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Posted: 17 years ago
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I believe that SP tend towards Karmic punishment thereby keeping the victim hands clean.

On the topic of Saloni's forgiving the perpetrators there's no one definition of forgiveness. But in general, forgiveness is a decision to let go of resentments and thoughts of revenge. Forgiveness is the act of untying yourself from thoughts and feelings that bind you to the offense committed against you. This can reduce the power these feelings otherwise have over you, so that you can a live freer and happier life in the present.
Forgiving isn't the same as forgetting what happened to you. The act that hurt or offended you may always remain a part of your life. But forgiveness can lessen its grip on you and help you focus on other, positive parts of your life. Forgiveness also doesn't mean that you deny the other person's responsibility for hurting you, and it doesn't minimize or justify the wrong. You can forgive the person without excusing the act. It still allows for the person to get the consequence of their actions. Forgiving someone does not make you weak or lacking in self-respect.
Tara and Kaveri punishment should have been to have hurt/loss the things they valued the most. As in Kalika's case the lost of the Mother she always wanted...
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I so agree with you newgal and koolsadhu. They wrap up all cruel tracks in hurry without any logic involved and then the character disappears and again out of blue they reappear to do more harm than ever.
As for Tara and kaveri they can do murders and still get away.
I am happy that kali gave kaveri taste of her own medicine.
As for Tara she never thinks before accusing Saloni or Nahar.
For her both are her scapgoats. Any time she feels like she accuses them and again get away by apologizing to them.
Tara is older bahu and she should know better.
kakasa did get punishment trusting wrong person loosing his only child.
But then KTJ did not deserve to live.
He should have thought before making alliance with a devil.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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judy
what u have written about forgiveness is so beautiful and so true that i have written it down on a paper and kept it in a book . It reminded me of someone who always told me when i remained angry for long if someone hurt me or was unfair to me ...........that the longer u remain angry with that person , u r allowing that person to control ur mind . I agree with u totally dear .
That apart , its the fact that Saloni overrides Nahar each time although he is in principle right and she is wrong [ the barren woman issue for instance ] that really gets to me . She even apologised on his behalf to laali............something that is really offensive [ as if nahar has no brains]. She goes overboard in the ' love for family ' thing and loses her human appeal .
I wont feel sorry for her again.........that much is for sure . Her neglect of her own baby , her not listening to her own husband , her tolerance of abuse at home and becoming a fighter for injustice only outside the house .........and her Tara devotion is something i cannot appreciate at all as a viewer . If Saloni gets one more time insulted by Tara and posts start flowing in about ' poor ' Saloni , Ill not respond ....thats for sure . I may even feel she deseves it .
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I would like to add that forgiving is the highest form of human behaviour that can be shown to another person. It is the opening up of yourself to that person to be vulnerable to being hurt or offended in the future, yet setting aside this in order to reopen and heal the channels of communication.
Since the writers did not make Tara/Kaveri accountable for their actions or showed any situation that would cause behavioural change. It is 100% surety they will behaviour exactly the same. Note Brijesh's behaviour has change towards Saloni through the course of the show and that is due to her being right on a number of occasions. He has had behavioural change. I guess she has no one to blame but herself when they do it to her again and again.....

http://www.coping.org/relations/forgive.htm#Beliefs

I am going to play devil advocate here

Let me start off by saying I was as unhappy with the Lalli Massi issue however in retrospect the most sensible thing Saloni did was to apologize.

She diffused an explosive situation. Lalli Massi was not going to back down as it was Saloni breached a gap that the family would have held Nahar responsible for and by extension herself. She protected her husband. Remember Kakisa was asking Nahar to apologize, She knew that Lalli Massi was lying after all she tried to wake Lalli Massi from sleep. That was a smart move to apologize, Nahar was not going to do it, Lalli Massi wasn't and she was prepared to leave the house. Do you think that Tara wouldn't have rubbed her face in it every-day about Lalli Massi leaving and Kalika is on her own?

Don't forget Gunpat and his ever-loving wife brought Lalli Massi to the house. Brijesh and Bhaboo would have told Nahar he should not have reacted so harshly.
Yes she did not take care of herself and her baby and she was made to pay. The SP writers made her suffer for that. She mourned and suffer for the death of her child and her husband dreams. No one else had to suffer.
Edited by judyp - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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judy
ur a fine devils advocate .........[ devil is lucky to have u]😊 and u make his case nicely , but i disagree dear .
She did the most ' sensible ' thing to apologogize u said . Well , then wudnt it be the most ' sensible ' thing to simply walk away from the crowd of ruffians outside the temple with sticks instead of beeing foolishly heroic and trying to walk in at the cost of bloodshed ? I mean , seriously ............what were three women going to do with a crowd of uncouth men who wud perhaps have no finer sensibilities and wud even hit them with sticks ? And all this for what ? It was not just Saloni whose skull wud have cracked , but even Mannobhabhi or that poor woman wud have died . So why wasnt Saloni ' Sensible and practical ' now ...............like , as u said she gauged the situation and was with Laali Maasi ?
The answer is that Saloni bent before Laali not to protect her husband , and also not by being sensible or practical , but simply coz Laali was a relation and was elder in age . Infact , sensible behaviour and practical behaviour had totally left Saloni at that point . [ Her obsession for Advitya and her mindless immunity to Tara's horrendous insults was anything but sensible].
Also she justified to Nahar that ' perhaps laali was right about barren women , this has been the case for ages ' ...............a statement absolutely not befitting the lead heroine . Defeating Parbat Singh and men is far harder than sharply talking to an obnoxious elderly lady like Laali ................all it required was guts which she chose not to use as it was ' family ' .
And that leaves a message .........any wrong , so long as family does it , is forgivable . There is no such thing as self respect within family ..............that value only exists with outsiders . Laali and Tara insulted not just Saloni but barren women in general and Saloni shud have been shown standing up for this social cause , not weeping and catching feet of tyrants . It was disgusting .
They show Saloni waltzing in and out of other serials and giving speeches when the heroines there face serious problems . I feel they shud stop it as she herself allows people to trample over her under the mistaken concept of ' family values' . Till Saloni shows Tara her place , or Kaveri , when she next insults her character so cheaply , I wont even watch her speeches . Tara managed to insult infertile women this much only coz Saloni let her . It is her personal policy never to disagree with Tara simply coz she is Bhabhisa.
We all come from joint families [ i do ] and see many tiffs , disagreements , ups and downs . But i tell u , it is not necessary for a person to be this spineless in a joint family simply to keep it ' intact ' . Joint family doesnt break with such everyday quarrels . In fact , the joint family system is a perfect training ground for people to learn to survive in the bigger world even more smartly , as they get trained to adjust , share , live life with diffrent types of people and yet to hold their own and survive at any cost . And nowhere does it mean losing self respect ............it infact , toughens ! One learns to firmly say "NO' right in the beginning as otherwise things sit on ur head .
I bet u , after she finds her daughter , Saloni will start teaching her little daughter to take a backseat and give Advitya precedence . Everytime something occurs she will tell her daughter , let Advitya win . U keep quiet . This will be the new chapter in SP .

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