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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

I agree to a certain extent about Rashi Xari.. She did start out being clear as to what she wanted. I will not fault her for wanting financially settled groom and a luxurious house.. To be frank, that is what most dream of or atleast look for when they get married..especially in an arranged marriage.

But the fact is, was Rashi completely honest to even herself that this is all she needed? I do not think so.
If all she needed was a luxurious family and a Lallu husband, rest be assured, she got it.. But she is not ready to see that. She is bent on ruining what Gopi has more than wanting something for herself.

If she was totally honest with herself would she have not seen that she got what she said and dreamed she wanted.. But it looks like she never sees this. She always looks at Gopi and wants what she has.. Even if that is not what she, Rashi needs or wants actually.

As for Hetal and Jigar, I totally agree.. There is something called as a sweet poison.. One can be sure of one's enemies but can never be sure of the sugary sweet, sucking up person next to you. .They are neither honest to themselves or to you..

As I replied to Xari's post, Rashi is just greedy Harini. And there is no end to greed. She has got what she wanted but the thing is she isnt even looking at what she has...she has her eyes on what Gopi has. Right now Gopi has a baby which she does not have and so she wants that. And Jigar I cannot believe does not know this. In fact both Hetal and Jigar know the kind of person Rashi is, and that makes it worse 🤢. And the sad part is Koki's family is paying the price for their dishonesty 😭🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Unfortunately I don't see the honesty in any of their relationships coming out in anyway either..

There used to be a time when I considered that Ahem was being too harsh on Jigar but then I realize that Ahem never did have everything on a silver spoon and hence he did not share Jigar's nonchalant attitude towards life and work. Atleast Ahem was honest that he was not impressed with his younger brother even for a minute😊

If one looks at it, all those who actually worked for their relationship and strived to be at the place they are now are actually the ones who have been honest in their relationships.

Koki had to make up working in the family and taking over its running when her husband did not contribute to the family's running. She worked long and hard. Ahem did the same. He worked to keep his mom's dream alive and made it his dream too..
He may not be the most jovial person to be around but he was and is still hardworking, smart, and totally loyal to his family. Look at Gopi.. She worked to be accepted as a wife and a DIL and her hardwork paid off..

Compare these to Jigar, Hetal and Rashi.. Jigar lets face it, got everything on a platter. His dad was the Modi head, his mom was loving and they could give him everything. Why would he ever have had to work?
His elder cousin worked hard enough to keep his father and support his dad in business. The will of course let him be the owner of one half of the Modi business without him trying. Why did he need to be bad tempered at all. His life was set.

Hetal had a house keeper cum Jethani who may be loud and obnoxious but got things done. I still remember during the batwara track when all Chirag kept asking was "Hetal yeh sab kya hai?"
If Hetal and CHirag were really that caring, they would not have let just Ahem go around trying to find Kinjal's runaway lover.. Chirag would not have said "Do what you have to but don't lets have a tamasha"


I find one thing though.. When RaJi fight about something really bad in their married life, they cannot solve it by themselves at all. Gopi or GoHem always help them to tide over the biggest issues in their life while GoHem sort their life out themselves..
Now KinWal are fighting their own battle, That is how a good hubby - wife relationship should be. The minute you need a third party to mediate then there is no honesty in the relationship at all🥱
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

Unfortunately I don't see the honesty in any of their relationships coming out in anyway either..

There used to be a time when I considered that Ahem was being too harsh on Jigar but then I realize that Ahem never did have everything on a silver spoon and hence he did not share Jigar's nonchalant attitude towards life and work. Atleast Ahem was honest that he was not impressed with his younger brother even for a minute😊

If one looks at it, all those who actually worked for their relationship and strived to be at the place they are now are actually the ones who have been honest in their relationships.

Koki had to make up working in the family and taking over its running when her husband did not contribute to the family's running. She worked long and hard. Ahem did the same. He worked to keep his mom's dream alive and made it his dream too..
He may not be the most jovial person to be around but he was and is still hardworking, smart, and totally loyal to his family. Look at Gopi.. She worked to be accepted as a wife and a DIL and her hardwork paid off..

Compare these to Jigar, Hetal and Rashi.. Jigar lets face it, got everything on a platter. His dad was the Modi head, his mom was loving and they could give him everything. Why would he ever have had to work?
His elder cousin worked hard enough to keep his father and support his dad in business. The will of course let him be the owner of one half of the Modi business without him trying. Why did he need to be bad tempered at all. His life was set.

Hetal had a house keeper cum Jethani who may be loud and obnoxious but got things done. I still remember during the batwara track when all Chirag kept asking was "Hetal yeh sab kya hai?"
If Hetal and CHirag were really that caring, they would not have let just Ahem go around trying to find Kinjal's runaway lover.. Chirag would not have said "Do what you have to but don't lets have a tamasha"


I find one thing though.. When RaJi fight about something really bad in their married life, they cannot solve it by themselves at all. Gopi or GoHem always help them to tide over the biggest issues in their life while GoHem sort their life out themselves..
Now KinWal are fighting their own battle, That is how a good hubby - wife relationship should be. The minute you need a third party to mediate then there is no honesty in the relationship at all🥱

Harini, the bottom line is MBP does nothing 🤢. When Rashi gets into trouble, instead of her husband it's Ahem who is right in front along with Gopi trying to bail her out even though he does not even like her. But he realizes the fact that she is family. We have seen him help Rashi in the kidnap track, the borewell track or Rashi's watch in the tummy track. What did Jigar do except for shedding tears? and in return what did MBP do when Ahem got kidnapped, Gopi went missing and Koki collapsed?🤢😡. So basically, are we saying that Kohem and Gopi are making up for the shortcomings in the MBP relationships? Because they will always be around to set things right, RaJi will continue to live a fake marriage blissfully? 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think yes Dipsy.. That is what I think will happen. You see, Gopi is always there to keep the fights from getting out of hand. She has the bandaid to fix the wound.

Ahem is there and he would not let the business go down even if Jigar never pulls his weight. So Rashi will not have any less comfort or money. Jigar will always run to his 'Bhabhi' crying if there is a problem in his relationship and Gopi will be Gopi and help him out🤢

You see why I want CBP to walk out? They will keep giving and giving while MBP will keep use them and then discard them at the time of their need
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

I think yes Dipsy.. That is what I think will happen. You see, Gopi is always there to keep the fights from getting out of hand. She has the bandaid to fix the wound.

Ahem is there and he would not let the business go down even if Jigar never pulls his weight. So Rashi will not have any less comfort or money. Jigar will always run to his 'Bhabhi' crying if there is a problem in his relationship and Gopi will be Gopi and help him out🤢

You see why I want CBP to walk out? They will keep giving and giving while MBP will keep use them and then discard them at the time of their need

so it means a relationship with no honesty can thrive provided the people in question just do not care...as Rashi and Jigar 🤢. Even if Kohem decide to walk out, Gopi will never let that happen. It is just not fair that good people suffer for others' dishonesty! I find this very disturbing! 😭😭😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Maybe Dipsy, it is because CBP are not honest themselves about their relationship with MBP.

Koki should be honest and look back to see if Mota Bhabhi really does love her like her sister or if it is all words and nothing else. If she does that she will see where she stands in this relationship.

If Gopi can be honest and look at her relationship with her Maami and Rashi then she will see the truth too. If Ahem is honest and follows his real instincts instead of being led by Gopi's words, however good intentioned they are, he will see how Gopi is being treated by UrShi..

It is not the MBP alone but Koki and GoHem too who are dishonest when it comes to their relationship with MBP. All three have I think a heightened sense of gratitude.. Gopi because she thinks she would be dead if not for her Maami and Rashi ben and Koki because she thinks if Mota Bhabhi had not been there, she and her family would have been nothing..

Ahem because he considers his Kaka to be his mentor and the father figure he always wanted his dad to be.. Their weakness has become MBPs strength.
All three will be used unless they take a good look and sever ties from this family of blood suckers who are taking it all and leaving nothing behind🥱
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Deepa... honesty is hmm a hard topic i will try to come bak and comment further...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

Maybe Dipsy, it is because CBP are not honest themselves about their relationship with MBP.

Koki should be honest and look back to see if Mota Bhabhi really does love her like her sister or if it is all words and nothing else. If she does that she will see where she stands in this relationship.

If Gopi can be honest and look at her relationship with her Maami and Rashi then she will see the truth too. If Ahem is honest and follows his real instincts instead of being led by Gopi's words, however good intentioned they are, he will see how Gopi is being treated by UrShi..

It is not the MBP alone but Koki and GoHem too who are dishonest when it comes to their relationship with MBP. All three have I think a heightened sense of gratitude.. Gopi because she thinks she would be dead if not for her Maami and Rashi ben and Koki because she thinks if Mota Bhabhi had not been there, she and her family would have been nothing..

Ahem because he considers his Kaka to be his mentor and the father figure he always wanted his dad to be.. Their weakness has become MBPs strength.
All three will be used unless they take a good look and sever ties from this family of blood suckers who are taking it all and leaving nothing behind🥱

you are right Harini and your points are the reason for my next question...how much dishonesty is acceptable? We know and hate how MBP are dishonest with themselves and each other..but the fact is even Gopi (who has been projected as the epitome of goodness) and Koki (the epitome of justice) are dishonest with themselves and each other too..well it's more like Gopi has been dishonest with Koki and continues to be so ...time and again we have seen Gopi realizing what Urshi are capable of yet she supports them and gives them priority over the Modis..is this right? is she being honest in her relationships? in a way she is supporting and encouraging RaJi's fake relationship..Jigar for all his faults is still not a bad guy. Does he not deserve a chance at true happiness? so why is she forcing him to live a lie with Rashi? Koki on the other hand is also aware of Rashi's tricks most of the time..yet she does not tell MB (I wont be surprised if MB believes Rashi over Koki 🤢)..Ahem I am prepared to give the benefit of doubt (not because I am biased towards him 😳) but because CVs are determined to keep him away from Urshi's truth every time 😡😡😡. So if we are blaming RaJi of being dishonest in their relationships..isnt Gopi doing the same thing? 😕😕😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deepikz

Deepa... honesty is hmm a hard topic i will try to come bak and comment further...

no worries Deepz! 😛
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dipsy, as much as I agree that Gopi has secrets from Koki and Ahem, I do not believe that her relationship with them is dishonest.

Gopi has been honest about her love and her respect for both Koki as well as Ahem. Her hiding certain truths about UrShi from Koki or Ahem is not because she is dishonest with them about her relationship.. It is just because she is honest with herself about them. She understands that for KoHem, what UrShi do will be par the tolerance level.

I am actually happy that Gopi is totally honest about that to herself. She is also correct in her assumption that KoHem will not stand for injustice and that me think that Gopi does know that she is siding with gross injustice when she hides UrShi's acts from KoHem and hence her furtive glances and the guilt. However wrong I think her hiding the truth of UrShi is, I still consider Gopi honest about her intentions regarding them.

Koki on her part also understands Gopi's weakness. I don't think she agrees.. She however understands that her Gopi vahu cannot help herself from siding UrShi and that is why we see her listen to Gopi's pleas regarding Rashi and Urmi. That is the honesty I like. Both talk to each other and share in PoVs, however different it maybe.
When Gopi hides something from Koki, it is only when that truth will lead to Rashi being sent out. Remember that Gopi knows Koki's sense of fairness completely and Also Ahem's anger. She was the victim for a year when she was sent out of her sasural for her mistake. Do you think she will wish the same fate on her cousin who she loves? I don't think so.

The honesty I am talking about is more the honesty of oneself about one's relations. GoKi and GoHem's relationship between each other is clear and truthful. They however are blinded by gratitude when it comes to anyone from MBP. Koki is blinded by her gratitude for Mota Bhabhi for sustaining her over the years while Gopi is filled with gratitude towards Rashi and Urmi. That is why they do not let them get the punishments they deserve. This is their only fault.

As for Ahem, I do not think it is right to stay so far away from his family tensions but then I cannot blame the guy. .When you have a person like Rashi in the house, every day is drama whether you like it or not. 🤢 But I still keep hoping that he would see Gopi's eyes and understand her plight one day and talk to her like a friend and tell her that she needs to overcome her gratitude😊

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