Who is at fault for the degradation? - Page 8

Originally posted by: chatbuster

yaar, everyone has their pet projects. someone thinks it's in the national interest to save wild life. someone finds an urgent need to start an alcohol prevention program. and so on, someone feels the need to save our culture. in my own opinion, some of our traditional culture in music and other areas are really worth saving. but there are other cultural aspects we can do without (and i can provide a list of these as well).

first question would then be is who gets to decide? if we have folks in a Culture Mininstry doing so, that would likely become another adda for political grafts. also see the example of how the Reich Camber of Music and the Chinese (Falun Gong) Culture Ministry turned out. it's often a dangerous idea to think of having a culturally elite class pass judgment on what is acceptable in society. creates another way to divide society and create hatred. inevitably leads to taliban-type problems.

second question is, who should pay in the process? the common man who already has a hard time making two ends meet? the guy who needs near-free entertainment, however crass some may find it to be, or the culturally elite who are hungering for that old culture? if we impose some culture ministry idea, then we are implicitly having the common man subsidize the saving of the culture. in any case, the supply of money is not infinite. resources are scarce. should these be spent on "culture" or on economic upliftment? personally, i feel the greatest crime is to consign folks to a level of economic existence that most folks can only shudder at. if we were at those crossroads, God forbid, what would we want? culture? or food on the table?

those who feel that our culture should be saved should really expend energy, time and money to do so. else it is expecting others to solve our needs for free.

my POV (maybe a bit off kb's topic but relevant to other posts in this thread)

very well written

Originally posted by: kishore_bhakta

I'm sorry to say this but this article on Vishwanath's vulgar behavior prompted me to say it: (Please forgive me if anyone is offended)

To say that "this show has fallen to the pits" is stating the obvious. I think they should just cancel this show!

When the music industry is drenched in item numbers at a club with girls wearing revealing clothing, devoid of melody, copying others, and nothing but SHOR (noise) being accepted as music, how can anyone use "Sa Re Ga Ma Pa" as a platform to join in this field?

As yourselves everyone: WHO IS AT FAULT?

1. IS IT THE PUBLIC?

Do the public truly like to listen to remixes and songs that are sung in the club with revealing bodies with suggestive lyrics or actions? Will they be able to live the whole day if that's what they are listening to? Is the sound of the music or the picturization inspiring them to buy more of this or to listen to all of this?

2. IS THE MUSIC DIRECTORS?

Do the music directors really have a say in how they create their music? Sorry to quote him, but Himesh Reshammiya says thist his music is targeted to 23 years olds. I am 22, and I know a handful of 22 year olds who stopped listening to Indian film music because it began to sound too "cheap." Does the film director/producer tell the music directors "compose this way or else your fired?" I sure hope not. Thank God for music directors like Ismail Darbar who is classical oriented, Jatin Lalit (to my knowledge, their music has always been listenable and mostly family orientated), late Madan Mohan (through Veer Zaara), A.R. Rehman (most versitile, to my knowledge).

OOPS! I discredit all those MDs that I just mentioned. I haven't heard a track by AR Rehman too recently, or Madan Mohan, or JL, or ID. Says a lot, doesn't it?

3. FILM DIRECTORS???

Do you think that a film story with cheap story lines or something vulgar will continue to survive? Will royalities come for them with they retire? Movies, for the most part, entertain audiences usually for something the viewer can relate to (cultural differences in Pardes), or wish to relate to (love from Mohabbatein), something informative (Bhagat Singh films), or just something to relax and have a good time (some Govinda film). I understand that the film "Kaliyug" (I haven't watched, btw) was to expose po*nography. However, from the previews, it appears to be a bit too extmeme. Will these things survive?

4. IS IT GAJENDRA SINGH VS. SONY??

Quite possibly. If GS really cared about the quality of his show, he'd cut those disputable things out like the walkout, mentors arguing over some petty matters, Vinit's love-story, too much dwelling in contestant's lives, Sharib's behavior, Vishwas's outburts, and Vishwanath's remarks. If he has no control to retain the quality of his show, then SRGMP will remain forgettable and true music lovers that I have had the fortune to meet in this forum, will hanker for good music or old tapes and recordings of old SRGM when Sonu Nigam was the host or maybe the early episodes when Shaan was the host!

Do you think Fame Gurukul's reality show format elicited this?

(sighs) I said what I have to say.

As Mahendra Kapoor sang in the film "Yaadgaar" (1970)

"mandir se log ghabarate hain, har raat club mein jaate hai

lo bhakti bhajan sab bhool gaye, aur filmi gaane gaate hai

jab dharm nahin, aur sharm nahin, koi acha karm nahin to phir uska baad.

(ektara noises)

ektara bole tun tun tun tun tun..."😆 (lighter side)

You are 22?? OMG, I would have never guessed! You sound so matured and you are the maestro here!

I have to agree with all the reasons you mentioned but FG is the main culprit....😡