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In one of the interviews, A.R.Rahman said that a composer who moulds his music that suits the idiosyncrasies and tastes of the audience belonging to that moment would be a failure in the long run but at the same time a composer who can mould his music to suit the contemporary audience as well as satisfy the old generations can definitely come out as a winner and will last for a long time !
and you know what ! This is a widely acclaimed fact!
Roja came in 1992, which was almost 16 years ago when there was an audience acclimatized to the classical music and folk.The sound of Roja was completely new...it was like a whiff of air for the audience used to those genre and accepted Roja which created waves in the music world and established a new horizon in composing music !
In Roja's music, Rahman explored various raagams like Des, Kapi, Yaman Kalyani which are purely carnatic....the mathruk of the song was the raaga but the flavor is something which is unheard ever before....Actually this is the basic mantra in analyzing Rahman's music and which demarcates his stature from the lot !
For example, Ilaiyaraja composes a song in Kalyani...he sticks to it throughout the song....but Rahman is totally different.....If he starts a song with a raag he rarely sticks to it....the chain of raags keep on instigating in the song...for example, Kannamochi Yennada from Kandukondain Kandukondain starts with Sudha Dhanyasi and then flows to Nattkurinji and then deviates to Lalitha, then again you hear some other thing....which is totally an absurd to do in the books of a carnatic musician But thatz where his success lies....and he stuck to that through out his career till date...Even in Ada, I can see a song(Hawa) which starts with Hamsadhwani and then shifts to mishra Kalyani ! One has to accept this coz ARR had redifined the barriers in the music school !
Coming to Sakkarakatti, even I was flabbergasted after hearing the songs coz with one hear, a common man can say that itz not Rahman....The reason for this being the reputation a Rahman album commands in the ears of the audience !
To be very frank, I liked only Marudhaani and Naan Eppodhu (reason for that mite be that I hail from the school of carnatic music).People generally and conventionally give their vote to a film which is cut out off the rest.No melodrama and DDLJ stories are accepted over here.Only those films sell which have very novel thought depicted in something which is not seen before.That's what is called as something "Being Different" these days.If we apply the same principle to the music intricacies of ARR, he tried to be something different with albums of these kind.Whatz wrong in trying something which is very unconventional to depict in a conventional way ?? As far as I am concerned, I dont see any wrong in this !
And you know what !! To be on top always is a herculean task and mind you.ARR has kept his stature as the top musician almost throughout his career till date...
So one cant say that Rahman had lost his touch or forgot the principles of Carnatic....He's just trying to blend the contemporary music by applying the high father's principles....He's tasting success with that and listeners are getting to hear a soulful music....not a loss in anyway !!
I took the names of the raagas only to enlighten you all about what goes behind in composing a song.Those who don't know much about music just can't configure out the essence of a song imbibed in it! So I took the initiative so that even they could get to know the Complexities dwelling around in composing a song! Now lemme give you one conundrum.
"There is a very thin line between knowing music and composing music!"...One who understands that thin line is becomes a pioneer! ARR is one such pioneer!
Conglomerating different perceptions of different sects of audience on a single line is virtually impossible! But you know what!! A Roja did that, A Kandukondain Kandukondain did that, A Dil Se did that, A Swades did that.....Now don't search for any examples....We all in this community are the best examples for this thought!
One talks about acceptance....A Chinna Chinna Aasai was accepted gleefully by the audience at that time...Now as I said you before, the current audience have become more complex and more prudential.I can take an example at this point.Usually ARR takes 6 months to compose an album, it can even take him 2-3 years in churning out an album(Mangal Pandey, Rhythm, Ada, etc) and once it is released in the market, do you know in what time the album gets judged...in a mere 5-10 mins.The judgement is done…Rating given...Hit or Flop!! This is the scintillating set of audience we have in this modern world....(Even I am one among them)...The audience who accepted Roja can be satisfied to the zenith and they keep on saying that quality of ARR's music had increased by leaps and bounds....But for the same album, the current crop of audience can't give the same judgment.....The same happened with Ada!
There is neither a change in the raagas used nor there is any change in the quality of music being delivered...Hawa Sun Hawa has the flavor of Hamsadhwani which was used by ARR in his earlier works like Thenali, Udhaya, etc....yes, the style has changed....because he should keep focus on the audience! Now if you compose something like Sangamam, only people like me will lend an ear to that and it will be very quickly erased from the memories of the audience...but yu know what! An album like Sangamam needs an extra Endeavour rather than a film like Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na....and believe me, A composer feels impeccably happy while composing an album like Sangamam.... than composing a Sakkarakatti
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There might be inhibitions amongst yourselves but you have to cut down on them and tread the path where success lies...This is the philosophy that ARR has been using throughout his career and its redundant to say that he was immensely successful !!
I do accept that beautiful raagamaalikas are prevalent in carnatic but a musician prefers to stick to only one raagam while delivering a concert...Just keenly observe this....you get to know that Raagamalikas are used only by the established ones like that of a Unnikrishnan, Nithyashree, Bombay Jayashree, T.M.Krishna, etc...
And for a song like Narumughaye from Iruvar, you can clearly demarcate the swara of Maand from the mathruka raagam of the song, i.e., Gambheera Nattai! I love that composition

And moreover, there's a time specific every raaga....few examples include the melakartha raagam Hamsadhwani is preferred for late evenings and the songs like Vellai Pookkal, Hawa Sun Hawa (based on it) are really suited for such times although we can listen to those songs anytime for their soul stirring music...but am saying theoretically!
Another example is Hindlolam is for night....and Innisai is exactly tuned to listen at that time and Panturavali is for morning....based on which, Hai Rama acts like a good morning song in the notebooks of any penchant listener!
Today, if Bollywood can dream of going global, the reason, to a large extent, is a phenomenon called AR Rahman, writes Derek Bose
Song writer Sameer is yet to get over his first meeting with AR Rahman in 2002. It was for the music recording of the film, The Legend of Bhagat Singh. Rajkumar Santoshi was its director and Ramesh Taurani, the producer. Together with Sameer, they took a late-night flight to Chennai and straight from the airport, drove up to Rahman's house ~ only to discover that the maestro was busy at another location.

"The location turned out to be a tiny maqbara in the middle of nowhere," narrates Sameer. "Who would have expected that there, in the stillness of the night, amidst flickering oil lamps, lighted candles and incense smoke, we wound see this man, all alone with his synthesizer, composing music? There was not a soul in sight or anybody within hearing distance. In this spooky atmosphere, we hurriedly made a selection of nine or ten tunes and ran for our lives. By the first available flight next morning, we were back in Mumbai."

However bizarre or exaggerated this anecdote may sound, there is some truth in it. "It is a fact that Rahman works by night," says Madhushree, who has been singing for the composer since her Kabhi neem neem number for Yuva became a hit in 2004. "He does not compose during the day. He has a special place in his bungalow-cum-studio where he composes the first notes of every song he takes up. Nobody is allowed in there when he composes as he is supposed to be in communion with a Higher Power. For him, the process of making music is an act of prayer. With aromatic candles and the smoke of joss sticks around, the ambience is much like a place of worship. I do not know of any music composer who works like him."
For Bollywood denizens accustomed to working in anarchic conditions, Rahman has always stood out as an enigma. Everybody recognizes his prodigious talent, but that has not stopped the flow of jibes and jokes targeted at him. He is made out to be an eccentric, an oddball with peculiar quirks, an idiosyncratic genius, a recluse nobody can befriend, a weirdo inhabiting a world of his own... Nobody seems to know who the real Rahman is. That he is painfully media shy and operates out of Chennai has all the more added to the myth and aura about him.

"But nobody can take away from the fact that he is the ultimate master of sound," says Sameer, who takes pride in having worked with three generations of music composers ~ from Laxmikant-Pyarelal to Nadeem-Shrawan to Himesh Reshammiya. "Rahman is not only his own composer, he writes his notations, arranges the music, balances the sound levels, does the mixing himself and produces the final recording. There is nothing he does not know about technology. From A to Z, he is involved in every aspect of sound design and audiography."
So will the real AR Rahman stand up?
Here, it is necessary to separate fact from fiction. AR Rahman is the name AS Dileep Kumar adopted at the age of 21 (and not nine years as is generally believed) when he embraced Islam in 1988. At the age of nine, he lost his father RK Sekhar ~ a fairly successful composer, arranger and conductor of music for Malayalam movies ~ and the responsibility of looking after the family of three sisters and mother Kasthuri (later Kareema Begum) fell on him. The urge to convert to Islam was at the instance of a Muslim mystic, Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jeelani or Pir Qadri whose framed photographs today, adorn the walls of his Kodambakkam home. Bollywood music wizard and close family friend, Naushad Ali named him Allah Rakha Rahman.

These are established facts ~ as also the well known signposts of his career: learning to play the harmonium at the age of four, early apprenticeship under Dhanraj Master, assisting southern composer Illaiyaraja as a keyboard player since age 11, playing on the orchestra of M.S.Vishwanathan, accompanying tabla maestro Zakir Husain on his world tours and performing with local rock bands like Roots, Magic and Nemesis Avenue. He is a school drop-out, but had picked up a diploma in western classical music from Trinity College. Somewhere along the way, he slipped into advertising and in five years composed around 300 radio and television jingles. It was while collecting an award for a jingle on a well known coffee brand that he met filmmaker Mani Ratnam in 1991. A year later, Roja was unleashed!

The nation woke up to a new sound ~ a kind of music that went beyond the fusion of Indian melody and western beats Rahul Dev Burman and Bappi Lahiri had been trying to achieve. There was refinement in the integration of electro-pop, dancehall rhythms, Latin melodies, Hindustani and Carnatic classical... even Pahadi folk and Bengal baul. This was no arbitrary collage of incompatible harmonies. It was the work of a master, completely in command of his craft. And to imagine, this guy has just celebrated his 25th birthday.

All those who expected Roja to be a flash in the pan were disappointed. Rahman signed six films in 1993 and nine in 1994 ~ including blockbusters like Thiruda Thiruda, Pudhiya Mannargal and Gentleman. Bombay and Rangeela happened in 1995, closely followed by Dil Se, 1947 Earth, Taal, Zubeida, Lagaan, Meenaxi: Tale of 3 Cities, Yuva, Rang De Basanti, Provoked, Guru... In 16 years, Rahman did 108 films (not counting dubbed versions), averaging seven films to a year.

One by one, Bollywood's old timers like Ravindra Jain, Anu Malik, Raam-Laxman, and Jatin-Lalit were being put out of business. They were all hoping that a composer who did not understand, let alone speak a sentence clearly in Hindi, would not be able to hold his own in Bollywood. Sooner than later, they would see his back. But when Sony Music signed Rahman on a three-year contract in 1998 and recognition began pouring in like the Padma Shri in 2000, three national awards and 14 Filmfare awards (for Rangeela, Kadhal Desam, Minsara Kanavu, Dil Se and Taal), they had to come to terms with the Rahman phenomenon. There are also the awards from Mauritius and Malaysian governments, the Sanskriti Award, Rajiv Gandhi Award, Lata Mangeshkar Award and so on, besides collaborations with Andrew Lloyd Webber, Michael Jackson and David Byrne.

True, Rahman is weak in Hindi and it would therefore seem a miracle that he is able capture the emotion of lyrics he does not clearly understand. The trick he employs here is two-fold: one, he never gets into an argument over 'meanings' in a song (something, inconceivable with most Bollywood tunesmiths) and accepts the lyricist's word as final; and two, he brooks no interference from any quarter on the technical detailing of any score he composes. It is like saying, "I don't get into your way and you don't get into mine." In effect, the comfort level between lyricist and composer is instant and no time is lost over endless experimentation and arguments. More importantly, he leaves no scope for trial-and-error, because every tune is tailored to pre-written lyrics. With other composers, it is usually the other way around. Words are 'fitted' to pre-recorded tunes.
Still, he has had to face a lot of flak from time to time. From sounding the same and being repetititive to even funding an extremist group, Rahman has heard it all. By and large, the charges against him are on the following, somewhat predictable grounds:
unable to elevate himself from a jingle composer;
being more at home with musical idioms of the West than Indian ragas;
his hip-hop scores leave little scope for good lyrics;
over-dependence on computers and technical gadgetry; and
excessive use of singers ignorant about the nuances of language.
On the other hand, he has been credited for raising the bar for Indian film music by bringing about changes on five key fronts:
consistently introducing new singing talent, from Suresh Peters and Shahul Hameed, to Aslam Mustafa, Sreenivas, Mahalaxmi Iyer, Harini, Minmini, Sujatha Mohan, Nithyashree, Noell James (his secretary) and Madhushree;
only composer to credit his entire team of rhythm programmers and instrumentalists on the inlay card of his albums;
only composer who insists on being paid a royalty rather than a lump-sum fee for an assignment;
first Indian music maestro to go truly international when his Vande Mataram was released simultaneously in 28 countries in 1997 under the Columbia label;
his originality, creative drive and ground-breaking innovations have led to what is recognized as the 'Rahman School of music' ~ a brand by itself.
In balance, it becomes abundantly clear that no composer from India can match the stature this 41-year-old master enjoys in contemporary film music. With all his quirks and kinks, reticence and humility, the spiritual fixation and hunger for perfection, he stands tall in the community of world music greats. Today, if Bollywood can dream of going global, the reason, to a large extent, is this mystic minstrel.

He is the best fusion of art and science in music. He is a great man, inspired and blessed by God above. I don't mind changing all my nights to days to work with him. He creates fresh tunes in the night and sleeps during the day. That's how all great men are.
Subhash Ghai, filmmaker

He is a milestone in Hindi film music. He has single-handedly changed the sound of music in the movies, breaking the mukhda-antara-mukhda scheme of composition and replaced the traditional patterns of tuning.
Gulzar, lyricist-filmmaker

I admire three things about Rahman. Among the young composers he probably is the most original. He has a strong sense of melody and his harmony is unbeatable. Finally, he gives his music a rich tonal colour through his combination of instruments.
Shyam Benegal, filmmaker

Rahman is known to record only during the night time. But he records with me during the daytime... when my voice is fresh. I don't like recording at night. And he does not take long over his recordings. Jiya jale was recorded in just 40 minutes.
Lata Mangeshkar, playback queen

I find him an all-rounder. He knows Indian classical as well as folk music, he is in touch with western music and he has really studied western classical also. He knows Middle Eastern music as well. No wonder you see so many different colours in his songs."
Javed Akhtar, lyricist

It is challenging to choreograph Rahman's songs. He does not stick to the conventional four-eight-twelve-sixteen beats. He's unpredictable. Sometimes, he gives you a two and three-quarters beat. What do you do with that?
Chinni Prakash, choreographer

I worked with Rahman for a beautiful song called E nazneen suno. I was very nervous, especially since he records at an unearthly hour like three in the night. But he makes you feel as if you are AR Rahman and he is just an ordinary fellow.
Abhijeet, playback singer

Articles - Stories | Ramgopal Varma on AR Rahman and Rangeela's music

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I was making a Telugu film called Kshana Kshanam with a first-time music director called Keera Vani, now known as M.M.Kreem. One day at the recording studio while we were having lunch, Rickey, a rhythm programmer working with M.M.Kreem at that time, mentioned to me that I should work with this very talented keyboard player called Dilip. That was the first time I had ever heard of A.R.Rahman.

I didn't take Rickey seriously. Much later when I happened to listen Roja's songs at Mani Ratnam's home, long before the film released, I was blown away with the sheer originality of the songs' orchestration and tunes. I immediately wanted to sign him for a film I was making with Sanjay Dutt called Nayak, and for Rangeela. But my investors preferred Anu Malik, as they felt the success of the music of Roja's dubbed version was a fluke, and that this kind of music would not work in Hindi.

The very fact that A.R was not signed by any top Hindi filmmaker after Roja is proof-enough, they reasoned. They said that Anu Malik was at the top of his form after Baazigar, and that we would get a much bigger price for the audio.
I bartered with them that I will sign Anu Malik for Nayak if they allowed me A.R for Rangeela. They agreed, but the plain truth behind it was that they were not really interested in "Rangeela" as Sanjay Dutt post "Khalnayak" was a much bigger star than Aamir at that time. After 20 days of shooting for Nayak Sanjay got arrested in the serial blast case and the film was shelved. (Much later the script of Nayak I made it as Sarkar).
Before A.R, I have worked with Ilayaraja, M.M.Kreem and Raaj Koti, and knew on a personal level many other music directors and their working styles.



What struck me first when I met A.R was the incredible dignity with which he carries himself. There is neither an iota of arrogance nor a halo of pride which success invariably brings to people. After telling him the story of Rangeela, I showed him references of some Hollywood musicals, and described to him the visual style I was planning to capture the film in. Once he went through the situations, the compositions he came up with used to surprise me, though not always pleasantly. That is because his tunes were so original in his interpretation of the emotion of a situation that a conventional ear will take time to let it sink in.

That I think is the reason one tends to like his music more and more as one listens to it again and again. A case in point is the Hai Rama song where my brief to him was that I wanted to shoot an erotic number, wherein more than the romance I wanted to capture lust in Urmila's and Jackie's faces. I said to him that when animals have sex they are not ashamed, or feel shy, as they are so completely lost in their own feelings for each other, and hence do not care about where they are and who is watching them. The visual of Urmila and Jackie circling each other in the Kuldhara ruins of Rajasthan was the key image I gave him.

After the brief I was subconsciously expecting him to come up with a tune, something on the likes of I Love You (Kaate Nahin Katthe Yeh Din Yeh Raat) in Mr. India. What he came up with was the Hai Rama tune, which sounded to me like some classical Carnatic raga, and my first reaction was that he had lost his head.

But when I kept hearing it, it grew on me like an obsession, and I finally said that we will go ahead with the tune even though I was still unsure, deep inside, of how it would fit into the situation. But when he finished the entire track with the orchestration it was beyond my wildest imagination that an erotic song can be made to sound like that. He captured the intensity of the eroticism and the purity of its feeling in the beginning alaap, the cello themes, and through the wild tablaas which elevated the effect of the images I created, many times more than what they would have been otherwise.

One other trait I noticed about the difference between A.R and other music directors is that where the others pretty much dictate to the musicians and the singers about what they want, A.R interacts with them; in a manner of making each and every one of his solo musicians and singers feel as if it is their song and not his, thereby placing the onus on them to feel from within to get the best out of them. This I have never ever seen remotely practiced by any other music director.


Whereas most music directors record the final track first, with all the orchestration and get the singer to dub the last, A.R invariably gets the singer to dub on a base rhythm track first and does the orchestration later, as he wants the orchestration to rise from the depth of the feeling in the singer's voice. That's the reason why with every one of his tracks you can't recognize where the music ends and the voice begins, and vice versa. Each and every instrument is made to be played with the same emotional depth as that is in the singer's voice.
Not knowing technicalities of music I would think the phenomenon of A.R owes not only to his obvious talent but also to his incredible patience, focus, and dedication towards a song he is creating. The moment they finish recording a song, most music directors forget about it and move on to whatever else they are doing. A.R invariably keeps revisiting his song and effecting changes onto them (Read it as sculpting and polishing). Until a time the tracks have to leave for the audio company, he treats each and every song of his like his own daughter whom he is preparing for a marriage with the listener.

Also, A.R is the only artiste I have met who does not have creative arrogance. I mean that he never defends his work if it were to be criticized. He was recording The spirit of Rangeela theme in Chennai while I was shooting in Mumbai. When he sent the track to me I didn't like it, at first hearing. Not just me but the entire unit didn't. I called A.R and told him that it was not working. Without a second's pause he said he will work out something else, and this he said after having worked on the track for more than a week.
As I was playing the spirit theme in my car over and over again, at some moment it hit me like a thunder bolt, and I told him that I must have been out of my mind not to have liked it in the first place. He smiled and said "I knew you would like it eventually".


The aesthetics of his song tracks are beyond compare to any other music director's. What I mean by aesthetics is, if the melody is the story, the various instruments and the way they are recorded, played, and their inter-volume levels and tones would be like art direction, cinematography etc. So purely in melody one might still feel a difference in their own individual favourites, of what they like more and what they like less, but his aesthetics are always perfect irrespective of the overall effect of the song.


I can never forget a line of Rahman's, which he said to me while at his studio, "I've decided that whatever goes from here has to be good". He said it with neither arrogance nor extreme confidence. It was just so very simply said just as a decision he took and that single sentence made me understand A.R's greatness, more than his music itself. I have known many including myself who said, thought, and wished the same, but with the exception of A.R I have yet to meet a single man who practiced it and continues to practice it.


Jai Ho!

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i'm a huge fan of AR Rehman sir. Please add me in.
one of my favorite composition of his.
Dil Hai Chota Sa, Choti Si Asha ...
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Any one interested in discussin g music of Robot (Endhiran) & Jhoota hi sahi..😛
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A R Rehman is a legendary composer. I am a very big fan of his so Someone99 plz do add me in:)
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Originally posted by: Indradhanush

Any one interested in discussin g music of Robot (Endhiran) & Jhoota hi sahi..😛

I am not at all impressed with the music of Robot, most of the songs have weird lyrics like "Neutrons, electrons & all scientific stuff"😕
But I love the music of Jhoota hi sahi specially cry cry karte hai & Maiya yashoda, lovely songsTongue
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As a true fan, I will say his last album I like was Ghajini. I am not too keen of his latest albums and compositions. 😒
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Originally posted by: Shreyacool

I am not at all impressed with the music of Robot, most of the songs have weird lyrics like "Neutrons, electrons & all scientific stuff"😕
But I love the music of Jhoota hi sahi specially cry cry karte hai & Maiya yashoda, lovely songs😛


Lets discuss music of Endhiran first shreya fan.

I agree this lady who wrote the lyrics has murdered the songs .

With lyrics like

pagal anukan pyar dil me kitne hai
neutron electron bolo neele palko me jaane kitne hai

OR

auto wala auto wala automatic kala...

OR Kilimanjaro ladki parvat ki yaaro
iska roop niharo yaaro yaaro
mohanjodaro isko dil me utaro
jungle jungle pukaro...yaaro yaaro...

Chitti Babu show case resembles Liquid dance a lot from slum dog.

Rahman has used turn table (DJ ball) this time.

Arima Arima is OK.


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Originally posted by: Indradhanush


Lets discuss music of Endhiran first shreya fan.

I agree this lady who wrote the lyrics has murdered the songs .

With lyrics like

pagal anukan pyar dil me kitne hai
neutron electron bolo neele palko me jaane kitne hai

OR

auto wala auto wala automatic kala...

OR Kilimanjaro ladki parvat ki yaaro
iska roop niharo yaaro yaaro
mohanjodaro isko dil me utaro
jungle jungle pukaro...yaaro yaaro...

Chitti Babu show case resembles Liquid dance a lot from slum dog.

Rahman has used turn table (DJ ball) this time.

Arima Arima is OK.


Being a shreya fan, pagal anukan really disappointed me, specially those lyrics. I feel ARR is experimenting alot these days & all experiments need not be success.Ouch
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Maiyya Yashoda is unmistakably Rahmanish, the progress of song over raag jhinjhoti is breath taking, Rahman usually doesn't get inhibited to conventional instruments even if the reuirement of the song is semi classical.

Maiyya Yashoda (Jhoota H Sahi) is again uilt over synth & strings pads with taan here & there. There is use of turn table, editing, bass lines and every thing.

Otherwise not so great album has a song which displays of Rahman's talent in a flash.

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