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N Sinha thumbnail
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Posted: 19 years ago
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WHAT A WONDERFUL PIECE OF INfO... 👏 👏
thanks Mukesh, I much appreciate this...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Another piece of info about great pancham...
while making "jewel thief", SDB was having a tough time keeping up with his health...so he prepared antara, orchestra etc and pancham made all the mukhdas.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: ms04

Another piece of info about great pancham...
while making "jewel thief", SDB was having a tough time keeping up with his health...so he prepared antara, orchestra etc and pancham made all the mukhdas.



wo saaf pata bhi chalta hai gane me nahi kya........??
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Niraj,
Thanks for the PM. I didn't know about this. Nice to know such trivia. I love Panchamda. Jawani Diwani is one my favorites .. Jaane Jaan Dhoondta Phir raha, Yeh Jawani Yeh Diwani...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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this is a wonderful post.

RDBurman is one of my most favorite MDs.

when i was in school i started collecting RD"s songs (iused to get them recorded on a cassettes in the order i liked). the day i got my last cassette (#15), RD passed away. i can't forget this strange coincidence.

also, apart from the amazing talent i always see a child-like curiosity in his eyes in his pictures. somethis that tells me this person likes to experiment ...

thanks for these posts.

Originally posted by: N Sinha

PART 2 ON PANCHAM DA:
In this part I shall try to explain why he is given so much of critical acclaim:

It is no surprise that all great composers have been great instrumentalists, it is said that Pancham could play whatever instruments he could lay his hand on, in fact he learnt Sarod from Ustad Akbar Ali Khan when he was only 3 years old.
If you want to gauge the capability of any composer please give a lot of attention to the background music of the film, who can forget the chase sequence of Sholay where Basanti is chased by dacoits & the dominant back ground music follows, played on several tablas, tuned to diff. notes by Pt. Samta Prasad. Few other great background music by Pancham have been the one where Amitabh is chased & shot by Dilip Kumar in Shakti (remember the one played on violin & North African drums) & Arjun (where Sunny Deol heads for a showdown with goons, in fact latter this music was included as opening music of Mamayiya kero mama song in same movie).
The legendry notes played on lead & bass guitar in dum maro dum was so dominating over the movie that Dev sahib decided to remove one entire antaara from this song not to let the music completely take over his direction…….!! The entire rock genre of music to Bollywood was introduced through this movie: HRHK.
Pancham introduced several miscellaneous instruments & their peculiar effects, he also added superior sound mixing, engg., multi track recording etc.

Bass guitar was introduced in "Hare Rama Hare Krishna." Even though he was a good bass guitarist, he sometimes became very simple when he did the bass guitar in "Preetam Aan Milo Dukhiya Jeevan Kaise Bitaun" from "Angoor." The bass hit only 1 note: Sa.... Sa... Sa.. Sa. In that song, there were sound effects of wind, cats, dogs, frogs, doors opening, ticktock, horses galloping. A gallery of sounds!
But his usage of this instrument became far more complicated in 1980s by him where I notice him using it in hard core way ( Shaan, Sitamgar, Hum naujwaan).

Panchamda was a great tabla player. Whenever he was a child, he would accompany his father, S.D. Burman during practice sessions. When Panchamda became a music director, he used his tabla set in a very unusual way. In "tere bina jiya jayen na" from "Ghar", Panchamda played chords on tabla tarang (fifteen tabla dayans tuned different notes).
He used a tabla tuning hammer to produce the unsual sound in the rhythm for Muttu Koi Kawadi (Do Phool)... the song Twinkle sang in SRGMP.
He used drumsticks on the tabla for the song "Pyar Hua Chupke Se" from 1942 love story.
He transposed pitch in Main Chali Main Chali from Padosan (like Western compositions).
In Padosan with the Ek Chatur Naar song, Mannada (singing for South Indian Mehmood) had mridangam and morsing accompanying him in aadi talam and had him sing taans in Carnatic style while singing in South Indian accent. Kishoreda (singing for himself and North Indian Sunil Dutt) had the tabla playing in tintal singing in tyical Hindi accent.

Pancham introduced the twin track effect in 'Baharon Ke Sapne'. which he later used to create the mesmerizing 'qatra qatra miltee hai' (Ijaazat) and a few more songs.
He also pioneered the use of electronic organ in Indian Films with the song 'O mere Sona re' (Teesri Manzil).
RD was, as Gulzar says, as good a craftsman as he was a musician. He picked the sounds for his songs from very indigenous sources.
In 'Chura liya' he used the sound of a spoon hitting a glass .
For the Kitaab song 'Master jee kee aa gayee chiTThee' he brought some desks from a classroom in the studio while recording and used them as percussion. In Abdullah he used the sound of a bamboo whistle with a balloon tied to it for a song.
Once to get the sound of raindrops, he spent a whole rainy night in his house's balcony recording the sound he wanted.
In the song 'O Manjhi Re' from the movie 'Khushboo', R.D. Burman used bottles with water filled at different levels and created a hollow sound by blowing into them and this sound effect was used with the orchestra.

Thanks Panchamda….!! Your ardent fans like us shall always keep your music alive…!! MAY GOD BLESS YOUR SOUL…!!

with wonderful opinion of Kishore Bhakta.



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Posted: 19 years ago
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thanks rare2005, im glad you liked it....
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: kishore_bhakta

Wonderful article, Sinhaji! Defnitely a lot of responses to this article!

Panchamda was one of the best music directors that ever existed in our film industry. He was the one who improvised on all forms of music and whichever experiment he did was one of the best creations that everyone else wants to try! Panchamda, you are one of a kind!

BTW. Panchamda used Mannada in Ek Chatur Naar, Ey Sakhi Radhike Bawari Ho Gayi, Yeh Dosti Hum Nahin Chodenge.

Panchamda used Mukesh whenever he felt Mukesh could do justice. That was very sparingly, but after Kabhi Kabhie, Panchamda used his voice more. Unfortunately, Mukeshji didn't live long to make number with Pancahmda.

Jis Gali Tera Ghar Na Ho - Kati Patang

Zindagi Mein Aap Aaye - Chaliya

Kahin Karti Hogi - Phir Kab Miloge

Dharam Karam songs (Ek Din Bik Jayega, Tere Humsafar)

After Kabhi Kabhie...

Karm Kaho Kismat Kaho (Karm 1977)

Suhani Chandni Raatein (Mukti 1977)

Lalla Lalla Lori (Mukti 1977)

Teri Duniya Kaisi Tu Jane (Chandi Sona 1977)

Upar Jake Yaad Aaye Niche (Naukri 1978)

I didnt know some of them.......thanks kbji

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Wat a post...simply awesome!! 👏 👏
For someone like me who is crazy bout music, but haven't got too much knowledge bout the technicalities of music this post is like everything I could have hoped for..to try n understand the MAD GENIUS that was Panchamda....
I dont think I can thank u enough....ur posts r something that I look forward to....but this one just takes the cake n the icing an even the cherry!! 😊 Thanx Sinha-ji....
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: sm_79

Wat a post...simply awesome!! 👏 👏
For someone like me who is crazy bout music, but haven't got too much knowledge bout the technicalities of music this post is like everything I could have hoped for..to try n understand the MAD GENIUS that was Panchamda....
I dont think I can thank u enough....ur posts r something that I look forward to....but this one just takes the cake n the icing an even the cherry!! 😊 Thanx Sinha-ji....



Heartfelt thanks ......

I wish this post was read by more people & they appreciated what a genius Pancham was, somehow this gets lost to 7/8 page in no time...
😳😳
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hi Niraj. Again an ingenious post.

About Panchamda, I can say this much that he has been one of my favorite music composer along with Salil Chowdhry, Naushad, and O.P. Nayyar

Speaking of experiments, I have read somehere that the bass guitar was introduced the first time in Gulabi Aankhen and the synthesizer was introduced in O Mere Sona Re Sona (Teesri Manzil).

Again in Hum Dono Do Premee (Ajnabee) the song is recorded when the cine musicians were on strike and PAnchamda had not many instruments in hand. Thus if you notice the song was recorded with few instruments yet it sounds so melodious. Another one such experiment was Mera Naam Hai Shabnam (Kati Patang) - a tuneless cabaret.

My favorite songs where Panchamda has shown his experimental nature are:

Tere Bina Jiya Jaye Na
Gulabi Aankhen
Sharm Aati Hai Magar
Jaane Jahan Dhoondta Phir Raha
Sharma Na Yun
Chura Liya Hai Tumne Jo Dilko
Dum Maro Dum
Kiska Rasta Dekhe
Bechara Dily Kya Kare
Mere Naina Saawan Bhadon
Chodo Sanam Kahe Ka Gham
Do Lafzon Ki hai Yeh Zindagani
Bheegi Bheegi Raaton Mein

O god the list is endless..




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