SRGMPA-classically trained ones made it

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CLASSICAL MUSIC:THE FORMAL TRAINING

We all r aware of the fact that for every job we require some initial training,otherwise we cannot get the maximum output,efficiency & effectiveness.

Practice makes a man perfect,that's a common saying,but now everyone wants to get a short-cut method.Short-cut may take us to our destination sometimes but we cannot sit in the velvet couch for too long.

Listening to music & singing r two different things.All persons who have the knowledge of music cannot sing,all singers cannot make music.Sometimes,some persons even having the knowledge and sur gyan cannot potray it by singing.What we think cannot be produced to the same extent.Some persons can play instruments very well but they r unable to sing it perfectly in the same manner & vice-versa also happens.

God has given everyone some talent or the other but the degree varies.Some r more talented & some r less,but with hardwork we can improve.Music is all about the SAATH SUR .

Every instrument is set-up and brought 2 perfect sur before playing it.Likewise each sur.i.e.Sa,Re,Ga,Ma,Pa,Dha,Ni,Sa, have 2 be properly practiced before singing a song.If we r perfect in that we can sing or play almost any kind of song.

As Bhaktaji has told earlier that Ragas r made of these.They have a variety of combinations and if we learn even 50 of them,and r able to do atleast their Sargams,we can try and sing almost any song.

Our gr8 gurus have made the ragas and also talas suiting them.Tala is another important aspect and proper training of it can be achieved only by knowing at least something about Tabla.

A singer should know how each type of instrument works and should be able to relate to it properly.

Classical training imparts us a foundation for music.If fundamentals r strong,we can use our skill,knowledge and imagination to maximum level.

I'll site u examples.

Just see Sanchali,she didn't have the proper training,so she was out eventually.She was besura at times,the same thing happened with Rajeev,he had gr8 potential,but he was not good in low notes,his voice shaked and he seemed uncomfortable while singing.Same with Vinit too,he didn't have enough riyaz,so he didn't have straigt low notes.Again,he is unaware of some simple techniques.We don't have 2 always shout with all our breath when we go for higher notes,sometimes,we have 2 do soft mirkis and we can just move like sliding slowly towards the higher note,Hariharan does it often.

just see Nihira & Hemu,they r comfortable in all types of notes,may be they r shuddha low notes,very high ones,tivra ones,or komal ones,even they r comfortable singing komal & shudha,high & low alternatively.As per Himani,she's improved a lot.She is trained but she has not regular practice but after coming to Challenge she did work hard.

Breathing in between and how 2 control breathing and where 2 take small breaths and where 2 take large ones is another imp thing.When we have atleast 2hrs of riyaz everyday,we can make it the best.

Remember,Qazi had 2 take breathing exercises to improve his singing,still he's not better than anyone in u compare.

Concentration is also very necessary,music is like meditation,the feelings come if u totally concentrate.Nihira was praying no,that somewhat increases the concentration.

U can sing a song but if u r classically trained,u'll not take much time 2 learn a new song,u would grasp it automatically,otherwise it takes a lot of time learning that particular song only.In school,i used 2 playback for almost all songs in the functions,there,i used to take just 15 min to learn a song and then i sang it.Even,i was able to teach others.😊

I don't say that classical training is a must for singing,but it is helpful for making a stable career as a singer.

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raghav64 thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Good Post. yours humbly used to sing a lot without training and get applause but after going to a teacher for classical music lessons, I have a lot better understanding of music. the first time i sang in front of my teacher, she said besura gaate ho. Needless to say, I hear my old songs and wonder how i could sing so badly. Not that I am good now but I know my mistakes now. As a result, i dont sing much nowadays😆 😆
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Thanks raghav,but if u r able 2 know ur mistakes u should practice and rectify them rather than not singing,that's bad,u should sing even more then,that increases confidence,ultimately u'll come 2 know that no mistakes will happen.

Keep singing.

Failure only drives us to success no,

Go 4 it😊

Originally posted by: raghav64

Good Post. yours humbly used to sing a lot without training and get applause but after going to a teacher for classical music lessons, I have a lot better understanding of music. the first time i sang in front of my teacher, she said besura gaate ho. Needless to say, I hear my old songs and wonder how i could sing so badly. Not that I am good now but I know my mistakes now. As a result, i dont sing much nowadays😆 😆

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Thanks, I still do but less. More for my own getaway. No greater feeling than having a tanpura droning and practicing your sargams in the morning. 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
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what about people like us ruby ji....total besura like braying donkeys... 😉
is there any hope left for us.... 😉 😛
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we are lucky where knowl.people like you r writting plz keep posts flowing...
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If Sachali survived for long, credit goes to her classical training, she was able to eliminate Vinita who had a better voice quality than Sanchali.
Actually Himani improved with leaps & bound, when she performed Ahsaji's songs in initial rounds I remember she missed sur & mood, but Nihira is a class apart: if you see she already started with 85/100 now from this point onwards moving to 90 is a herculian task..
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Originally posted by: N Sinha

If Sachali survived for long, credit goes to her classical training, she was able to eliminate Vinita who had a better voice quality than Sanchali.
Actually Himani improved with leaps & bound, when she performed Ahsaji's songs in initial rounds I remember she missed sur & mood, but Nihira is a class apart: if you see she already started with 85/100 now from this point onwards moving to 90 is a herculian task..

Nihira is special, Niraj. She was way above the competition

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raghav plz push this mail up if it gets lost in flood of inane mails...this is much better than topi/pyr/HR..
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Thumka, as i read somewhere means bump 😊

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