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Posted: 13 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: aris22l

I agree with you. Why I am supporting this is not for Giaa. I think everyone Giaa, PH, and SP was at fault for this fiasco. The reason I would fight is for the rights of the viewers. SP is a big channel, they and the PH should know how to handle these type of things. The underhanded way they foisted the new actress in the audience's face was like saying we will do what we want, who cares about you.

Yes, it is a serial and we eventually will move on. The serial may end or it may reach the sky. The show doesn't rule my life. A lot of us will watch other serials or stop watching all together. The thing is SP and the PH must have known they were firing Giaa a few days ago. They can't conjure up a new actress and shoot scenes with her overnight to move the show from one day to the next seamlessly like they did. The day they knew Giaa had to go, they should have given her a termination letter and called a press conference to let the viewers know. They should have been up front about the whole thing. There could have been a change in the track to hide Gopi's face or presence and the audience could have got adjusted to her removal. It was as if they wanted to rub in Giaa's face that they can replace her over night and show her her place. They forgot though they are answerable to viewers. They dealt with the whole issue so ruthlessly and with utter disregard to the viewers' emotions.

This may be a David vs Goliath fight. It may be a wasted effort and Giaa may not even be back, but if the channels and the production houses can learn a lesson that they have to listen to their viewers, then it is worth it.

Thanks Aris.. this is exactly why I am slo supporting bringign back Gia.. I have edited my post a little to correct the same, if it was looking as if I meant anything else. I had even bolded the part which was the real reason why I am against the overnight replacement.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: pip23

My problem is SP said that if you go, you are out. Giaa made the choice to go to JDJ. Other actors were given the same ultimatum and they stayed. Thats just how bosses work. They give ultimatums, its your choice what you want.

Exactly. I don't why SP is being seen as some kind of a unique bully. Bosses make rules for employees and Gia isn't a gem to them, she's just another employee like Sanaya or Hina or Deepika.

Giaa chose Jhalak knowing that SP doesnt make empty threats. So what to say when obv what a person wants to do is more important?
There is no logic behind the opinions that Gia is a victim. She's not. She had a choice to stay or go and she chose to leave. Did she really think that Star Plus was going to say "Just kidding! Come back!". There are plenty of actresses out there who want/need roles, so replacement was not going to be a problem.

I understand the change is sudden and unexpected, but thats why the character is ALWAYS more important than the actor. I like Gopi. I liked Giaa as Gopi and I'm starting to like Debo as Gopi. As long as the PH don't tamper with the characterizations, why is it such a big deal that some people moved on?
To the last line, it's because some people cannot disguise reel from real. The face we see on TV belongs to an actress that's playing a fictional character. People seem to forget that.

Actually, I feel that maybe the viewers don't understand the concept of TV serials. They are supposed to fall in love with the characters of the soaps. Gopi hasn't changed.
I'll say it again: The face we see on TV belongs to an actress that's playing a fictional character. People seem to forget that.

Even if people are HUGE Giaa fans, isn't her preference more important then? Just going crazy because an actress wanted to try something new and had the guts to no take heed of the warning of SP, should we all become angry and sulky? Actors are actors and they go where they want or where there's money.
This is where I get really confused about Gia fans. Gia CHOSE to leave and pursue her desire to be on JDJ. Shouldn't the fans support her decision? This girl is more than just Gopi, she is an actress, an individual, an entertainer that wants to try new things. This is a girl that ACTED as Gopi, she IS NOT Gopi herself. Gopi is fictional. Gia is real. There's a difference.

So I have moved on. And so has my family. Win-win for all of us.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: d1211

Thanks!!!
As I mentioned to Shaun's reply, I feel more than getting justice done for Gia, if she is back it should be the justice for us viewers.
Not sure whether it will be good or bad for Gia herself if she is back in SNS, because we really don't know what she wants.
But again something will be proven to the channel/PH from her side that standing up for one's rights is not so bad and a lot of people will support you in that cause.
As for others who are continuing to watch the show, they can do it but it will be better if they also support people who is fighting for their rights ie what all I wanted to say. Because I feel that deep down inside they are also not happy with this change and is just taking it in their stride... and not being emotionally affected.
They also dont want so much presure around themselves, ie why they are just asking others also be calm and cool. Anyway people react in different ways for a scenario, but it is always better to give a try to speak up for your rights first, and if it is not working then do whatever you want... Take it in your stride or protest... Immediately accepting wrong doings will never make a change in this world.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: gullicricket

I think I have moved on too.. but I have stopped watching the show. I 100% support Gia fans as I would like to start watching the show again. The new girl is just not good (in my opinion).

I was talking to my mom in India on friday and she watches Sathiya on and off. She asked me why did they replace the old Gopi (she doesn't even know her real name).. She said, I changed channels in 5 mins, she is unbearable. Then I told her about the boycott and petitions and she said plz add my name too. What has Star Plus done to the show!
The point is, you don't have to be a die-hard fan to fight against the quality of entertainment dished out to you. And there is nothing wrong is demanding that Star Plus try to remedy our disappointment . A channel's ego is not greater than the love viewers have given them.

I totally agree with your point.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: pip23

My problem is SP said that if you go, you are out. Giaa made the choice to go to JDJ. Other actors were given the same ultimatum and they stayed. Thats just how bosses work. They give ultimatums, its your choice what you want.


Giaa chose Jhalak knowing that SP doesnt make empty threats. So what to say when obv what a person wants to do is more important?

I understand the change is sudden and unexpected, but thats why the character is ALWAYS more important than the actor. I like Gopi. I liked Giaa as Gopi and I'm starting to like Debo as Gopi. As long as the PH don't tamper with the characterizations, why is it such a big deal that some people moved on?

Actually, I feel that maybe the viewers don't understand the concept of TV serials. They are supposed to fall in love with the characters of the soaps. Gopi hasn't changed.

Even if people are HUGE Giaa fans, isn't her preference more important then? Just going crazy because an actress wanted to try something new and had the guts to no take heed of the warning of SP, should we all become angry and sulky? Actors are actors and they go where they want or where there's money.

So I have moved on. And so has my family. Win-win for all of us.

The Bold part... I said I will reply in seperate post.
The sentence works in any business environment only if two parties are involved ie the boss and employee. In case of TV serials the example is channel/PH and director/script writer. We are not even going to know if they changed the director or writer of the show. We may understand the difference at a later point if the show improves/sucks. We will not care. We are not going to cry out like this. We leave the show if it sucks. We continue watching with interest if it improves.
But if a third party, ie the end customer or client in my language which is equivalent to viewers in the serial world is involved everything changes. No boss can dictate absurd terms to an employee having an excellent client rapport. The end result will always the same... Either boss has to agree with the terms to the employee, client will stay with you employee will stay with you... The second one is the obvious one... Client will also leave with the employee... if not immediately after two three months of trial period... Business is lost... especially if Client is not notified regarding the immediate change of the employee and not given valid reasons.. Another point.. Clinet may go to the same place where employee went or can also move to some other vendors.. it is clients choice.. they lost trust in the current vendor.
This is exactly what is going to happen here.. since the channel played with the intelligence and emotions of their clients ie viewers.. and removed their favourite employee ie actor.. This is because it is not the boss who intercated with the clinet.. it was the employee and it was the employee who had built the trust in the client...
Don't know how many MBAs the channel employs.. but this is a normal business scenario and then also they took an overnight decision
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Posted: 13 years ago
#26
I think I have replied to pips post regarding this.. I feel like it answers most of your questions/points.. please have a look and let me know your points
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: d1211

The Bold part... I said I will reply in seperate post.

The sentence works in any business environment only if two parties are involved ie the boss and employee. In case of TV serials the example is channel/PH and director/script writer. We are not even going to know if they changed the director or writer of the show. We may understand the difference at a later point if the show improves/sucks. We will not care. We are not going to cry out like this. We leave the show if it sucks. We continue watching with interest if it improves.
But if a third party, ie the end customer or client in my language which is equivalent to viewers in the serial world is involved everything changes. No boss can dictate absurd terms to an employee having an excellent client rapport. The end result will always the same... Either boss has to agree with the terms to the employee, client will stay with you employee will stay with you... The second one is the obvious one... Client will also leave with the employee... if not immediately after two three months of trial period... Business is lost... especially if Client is not notified regarding the immediate change of the employee and not given valid reasons.. Another point.. Clinet may go to the same place where employee went or can also move to some other vendors.. it is clients choice.. they lost trust in the current vendor.
This is exactly what is going to happen here.. since the channel played with the intelligence and emotions of their clients ie viewers.. and removed their favourite employee ie actor.. This is because it is not the boss who intercated with the clinet.. it was the employee and it was the employee who had built the trust in the client...
Don't know how many MBAs the channel employs.. but this is a normal business scenario and then also they took an overnight decision


I think there are too many predisposed generalizations regarding the "clients", the viewers. Because some viewers will literally cease watching Saathiya whereas some may take a break and come back and some may just continue to watch it like they always did. If this was "The Gia Show", I could see your point. But this is Saathiya, it's much more than Gia and people will watch it for reasons other than Gia.

Plus this is show business. People come and go, and even though letting go of actors that play a main lead seems weird, it happens. The motto of this business is "The show must go on". They can't cancel an entire show at the drop of a hat just because Gia left. This show very well may get cancelled soon, but because it's so huge, SP can't let it go w/out taking a chance.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#28
Shaun may call me an emotional teenage girl again, but I want to put out this point also in this post:
My initial post was regarding how the channel quetsioned audience's intelligence. This one is regarding their emotions.
But some people are emotional. Most are. That is why we cry even for others.
If you see the forum, the most affected members of the forum is ladies who are pregnant and all ... who are at an emotional high. The sudden change of their favorite character has affected them. Also I remember a post by a girl regarding her mother and her favorite character. Eventhough it was funny, I felt very much for that post. My question is will the channel ever realise these after effects of their overnight decision.
I don't know.. India is not a developed country. we have a lot of issues like petrol prices, curruptio, rupee value decrease etc. So emotional affect on people is not going to make abig issue, since there are lot who require basic physical needs. Otherwise we should have filed a public interst lawsuit and sued the channel for affecting atleat 1000 people emotionally. This is because the show is watched by almost 3055 of Indians if gone by TRP...What I am pointing out here is even if they want to change the actress, they could have done it on a Monday after airing promos on Saturday Sunday and giving audience time to accept the change. A change will come as a less shock if we anticipate it. And we will cope with it more calmly.
Why I am saying that the channel is not going to realise this is:
1) The mails we are sending... We are getting automatic reply from them. It is easy to do the setting in outlook . If subject or body conntain Gia/Sathiya we are going to get a reply. Our mail will be autodeleted. people who dont get reply may had send the mail without keywords
2) Customer Care: People who attennd the calls may understand the feelings But they are mere employees. They are directed for what to say. Later they will just log the call regarding complaint : Want Gia back in saathiya. The actual content of call will be lost for ever.
3) I dont think they are checking channel websites/forums
Only way they may realise is this is because forum people has approacehed other media. Good if they realise this.
Another point I want to add to the people who are fighting is that I agree with Shaun's words, this is a serial and not end of worls. He is attempting to make you realise through his humour (a little balck if I say). The maximum this fight can continue only is for again 2 to 3 weeks. Then we will also move on... by stop watching the serial or accepting new Gopi..
But it is important to make our point reach the channel since they played with our intelligence and emotions. also they did not respect us as and end viewer or customer.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: megustajalebi


I think there are too many predisposed generalizations regarding the "clients", the viewers. Because some viewers will literally cease watching Saathiya whereas some may take a break and come back and some may just continue to watch it like they always did. If this was "The Gia Show", I could see your point. But this is Saathiya, it's much more than Gia and people will watch it for reasons other than Gia.

Plus this is show business. People come and go, and even though letting go of actors that play a main lead seems weird, it happens. The motto of this business is "The show must go on". They can't cancel an entire show at the drop of a hat just because Gia left. This show very well may get cancelled soon, but because it's so huge, SP can't let it go w/out taking a chance.

agree with you hope you have read my other reply to pip also which is in Page 3... I also say the same there
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: d1211

agree with you hope you have read my other reply to pip also which is in Page 3... I also say the same there


I just saw the reply on page 3. Well written. I disagree that the other cast members will suffer though. If anything, they have a greater chance to prove themselves as well, especially Nazim. Because it's a difficult time, it's a test for them to see how well they can adjust to the change and I think they are doing a good job so far. But let's see what happens

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