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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mintyblue

Then I wonder why he disliked Yatharth😆 again maybe he likes only those unique voices which come from Rajasthan😉 Interesting....😳

I never liked Yatharth and Hemant voice. In truth I did not like any voice in LC09 except Priyanka. Are you Bengali? I see you like Bengali singer's conventional non-unique(ghisa pita) voice mostly.😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mind-googling


To this person (HB), unique, different and great voice is equal to husky, gravelly and cracked voice which can go in only one direction -- high, high and high. And, everything pleasant and soothing he/she considers 'ghisa pita'. 😆

Ghisa is those who sonuds like clone of other good singer and pita is those who sound like clone of other bad singers. If somebody sounds like Sonu or Kishore Kumar, that is ghisa and if somebody sound like Kumar Sanu or Himesh Reshammiya or Bappi Da or RDB or Usha Utthup or Anu Malik that is pita. That is my difinition of ghis pita. I have seen the success the reality singers got with these voices in last 4-5 years. If a singer is clone he/she have to beat the original to be counted otherwise nobody will listen them.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: diamond444



Without going into who can be considered as original voice as that will lead to controversy 😆, in general I agree with you that ultimately a singer has to sing in his/her own voice. If we follow the history of Hindi film music from its inauguration, we have always seen that whenever a singer has become successful, it is because he/she brings something new to the plate.

However one thing has to be noted. In film music especially, often when starts singing, one tries to imbibe the voice of original singer, e.g. Lataji's voice like Noor jehan, Mukesh voice like KL Saigal, etc in the early part of their career. Also, the points mentioned in gopalbhai's posts are extremely relevant and pertinent.

Also technical correctness in my view is only apparently and not in reality. I have seen contestants changing the composition to suit themselves. Instead of singers going up to the level of the composition, they bring down the composition to their level. As a result, the difficult parts of the song is not executed and the singer is apparently technically correct though in reality this is not the case. Also they tend to sing within a narrow range and fails miserably when given something outside their range. For gauging technical correctness, you need to check the difficulty level and range of compositions which they are singing.

In this show, till now we have six teams singing older compositions on Friday. If you will carefully compare what is being sung by the contestants and what was originally sung, you can easily get an idea of who stands where and what portions were difficult for a particular contestant (Though I must admit that in Mega Challenge barring a few cases in general, the contestants have tried to stay honest to the original tunes 👏).

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1. The above principle are general in nature and not specific to any instance(just some thoughts on my part 😊)

I agree with you 100%. It is too early to say who will succeed. And I also said success will come to those who has unique voice in general. But some member thought their favorites do not have unique voice and started defending his/her.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: mintyblue

I think you must be hallucinating if you think Abhigyan was singing in soemone else's voice. And most of us here happen to think he is a very good singer with a great voice quality. In fact both he and Priyanka have a great future ahead. so chill.

I said here in general term, even for Priyanka although she has unique voice and I like her voice but she can not be successful if she is not technically correct and keep adding new thing to her singing.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes, Anamika and Abhi were really good. No offense, but I wanted to puke when Joy sang. I really disliked every time he sang.🤢
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Posted: 15 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: HakkaBakka

Ghisa is those who sonuds like clone of other good singer and pita is those who sound like clone of other bad singers. If somebody sounds like Sonu or Kishore Kumar, that is ghisa and if somebody sound like Kumar Sanu or Himesh Reshammiya or Bappi Da or RDB or Usha Utthup or Anu Malik that is pita. That is my difinition of ghis pita. I have seen the success the reality singers got with these voices in last 4-5 years. If a singer is clone he/she have to beat the original to be counted otherwise nobody will listen them.

As per your logic, Sonu should also be considered a clone of Rafi as he is a self-confessed follower of Rafi and spent his intial years of struggle singing Rafi songs, and Kumar Sanu a clone of Kishore. So, the original unique male voices are Saigal, Rafi, Kishore, Hemant Kumar, Manna Dey, Kailash Kher, Udit Narayan, Bappida or Anu Malik (I wouldn't know anyone who would like to copy them though 😆) and maybe Kunal Ganjawala and some others. Rest all are clones. So what is unique and what is ghisa pita? As Mind- googgling mentioned, Ghisa pita seems like the clones of soothing voices like Rafi, Kishore and Udit Narayan and unique seems like clones of cracked unconventional voices like Kailash Kher. And since in competitions like Saregama, contestants sing other singers songs, their voices suit some other singers the most and does not suit some others. So they get branded as clones. Unfortunately, the soothing voice is the hero's voice and so sells more. Can you imagine Shahid Kapur or Sharukh Khan or Hrithik Roshan singing in Kailash Kher's voice? That kind of voice is normally set aside for background songs or songs sung by banjarans or some extras singing in the middle of a tense situation. I'm not degrading any kind of voice, but am saying that different kinds of voices have different flavors and every kind of voice is used in a different way in our Bollywood music. So why insult any kind of voice saying that it's ghisa pita?
BTW, I do not think that Abhigyan's voice or a clone of any other voice. He is very young, so we can't say at this stage. But listening to him today, I feel that his voice will turn out to be strong and manly, yet soothing and soulful😊. I only hope that he doesn't spoil it by exposing himself too much, as most of these contestants are doing and concentrates more on riyaaz.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: HakkaBakka

There is no future for those singers singing in other's voice. They can be successful only if they sing any song in their own voices otherwise there is no future, otherwise we should have seen many professional singers coming from SRGMP because lot of them were technically correct.

HakkaBakka ji, I think I don't know who in this industry did not sing in someone else's voice. See Mukesh and many others in Bollywood copied Saigal. If you listen to Lata Mageshkar, Asha Bhonsle's old songs it sounded like old (nasal) singers in their early days. Kumar Shanu, Abhijit, Sonu Nigam and others reminds me of Kishore Kumar, Mohd. Rafi e.t.c. So I am not sure why you keep saying ghisa pita singer. Let me point out even Raja sounds like Sukhwinder and I noticed that he prefers to sing his songs and he does a pretty good job of that too. There is nothing wrong with that. Furthermore remember these kids are only kids they have a long way to go, their voices are gonna go through metamorphosis like every one elses. I said they will be great singers if they keep up with their riyaz, work hard and remain down to earth. Let's be positive and encourage these singers.😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Abhigyan has a unique voice and apparently a good work ethic since even since Lil Champs he has improved I thought Anamika was ok. I like her better than priyanka when it comes to hitting the right note but Priyanka has a more interesting voice. As for Joy, I wish him a successful career as an MD!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#29
Abhigyan definitely is a good singer and more versatile....
Anamika is really OK over hyped & has degressed since her winning LC 2...
Assam was mainly saved by Golumolu Abhigyan.....
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Posted: 15 years ago
#30
I have the following success formula for a singer.
Playback singer Playback singer
Voice should be better than original
Diction Diction
Ability to modulate Ability to modulate
Good quality Voice Good quality voice
Unique Voice Already heard voice(Clone)
Perfect on Sur & Taal
Whether it is Abhigyan or Priyanka or Anamika or anybody else if they failed any of these basic criteria at any point of time can not be successful. Offcourrse there are more criteria than I listed, but for now I look these criteria. These are my criteria, others may have other.

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