still very much a fact that her mom was saying NO! So, then what happened to respecting her mom's wishes??

I thought that dialog of her's was very hypocritical!

And then today's dialog................."Mei samjhoongi ki Ranveer ji ka saath mere kismat mei nahi........."

Why??????? Why can' t you do something, why can't you try to convince your mom? Why can't you muster some courage and atleast do something from your side as a tribute to your love for Ranveer???

I just want her to show more guts, more support and more respect to Ranveer and his love!!!

Btw, totally loving Ranveer's character currently😊

Anybody else feel the same??

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Jiya

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Posted: 16 years ago

i agree with you abt her needing to take a stand. i have always maintained that ranveer's love is stronger than hers becoz he has always tried to flow against the current for the sake of his love and truth, no matter how inconvenient. even now, the poor guy tried his best but ragini is kinda waiting for things to fall in place. she hasnt moved a muscle to help or support ranveer. She needs to tackle her mother too like ranveer is trying with his mother. even sadhna is trying to talk some sense into these ppl, everyone but ragini.

I also think we need a few more appreciative words for Ranveer from her. He tells her how lucky he feels, but what abt her luck?? This guy has proven the strength of his love again and again, he deserves a few kind words from her more than jjust the same old raag abt parents.....

i think in this forum we are so used to saying poor ragini and expecting ranveer to move heaven and earth....hardly seems fair.

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AreYaar

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Posted: 16 years ago

I agree that Ragini needs to be more pro-active as well....so far, Ranvir is the one who's been doing most of the running around trying to get things fixed.

But I want to know....what exactly IS it that she'd be able to do right now??? When has she ever revolted against her parents? And can she confidently refutely her Mom's argument about Vasu not treating her properly in that house?? Kaushi is raising very valid points which NO ONE In the Sharma house....including Mamaji and Malti (two of Ragi's biggest supporters) can refute.....Malti's only got one solution....to run away....LOL....

The reason Ranvir is having to run around more is cuz it's HIS Mom who is the root of the entire problem! Half of Ragi's mom's fears would instantly be alleviated if Vasu accepts Ragi....and everyone knows that.....the color isue ofcourse will continue to hang over everyone's heads forever in this show....it's the basic theme after all....LOL.

So I don't see what argument Ragi can put in front of her Mom right now....her Mom KNOWS Ranvir is a great guy....her Mom KNOWS they both love each other a lot....but NONE of that is going to make a difference to her and they all know it.

That said, I think she should atleast be a support for Ranvir to lean on when he feels despair....and not be so negative herself that she pulls his spirits down as well....THAT is something that is in her hands that she could work on.

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Jiya

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Posted: 16 years ago

Anu, she can try and convince her mom that they won't marry unless vasu agrees and after that, if she does have trouble in that house, that ranveer and sadhna's love will make her stronger. That she wants to give her life a fair chance. She can also try and make her mom understand that she wont be happy in another guy's house and what if there are comparisons and trouble there becoz of her color. She can try and convince her mom that ranveer's love is goinng to be her strength and life source just like prakashchand is kaushi's....she can at least TRY!!! like we are expecting Ranveer to, then why not Ragini??? She needs to get over being a wet blanket right now....

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pragalbha

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Posted: 16 years ago

Well said, jiya!

nureat01....................agree with you mostly but there are a few things Ragini and the rest of the family can say...........................

For one, Ragini can remind her mom that the same Rajvansh household has another dark-colored daughter-in-law .........choti maa. And she can also convince her mom that choti maa will always hold Ragini's interest at heart.

Next, Kaushalya's huge problem is with Sadhana! She cannot think behind the possibility that Ragini will be compared with Sadhana constantly but Kaushalya seems to forget the wonderful sisterly love that Sadhana and Ragini share! What better than to have a sister that you love so much as a co-sister?? It that not better than having a unknown person as a co-sister with whom there are higher chances of ill-treatment? Ragini can put this argument before her mom.

Next, Ranveer and the whole parivaar loves Ragini. Its not like the mother-in-law is the only person in the house that you deal with......having the support of the whole family is no small thing. With their support Ragini can definitely work on Vasu. And she can convince her mom that she has the courage and the intelligence to do that.

Besides Ragini, the rest of the family can convince Kaushalya that unfortunately Ragini's future is really insecure with all those broken engagements and rejections! Is it not easier to bear a little problem with a lot of support than to give up and live a miserable lonely life?

Also, one thing I dislike in Kaushalya is that she seems to forget that Sadhana has a very sad marriage currenly with a husband like Alekh! Alekh is a gem of a person but atleast for now he needs attention like a child and Sadhana really does not have the liberty to treat him as a husband. And instead of giving all her support to Sadhana she always comes out as feeling jealous of Sadhana on her daughter's behalf........that leaves a bad taste in my mouth!

Edited by pragalbha - 16 years ago

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ANJANA

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Posted: 16 years ago

You are Right I too felt Ragini should atleast Try and speak To her Mother about Ragvir Realtion ,Let the outcome be anything Atleast She would have tried ,Atleast on Monday they should Show Her trying.

See Ranvir atleast Tried and he will Definitely See The outcome Next week With the help Of Alekh.Yesturday He was Unable to Convince Vasu But he atleast Tried.

The main Point Is Trying which Ragini has Not done even Once

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AreYaar

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Posted: 16 years ago

@Jiya: That is what I'm trying to say.....all of those arguments will be instantly rejected by Kaushi with the Vasu trumpcard that she has....because Vasu's actions are there in front of everyone to see....it is not speculation on Kaushi's part. That said, yes there is no harm in trying....and that is what is lacking in Ragi....she is yet to speak up clearly about Ranvir to her parents ever since Ranvir's confessed his love to her. I don't know if that is a part of the characterization or circumstances or a story stretching tactic....LOL.

@Pragalbha: Those are great points. I think it would be great if the rest of the family raised that point to Kaushi that after all the rejections Ragi has had to deal with, she is very insecure and this would be a final blow of sorts....

However, the color issue is something that is not going to be resolved by something as easy as making Mamiji realize the bond b/w Ragi-Sadi....that is obviously there for everyone to see....Mamiji is more conscious of society....not Sadhna....Sadhna just gets pulled into the mix cuz society will invariably compare her fairness to Ragi's duskiness...THAT is Mamiji's fear....So as a mother, she is being selfish about her own child's interests and seperating Sadi from that.....which is not justifiable in anyway ofcourse.....but it is in character.....that has always been her biggest fear....cuz she resented Sadi even when the sisters were together at their maayka.....so it will do nothing to alleviate these fears for her to be told that Sadi will support Ragi at the Rajvansh house.

All of the other points are valid arguments to be raised no doubt though.

But Ragi has been a defeatist by nature for quite a while as well.....much quicker to give up than Ranvir....so that adds to her inability to be pro-active as a character anyways.....within the realm of what she saw she could do, she's done that much.

Edited by nureat01 - 16 years ago

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Jiya

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Posted: 16 years ago

agree with you Anu, but just like we have wanted and seen Ranveer grow as a charachter, from a pampered boy to a man who stands by his principles and beliefs, Ragini needs to grow too. Yes, life has been unfair and tough, but here is a chance at happiness, are you going to harp on how nthing worked in the past so this wont either or r u going to try and give it your best shot. Even if kaushi shoots down every argument jst like vasu is doing, she should still TRY.......Just like Ranveer, that's how she will truly be a partner to Ranveer. We were discussing what kinda partner will Ranveer be, here is an example of what kinda partner Ragini can be, someone who gives up when the going gets tuff or someone who tries her best to at least resolve the situation

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pragalbha

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: nureat01
....so that adds to her inability to be pro-active as a character anyways.....within the realm of what she saw she could do, she's done that much.

Which is why I want the character to start maturing, gaining confidence and become strong! 😊

This would be a golden opportunity for her to shed her inhibitions! She has the love of a person like Ranveer and the support of her Dad and other unexpected sources like her bhabhi and grandma!

If she cannot garner the courage to turn the tide in her favor tnow then when will she?

If she cannot even convince her own mom then how can she ever convince and change Vasu's opinion about her if it so happens that she ends up marrying Ranveer without Vasu's all-out approval??

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AreYaar

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Posted: 16 years ago

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No one said Ragi is perfect either, Jiya. And we all want to see Ragi grow as a character as well. But her and Ranvir have to chart different courses for their respective growths....Ranvir has had it easy all his life....this is the first time he's facing challenges but he's braving them very well so all the kudos to him for that.

Ragi has faced rejection, despair, negativity all her life....and I'm not putting this forth as an excuse that makes it ok for her to just sit around moping all the time WAITING for things to get ok....NO! I'm not saying that....

All I'm saying is that while I may not like Ragi's negative/defeatist disposition, I can understand it given the circumstances in her life.

As for the way she should grow as a character, I think that will mainly happen after her marriage to Ranvir cuz his love and support has to heal many many years of rejection and pain for her.....I'm sure we'll see a stronger, more vibrant Ragi emerging soon enough.

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