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anjs

@anjs

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Posted: 10 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

Wow, now people expect Gopi to respect Mansi? 😲 I mean, yeah, from a 3rd person perspective we all can give lectures about how Gopi should respect Mansi for bringing up her daughters, but if anyone puts themselves in Gopi's shoes and actually tries to understand what she's going through, who here would actually respect Mansi? In Gopi's POV, Mansi replaced her in Ahem's affections. Mansi stole her daughters' love and affection. Isn't it natural for Gopi to feel bitter and resent Mansi? Wouldn't any of us do that in her position? Forget blaming Ahem, we all might blame Ahem and even hate him for what he did, but would any of us actually respect Mansi? We would also hate her for having a part in our marriage breaking up. It's natural and it's human.

It's downright ridiculous to expect Gopi or any of the Modis to respect Mansi, particularly Gopi. No one in her position would feel respect or gratitude to the woman who replaced her in her husband and daughters' affection.

Gopi claims to be a mahaan woman, doesnt she...how many times has she let Radha go scot free, despite what all Radha did to Meera...just count the numbers n tell me...

and here Mansi has just looked after her daughters...so ideally, if she is mahaan, than she shud respect Mansi...

and its not only Mansi's fault, that Ahem is with her...mostly its Ahem's decision...and secondly it is Gopi's short comings, that pushed her husband away from her...but despite all that, the bigger person at fault wud be Ahem...not Mansi...but Gopi will very nicely accept Ahem...but Mansi will be insulted time and again...

i dont believe a woman, putting all the blame on another woman, and freeing the man of any blame...

and if Gopi doesnt show that gratitude towards Mansi, than her drama all these years of being Mahaan is all FAKE than...

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anjs

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Posted: 10 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

OMG, comparing Mansi to Nirbhaya is downright ridiculous. 🤢

I will say this to any man or woman who falls in love with a married man or woman. Prepare for the consequences! If the person you fell in love with hasn't divorced their spouse, there's a reason they didn't do it! If someone truly does not love their spouse anymore, they will divorce them no matter what, particularly if they fell in love with you again.

The mere fact that Ahem did not divorce Gopi for 10 years, nor did he ever have any sexual relations with Mansi, proves that he still loves Gopi, no matter what he says. How can Mansi fall in love with a person like that? People are saying Gopi has no self-respect, I say Mansi doesn't.

Forget love. Before love happens, a relationship has to be formed. No one "falls in love" out of nowhere. They had to have been in a relationship first before love came. Why form a relationship with a married man in the first place? If Mansi fell in love with Ahem, she had to have had a relationship with him first, and we know she knew about his wife being in jail, so it's not like she didn't know about Gopi. If Mansi had self respect, she'd have told Ahem to divorce his wife before dating her.

No, instead she acted as his friend, she acted as the nanny of his daughters, all the while trying to make him fall in love with her. Ahem himself said he and Mansi never had a loving relationship, let alone a sexual one. He only announced his engagement to Mansi to spite Gopi, and Mansi knew that. Mansi doesn't care if Ahem doesn't love her. She wants to marry him for ulterior motives. If she truly cared for him, she'd tell him that he doesn't love her and she can't stay with someone like that.

Mansi is not innocent in the least. She entered into a relationship with a married man with eyes open, and if she's paying the consequences now, it's her fault. Marriage is a lifelong commitment, and for as long as Ahem does not divorce Gopi, he belongs to Gopi only (if she accepts him back that is). Mansi has no place in his life, neither does she deserve any pity.

well, your post sounded like the one, where all the blame lies on a woman, even if the man is to be blamed...so its but natural, that i will compare to such horrendous event, that showed how much women are dominated in our country n treated unfairly despite being victims of circumstances...

the way you are saying she acted as a nanny, and she made him fall in love...makes me feel that we have been watching different serials...its just once that she questioned him bt not marrying her till date...and the reason she cud directly talk bt marriage was cause sometime Ahem mustve confessed that he loves her...till now nothing has been shown that says that she trapped him in the relationship...

its Ahem who has given her a place in their lives, and given Meera the right to call her Mom...infact he even questioned Vidya bt why she doesnt refer to Mansi as her mother...

yes, you are right...force gopi down Ahem's throat, no matter if that makes him gag to death...this whole thing is so disgusting n hideous...and m sure the cv's are gonna do the same thing in future...

after all the cv's are as unfair as the MODI's

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: anjs

Gopi claims to be a mahaan woman, doesnt she...how many times has she let Radha go scot free, despite what all Radha did to Meera...just count the numbers n tell me...

and here Mansi has just looked after her daughters...so ideally, if she is mahaan, than she shud respect Mansi...

and its not only Mansi's fault, that Ahem is with her...mostly its Ahem's decision...and secondly it is Gopi's short comings, that pushed her husband away from her...but despite all that, the bigger person at fault wud be Ahem...not Mansi...but Gopi will very nicely accept Ahem...but Mansi will be insulted time and again...

i dont believe a woman, putting all the blame on another woman, and freeing the man of any blame...

and if Gopi doesnt show that gratitude towards Mansi, than her drama all these years of being Mahaan is all FAKE than...

What should Gopi do? Grovel at her feet and say thank you a million times? Would that satisfy you? Gopi hasn't done or said anything to Mansi. Had I been in Gopi's place, I'd have been far more resentful of Mansi. I wouldn't have let Ahem go scot free either, but I wouldn't have been easy on Mansi at all.

I disagree that it's mainly Ahem's fault for having extra-marital relationship. It's equally Ahem and Mansi's fault. Now, Mansi didn't know Ahem was married, she'd have been innocent completely, but she knew he was married, so she definitely shares half the blame.

I agree that Ahem and Gopi's marriage had issues and Gopi also did many wrong things to drive her husband away. However, only Ahem and Gopi have the right to work on their marriage issues. No third person had a right to enter the scene like Mansi. Mansi will always be an outsider no matter what, because she has no claim on Ahem. Until and unless Ahem divorces Gopi, he belongs to her. Just as Gopi should not have taken the law into her hands, neither can Ahem or Mansi. Ahem is legally married to Gopi, so no court would support his relationship with Mansi.

If Gopi accepts Ahem, it's her choice. Sure, that may mean she has no self respect or that she's inviting trouble again, but if she's prepared for Ahem as a husband again, it's her choice and no third person has a right to intervene. Ahem belonged to Gopi before he ever belonged to Mansi.

Don't bring up the Radha example. Despite any instance of Gopi forgiving her, she ended up killing Radha so Gopi lost the right to call herself mahaan, and neither has she been mahaan since the leap. The new Gopi is one who can speak for herself, and she has no need to show respect for Mansi. There is no need to show respect for a woman entering willfully into a relationship with a married man.

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kavita

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: anjs

u know what wud have been an ideal n interesting track...

Gopi and Kokila, trying to cajole Ahem, into coming back...him refusing, due to his anger or ego...

than Gopi and Kokila, just let him be...if he wants to be with Mansi, than tricking him n forcing him, is all such a cheap thing to do, no matter what their intentions were...had they respected Mansi and accepted her, as she was Ahem's choice, than i wud have applauded them, as that proves them to be better humans...

Mansi deserves her respect, cause Mansi looked after Gopi's daughters as Mansi's own...she didnt behave with them as a step mother...and clearly Meera loves her and Vidya also respects her, so surely Mansi must have atleast loved them, if not given them traditional values...but loving someone else's child as ur own, is also a big thing...

so for that Mansi deseves respect from Gopi n Kokila and ofcourse all Modi's...

but poor woman, has just been tricked by them all...and insulted by Ahem...hope after today's episode she takes a stand n move back to mumbai... clearly Ahem doesnt deserve her love...

@bold: Exactly, Ahem is a loser. He is a typical businessman who knows only to use and throw. That's it! He can never love anybody in his life. When Mansi showed her concern to Ahem in the hospital, he insulted her. He could not belong to Anita or Gopi then what will he belong to Mansi? Gopi has done a lot of mistakes. She gave more importance to others than her immediate family but that does not reduce Ahem's faults.

Actually, Gopi was not involved in that drama. No one even knew that she was faking. Nikki, had given a very good example of a boy crying wolf-wolf. That is exactly Kokila did.

As for loving Mansi, it is Meera who does that. Vidya is double-minded and indecisive. She never called Mansi as her mom.

Tbh, the CV's have not given much dialogues to her.

As for Kokila, she cannot always make people do whatever she wants.

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: anjs

well, your post sounded like the one, where all the blame lies on a woman, even if the man is to be blamed...so its but natural, that i will compare to such horrendous event, that showed how much women are dominated in our country n treated unfairly despite being victims of circumstances...

the way you are saying she acted as a nanny, and she made him fall in love...makes me feel that we have been watching different serials...its just once that she questioned him bt not marrying her till date...and the reason she cud directly talk bt marriage was cause sometime Ahem mustve confessed that he loves her...till now nothing has been shown that says that she trapped him in the relationship...

its Ahem who has given her a place in their lives, and given Meera the right to call her Mom...infact he even questioned Vidya bt why she doesnt refer to Mansi as her mother...

yes, you are right...force gopi down Ahem's throat, no matter if that makes him gag to death...this whole thing is so disgusting n hideous...and m sure the cv's are gonna do the same thing in future...

after all the cv's are as unfair as the MODI's

This is the problem with so many Indian woman. They are ready to forgive women their crimes just because they are women, when they are not ready to forgive men the same mistakes.

Mansi is no victim. Nirbhaya was a victim and no one can dispute that, but people do have values when it comes to marital relationships. Maybe you think any type of relationship is permeable, even extra-marital ones, but my values are not the same.

Where have I said Ahem is not at fault? I am not dwelling on Ahem's part of the blame because this discussion is not about Ahem. It's about Mansi and how injustice is being done to her.

I hate people who enter into extra-marital relationships, whether they are MAN or WOMAN, so do not begin any feminism rant about how woman are always victims, blah blah blah. Women can make mistakes just as much as men. If a woman enters into extra-marital relationships, she is just as guilty as a man.

If you are willing to say Mansi is innocent, then say the same for every single person out there who breaks marriages and enters into an extra-marital relationship, whether they are man or woman.

I hate Ahem just as much as I hate Mansi, but if Gopi accepts Ahem back, what can I do? She's his wife and it's her choice. That doesn't mean I think Ahem is innocent. Of course Ahem is guilty, but as his wife only Gopi has the choice to forgive him. Mansi really has no say on the matter.

Never did I say Mansi trapped Ahem. I only said she entered into the relationship with eyes WIDE OPEN so she should be prepared for whatever consequences happen. She should know her relationship with Ahem is in danger once his wife is released from jail, and if she never expected Gopi to come back, then she's the stupidest character in the show.

So before anyone tells Gopi to respect Mansi, put yourself in her shoes and ask yourself if you'd be respectful to the woman who has a relationship with YOUR husband.

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sweet_tania

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Posted: 10 years ago

#26

mansi loves ahem and daughter ...i agree... but several times i have seen during episodes that when meera/ahem/vidya do misbehave with gopi,at that moment she used to give crook smiles/smirks .i mean she feels very happy when they all misbehave with gopi. why???????? why it gives her satisfaction??

gopi is no one for her. if she consider gopi as her sautan than i must say gopi should have more hateness towards her as whatever is circumtances now but she is ahem's wife till now. still gopi does not feel happy/proud when ahem scold mansi today's episode. yes she feels sad when her husband disrespect her but she never gives that smirks of hateness for mansi.

this is basic difference between mansi and gopi. that mansi feels happy/proud for gopi's bad situation which gopi don't.

gopi never gives preference to her own family/daughters. but preference or without preference , stay together or live apart, fact will always remain alive " gopi is still alive, she is still ahem's wife and she will always remain meera/vidya's mother because she loves them. whether she give them preference or not ,still she has all rights because this relation of mother/wife is blessing for every woman by god and gopi got this by her kanhaji".

If we talk about mansi than, why she never expect secure relationship for herself in last 10 years??? if ahem not wanted to give her life security with marriage than just because of love she is with him. why she never thought that what is reason that ahem don't want to marry her? this all are very basic questions which should come in mind being woman. Every woman in india wants secure/legal relationship thats why women want to settle with marriage procedure. Why ahem doesn't marry her till now? why she push herself in insecure relationship? only because of love?

than must say if you are living in society than you must follow rules of society. if single woman is staying with Married man than for indian society that tag of baharwali will be always there. india is not that much forward country so this drawback for mansi .

now if gopi and ahem rekindle their love and there is bright possibilities of it as they were live as husband/wife, parents of children so itne jagde kar k bhi pati patni ek sath ho gaye to mansi kya force karegi apne one sided love and 10 saal ka vasta dekar?? kisi ka pyar kya daan mai paya jata hai??

mansi is really foolish woman who invest her golden 10 years behind that man who never loves her,who never tries to give her secure relationship by wedlock, who just allow her to stay in life as good friend and take care of her daughter. i feel pity for her .mansi doesn't deserve this life but she choose it for herself after knowing all reality.

Edited by sweet_tania - 10 years ago

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kavita

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Posted: 10 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: anjs

just mouthing the words a few times, isnt enough...she has been rude more often than the times she said that she respects Mansi...

and never once did she tell Kokila that they shud respect Mansi for what she has done...Kokila kept interfering n Gopi kept quite...

Sorry to differ from you in this. Gopi said this to Kokila that Mansi has every right over Ahem and the girls as she took care of the girls in her absence but it is Kokila who is adamant. She tells Gopi that she should fight for her right.

Cajoling and coaxing Ahem is fully Kokila's idea. Not Gopi's. When she was ready to divorce Ahem when he was ready to marry her own sister, then why will she come between Ahem and Mansi? It is all Koki's work & she is not the person to listen to anyone.

Edited by sharoon3210 - 10 years ago

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: sweet_tania
mansi loves ahem and daughter ...i agree... but several times i have seen during episodes that when meera/ahem/vidya do misbehave with gopi,at that moment she used to give crook smiles/smirks .i mean she feels very happy when they all misbehave with gopi. why???????? why it gives her satisfaction??
gopi is no one for her. if she consider gopi as her sautan than i must say gopi should have more hateness towards her as whatever is circumtances now but she is ahem's wife till now. still gopi does not feel happy/proud when ahem scold mansi today's episode. yes she feels sad when her husband disrespect her but she never gives that smirks of hateness for mansi.
this is basic difference between mansi and gopi. that mansi feels happy/proud for gopi's bad situation which gopi don't.
gopi never gives preference to her own family/daughters. but preference or without preference , stay together or live apart, fact will always remain alive " gopi is still alive, she is still ahem's wife and she will always remain meera/vidya's mother because she loves them. whether she give them preference or not ,still she has all rights because this relation of mother/wife is blessing for every woman by god and gopi got this by her kanhaji".

If we talk about mansi than, why she never expect secure relationship for herself in last 10 years??? if ahem not wanted to give her life security with marriage than just because of love she is with him. why she never thought that what is reason that ahem don't want to marry her? this all are very basic questions which should come in mind being woman. Every woman in india wants secure/legal relationship thats why women want to settle with marriage procedure. Why ahem doesn't marry her till now? why she push herself in insecure relationship? only because of love?
than must say if you are living in society than you must follow rules of society. if single woman is staying with Married man than for indian society that tag of baharwali will be always there. india is not that much forward country so this drawback for mansi .

now if gopi and ahem rekindle their love and there is bright possibilities of it as they were live as husband/wife, parents of children so itne jagde kar k bhi pati patni ek sath ho gaye to mansi kya force karegi apne one sided love and 10 saal ka vasta dekar?? kisi ka pyar kya daan mai paya jata hai??
mansi is really foolish woman who invest her golden 10 years behind that man who never loves her,who never tries to give her secure relationship by wedlock, who just allow her to stay in life as good friend and take care of her daughter. i feel pity for her .mansi doesn't deserve this life but she choose it for herself after knowing all reality.

You have said my thoughts 100%! 👏👏👏

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grao

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Posted: 10 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: sharoon3210

Sorry to differ from you in this. Gopi said this to Kokila that Mansi has every right over Ahem and the girls as she took care of the girls in her absence but it is Kokila who is adamant. She tells Gopi that she should fight for her right.

Cajoling and coaxing Ahem is fully Kokila's idea. Not Gopi's. When she was ready to divorce Ahem when he was ready to marry her own sister, then why will she come between Ahem and Mansi? It is all Koki's work & she is not the person to listen to anyone.

Agree.. in fact Gopi said that she will let them live as he has moved on...