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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

to keep 'punishing' Gopi but yet expect her to have stayed in MM 8 years ago😕

Today it was clear that Kokila still is punishing Gopi.. She admitted as much to Baa. I can understand her grief and anger too but isn't her expectation that Gopi take all that c*** and still stick to MM a tad unrealistic?🥱

So Kokila expects that Gopi should have stayed even if she was ordered not to enter the mandir, not take part in any activities with the family, she will not be talked with, she will be ignored, taunted and scolded for no mistakes of her own but she should have stayed on bearing all this because this is the 'punishment' for being in an accident? How is that valid?

When the kids eaten the naphthalene balls as sugar, would Kokila have taken responsibility? It is fortunate that Gopi caught the error before the kids decided to experiment. Shouldn't the same leeway be given to Gopi too?

Harini... Kokila is of the opinon that death of Meera only mattered to her son and herself..What abt Gopi.. she is not even thinking abt a mother losing a child... if Gopi would have stayed there, Kokila would have made her life hell.. It was a good decision Gopi went off from MM..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kokila just lives in her old world and she is so lucky to have her son as her puppet! I don't know what Kokila wants. I don't think she wanted Hoping to stay all that happen that night was a clear yet unclear statement for Hoping to leave. She knew Gopi wasn't dumb but smart and she easily understood what her 'Maaji' wanted..so that's why she didn't stop her now. I guess she likes being stupid!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Baa did specifically say today that Koki had been punishing Gopi from that moment and it is time to move on.

That is Baa's conclusion of things ...that Kokila's cold behaviour is a punishment to Gopi . Doesn't mean that Kokila started with 'punishments' and that Gopi ran away coz of them . She is just behaving naturally , not pretending in her coldness and indifference . Baa , Hetal want the former warmth from her which she refuses to pretend to . As her grandchild's death has left her cold and empty . Now if the lack of former warmth is regarded as a punishment by Baa and if she expects that 8 years is a sufficient period to get a grip its her conclusion , Kokila told her today that its not for her , for her its a lifetime thing . When she wants no personal equation with Gopi , where question of giving any punishment comes . Hetal's ambiguous statements mean nothing confirmation wise . Whatever i said r not at all assumptions , thats actually shown . Kokila HAS said whatever she has adjusted is for Vidya , she wants no personal equation with Gopi . It indeed WAS shown that one blame game took place and Gopi did accept in that very blame game . Then the next thing shown was she living a life in Somgadh . Where was it shown that she endured punishments and anything more than that . But it indeed is shown that for 8 years Modis did not know of their blood and that even today it is being said that their blood will be brought to them when she is more bigger in age . So whether she ran away tired of punishments is a surmise but the fact that Modis and Vidya endured a punishment for no fault of their own , for they would have loved Vidya and Vidya deserved her family and her father is a fact . So yes , lets agree to disagree on this one .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kokila is very clever with words. Whenever Hetal or Baa advise her, she says "maaf karna baa/mota bhabhi" and proceeds to do as she chooses. Now I want Gopi to say, "Maaf karna Maaji" and go everywhere Kokila has forbidden her to go, the temple, kitchen, Ahem's room. She should go to Kokila's room and rest on her bed!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am New to this forum as i started watching this just a month ago as watched all this leap episodes ... as per Kokila I feel the same way Vidya feels as she is scolding her for nothing , I agree that Gopi should inform them that they had a new member in her family , If she wants to hide her location that would also be fine . After watching this pre leap that Ahem n Kokila loved her because of the Child ... Kokila indeed said that she left the house at her own will BUT they could have stop her not even a single person stopped her Why n How could she came back ??? Kokila starts blame game destroyed her son's life rather then she could be a bridge between her son n DIL and told them to go for the search of the child , they showed rich people just after listening from police u started blaming ??? and result --- broken couple who needs each other the most to heal there wound.
This is a real social issue that if any misshaping happened in the house people starts their blame game and ultimately went out on a person who is either weak or in a self guilt . Just shattered the broken soul of that person, in that situation people react either leave the house, committed suicide or Live rest of the life with the burden that they committed a crime . Irrespective of that person actually needs all the care , love and affection.
In case of Gopi I can feel she is very strong from inside she left her so called richness and togetherness with a burden of loosing her child n that point of time pregnant too , she took care of herself , she composed herself and was living a dignified life . And after coming back also she is opposing most of the wrongs like not entering the Temple ... and went and prayed , for kitchen she went and cook as far as her husband is concerned she can't accept him as it is as she knows he was about to move in his life forgetting everything and accidentally she came back in his life and she only saw an anger and push from his side . they are connected through Vidya .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smilydear

I am New to this forum as i started watching this just a month ago as watched all this leap episodes ... as per Kokila I feel the same way Vidya feels as she is scolding her for nothing , I agree that Gopi should inform them that they had a new member in her family , If she wants to hide her location that would also be fine . After watching this pre leap that Ahem n Kokila loved her because of the Child ... Kokila indeed said that she left the house at her own will BUT they could have stop her not even a single person stopped her Why n How could she came back ??? Kokila starts blame game destroyed her son's life rather then she could be a bridge between her son n DIL and told them to go for the search of the child , they showed rich people just after listening from police u started blaming ??? and result --- broken couple who needs each other the most to heal there wound.

This is a real social issue that if any misshaping happened in the house people starts their blame game and ultimately went out on a person who is either weak or in a self guilt . Just shattered the broken soul of that person, in that situation people react either leave the house, committed suicide or Live rest of the life with the burden that they committed a crime . Irrespective of that person actually needs all the care , love and affection.
In case of Gopi I can feel she is very strong from inside she left her so called richness and togetherness with a burden of loosing her child n that point of time pregnant too , she took care of herself , she composed herself and was living a dignified life . And after coming back also she is opposing most of the wrongs like not entering the Temple ... and went and prayed , for kitchen she went and cook as far as her husband is concerned she can't accept him as it is as she knows he was about to move in his life forgetting everything and accidentally she came back in his life and she only saw an anger and push from his side . they are connected through Vidya .



Welcome to the forum😊
and very well articulated⭐️
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Simi0808

Kokila is very clever with words. Whenever Hetal or Baa advise her, she says "maaf karna baa/mota bhabhi" and proceeds to do as she chooses. Now I want Gopi to say, "Maaf karna Maaji" and go everywhere Kokila has forbidden her to go, the temple, kitchen, Ahem's room. She should go to Kokila's room and rest on her bed!



😆 @ Bold.. THat would be hilarious to see..😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Baa did specifically say today that Koki had been punishing Gopi from that moment and it is time to move on.


That is Baa's conclusion of things ...that Kokila's cold behaviour is a punishment to Gopi . Doesn't mean that Kokila started with 'punishments' and that Gopi ran away coz of them . She is just behaving naturally , not pretending in her coldness and indifference . Baa , Hetal want the former warmth from her which she refuses to pretend to . As her grandchild's death has left her cold and empty . Now if the lack of former warmth is regarded as a punishment by Baa and if she expects that 8 years is a sufficient period to get a grip its her conclusion , Kokila told her today that its not for her , for her its a lifetime thing . When she wants no personal equation with Gopi , where question of giving any punishment comes . Hetal's ambiguous statements mean nothing confirmation wise . Whatever i said r not at all assumptions , thats actually shown . Kokila HAS said whatever she has adjusted is for Vidya , she wants no personal equation with Gopi . It indeed WAS shown that one blame game took place and Gopi did accept in that very blame game . Then the next thing shown was she living a life in Somgadh . Where was it shown that she endured punishments and anything more than that . But it indeed is shown that for 8 years Modis did not know of their blood and that even today it is being said that their blood will be brought to them when she is more bigger in age . So whether she ran away tired of punishments is a surmise but the fact that Modis and Vidya endured a punishment for no fault of their own , for they would have loved Vidya and Vidya deserved her family and her father is a fact . So yes , lets agree to disagree on this one .



Gopi ran away 8 years ago - Fact
Gopi hid about Vidya's pregnancy - Fact
Koki and Ahem blamed her and accused her of murder - Fact
Koki and Ahem blame Gopi still for her mistake from 8 years back - Fact

Blame started and Gopi moved out after the first time she was accused - Assumption.

Gopi has photos of the day she lost Meera. It would not have been possible if she walked out on the same day. She remembers that day most from the FBs because she was most affected that day. Not because she walked out the same day.

Kokila and Ahem were punished - Fact
They were punished with no fault from their side - Assumption/Opinion.

Koki and Ahem went overboard in their grief and caused the person who never ever walked out of their life even when she was subjected to extreme conditions walk out. Gopi's perseverance and her ability to stick with her family even if they subject her to all kinds of abuse is a known fact. She has put her neck out for her family and stayed with them even when she was physically and mentally abused. So the above line that Modis were punished due to no fault of their own is just an assumption and is not based on fact.

So yup.. Lets agree to disagree😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Blame started and Gopi moved out after the first time she was accused - Assumption.


How is it assumption . No episode of her staying on and enduring blames was shown .Was it ? Did i miss them ? Genuinely asking .

Kokila and Ahem were punished - Fact
They were punished with no fault from their side - Assumption/Opinion.


How is a kid being kept from them without their knowledge their fault and how is this an assumption ? Their love for their own is a fact , the kid being kept from them is a fact , so where question of assuming anything comes in .

Whether she had endurance capability before does not give her right to keep kid away like this now . Blame games on her have nothing to do with the kid .

Also one can never say one went overboard in the grief of a dead child and that 8 years is a perfect time to heal . It affects different people differently . Depth of grief can never be judged or quantified . I will not belittle Gopi's grief by saying she seems fine , she actually had a life and was smiling . Similiarly i will not judge Ahem's grief by imposing any time limit or critiquing his anger towards Gopi . I was all set to blast him if he had thrown her out as a human being but if she had stayed on and he had privately stopped talking to her i would not have judged him , no .

What Gopi did amounts yo legal kidnap , fact . Facts as i see , r that after witnessing accidental death of Meera , Modis find out they have missed out on 8 years of seeing their own blood grow , due to decisions made by the mother alone when they were not just her decisions to make . I only go by what i see .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You have misunderstood Kools.

Kokila and Ahem were kept away from Vidya is a fact but they drove Gopi to do that vanishing act is also a fact.

What was shown was clear. From the time Meera fell down, Kokila became accuser, judge and executor all in one and pronounced Gopi guilty of killing her own daughter.

There was no trial, no alternative explanations asked for nor was any leeway given to the mother who was bent in grief herself.

Trial and punishment was expulsion from daily life and being accused of killing her own child. Gopi ran because she saw no way out.

If Kokila and Ahem were punished by not knowing about Vidya, Gopi was punished too. She took her punishment and decided to make something out of herself. That is all the difference.

What Gopi did may be illegal but what Modis did was also illegal. Abuse is not legal in any court. The fact is that in their grief they pronounced Gopi guilty and isolated her in the house. As seen even 8 years later, no one in the family questioned that.

The fact is that there is no way Koki or Ahem can be absolved for sending Gopi to her edge. If they suffered for 8 years, it was because they chose to be that way.

Lets take Vidya out of the picture. If Gopi had not been pregnant, the hate would be the same. Gopi would have remained away. She would have escaped from MM because it had become unbearable to her, unbearable to the person who did not run even after being locked up and kept hungry in a storeroom.

Vidya coming into the equation does not change the fact that Gopi was driven away from MM, whether Koki explicitly told her that or not is not the question.
Just because they have another issue today that Gopi hid Vidya does not make what Kokila did any right. She was wrong.

As I said, agree to disagree.

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