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Summer3

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Posted: 16 years ago

#71

I think this topic has been discussed enough and there is no necessity to prolong any disagreements.

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Posted: 16 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: Surkilla

well said King. I like Salman, I don't know him personally but he comes across as a straight talker with not much diplomacy. Kind of person who gets attached to people, emotional you can say. Todays society thinks of such people as crazy, nonsense or lack of maturity. I still pity that guy that he fell so seriously in love with Aish and ruined his career because of that but am glad that people still go to his films and he is giving hits.

As far as killing a person goes, I am not an investigator their, don't know the facts and there is all kinds of politics involved around big people, they live altogether in a different world so I will keep my mouth shut.

salman does need improvement there is no doubt about that. king doesnt like drunk people.

however we have to understand that it was not intentional and it is not a criminal act. he should get the a penalty that is due for his misdeed. King doesnt have any problem with that. However problem is when people start involving underwolrd connections and inject other gossips into it.

King has done enough research on him and his higness has come to the conclusion that he is a extremely good hearted person but has a temperament. He even got angry with ruk ruk khan so where does himesh stand.

Salman does good with others, give them favors, quietly does charity work and when he doesnt get the same treatment then he looses it. This is his problem. He should carry low expectations.

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Posted: 16 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: Summer3
I think this topic has been discussed enough and there is no necessity to prolong any disagreements.

I agree however I had to reply to one post. thanks

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akanna

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: Megha25

A person's leg is only worth 10 lakhs just because their poor? If the same homeless person sued in the United States he would get millions in dollars. Goes to show you how people use their name and status to get out of a bad situation in India.
In an interview Salman said that we don't hunt that's why we have so much wildlife in our country yet he chose to hunt an extinct species rather foolish of him to say that.
He keeps acting foolish for some reason I still can't understand 😕

I dont want to comment on Salman here and have no intention of making a wrong right. But regarding the US part, the laws in US are entirely different from the rest of the world and so there is no point in comparing them against Indian laws (ours is closer to British laws). Also, the million dollar suing in US is not always paid from the defendent's pocket but it is also covered by his or her insurance company. A hit and run or even just hit itself in US will most likely end up in jail for the driver. At times, they look fair and at times, they dont. Also, there are many people who take advantage of such accidents and make a living on that money, something they couldnt even dream of making themselves otherwise, and there are many doctors and lawyers who would work to get that money for them as they also get a share of it. US is notorious with so many stupid suing cases - remember the McDonalds hot coffee case?

Anyway, when most rich people in India get away without paying a single dime for the victim, 10 lakhs is a good amount and that too he paid from his pocket. No money can bring the victim back or get his leg back, true, but what has happened is a done deal and nothing is going to change the past, so better to move on with the present and take it from there. We need to do the same with the way SRGMP 2009 is going now!!

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Posted: 16 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: shefali_123

Megha25,

ReemAnshu's homework was not proper or he must have forgotten certain facts because he has to keep track of so many "obnoxious criminals' like SanjayDutt, Salman Khan, Fardeen Khan etc.😉😆

After the accident, Salman wanted to help the victims and their families , but if he would have tried to contact any of them or anyone from his family or his lawyer they would have accused him of tampering with evidence.

But some NGO's approached the High Court of Mumbai to award compensation to the victims.

So the High Court ordered Salman to deposit Rs 25 lakhs as Compensation in the court which he did the very next day after the order was passed.

The money is still with the High Court caught in redtape and none of the victims have received the compensation amount though they are going to the court regularly to claim it. This is going on since 2002.

And Salman has not asked for any kind of pardon, there is no pardon in Indian law , he has pleaded " Not Guilty' to all charges and a trial is on in a Mumbai court regarding the same.

Also he is being tried for " negligent driving' after the Supreme Court in its order said that he should be tried for the less stringent charges and if there is any evidence on record during the trial to suggest that he has committed " culpable homicide not amounting to murder " , he should be tried for more stringent charges for which the maximum sentence is 10 years.

And about wildlife he said that after he was tried for poaching, arrested, has gone to jail a number of times for the same at various stages of trial and appeal, people are scared to poach and therefore the wildlife of our country (India ) has increased. This statement he has given only after all this happened and it happened in 1998 when he was shooting for Hum Saath Saath Hain in Jodhpur.

Again he has pleaded " not guilty" to all charges of poaching and is on trial and appeal for the same and still maintains he didnot do it.

I was just trying to help ReemAnshu here, he has such a lot of work to do keeping track of all these " obnoxious criminals".😃

I hope I could be of some help.😉

Don't worry Shefali. You won the debate and you are more convincing to the king.

This topic is nothing but an attempt to malign a good man. I am sure if we put a microscope on some of these people then we will be able to find many skeletons from the closet. It is easy to criticize others and manipulate others.

And the logic that if himesh is good so salman must be bad is foolish. King loves himesh more than salman yet king like salman as well. They had issues, they solved it ot not. King doesnt care and its none of king's buissiness

thanks again for your informative posts

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akanna

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Posted: 16 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: Summer3
I think this topic has been discussed enough and there is no necessity to prolong any disagreements.

Summer, you changed from blue to gold now? 😃 Anyway, I agree with you, and this topic has been diverted away from the original post now, plus nothing to do with music or SRGMP show...

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Summer3

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: akanna

Summer, you changed from blue to gold now? 😃 Anyway, I agree with you, and this topic has been diverted away from the original post now, plus nothing to do with music or SRGMP show...

Akannaji sorry for using some royal colours.😆 I was fixing my glasses.

Both have good and bad points like everyone else but that is not my prime concern as I myself am endowed with many faults.

Someone started a topic to say "Discuss only music"

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Ophelia

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu
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Megha25,

ReemAnshu's homework was not proper or he must have forgotten certain facts because he has to keep track of so many "obnoxious criminals' like SanjayDutt, Salman Khan, Fardeen Khan etc.😉😆

After the accident, Salman wanted to help the victims and their families , but if he would have tried to contact any of them or anyone from his family or his lawyer they would have accused him of tampering with evidence.

But some NGO's approached the High Court of Mumbai to award compensation to the victims.

So the High Court ordered Salman to deposit Rs 25 lakhs as Compensation in the court which he did the very next day after the order was passed.

The money is still with the High Court caught in redtape and none of the victims have received the compensation amount though they are going to the court regularly to claim it. This is going on since 2002.

And Salman has not asked for any kind of pardon, there is no pardon in Indian law , he has pleaded " Not Guilty' to all charges and a trial is on in a Mumbai court regarding the same.

Also he is being tried for " negligent driving' after the Supreme Court in its order said that he should be tried for the less stringent charges and if there is any evidence on record during the trial to suggest that he has committed " culpable homicide not amounting to murder " , he should be tried for more stringent charges for which the maximum sentence is 10 years.

And about wildlife he said that after he was tried for poaching, arrested, has gone to jail a number of times for the same at various stages of trial and appeal, people are scared to poach and therefore the wildlife of our country (India ) has increased. This statement he has given only after all this happened and it happened in 1998 when he was shooting for Hum Saath Saath Hain in Jodhpur.

Again he has pleaded " not guilty" to all charges of poaching and is on trial and appeal for the same and still maintains he didnot do it.

I was just trying to help ReemAnshu here, he has such a lot of work to do keeping track of all these " obnoxious criminals".😃

I hope I could be of some help.😉

BTW, my name is Reema and I am a 'she'.

You have all your 'facts' totally wrong ! This is what happens when you do not study anything in depth and comment on them.

- When there is a hit-n-run case as in the case of Salman khan, he cannot go about giving money to the victim's family. Any compensation has to be made in court. If he would have paid the victims' family any money, it would have been another criminal case against him. Offcourse, unofficially he can still go (may have already done) and buy the victim's family. But he cannot do it openly.

- Secondly, the compensation which the court asked him to pay is not the total compensation and nor the court was directed by anyone, it was a suo-moto order that he deposit part of the compensation to the court . He was ordered by High court to Pay 19 Lakhs out of which 5 lakh was the Medical bills of those injured and 14 Lakh was the part compensation to the victims family. THIS COMPENSATION CAN BE INCREASED AS IT IS PART AS OF NOW.

- The other fact which you have quoted is the the SUPREME COURT has overturned the charges, which is not true. The charges were initially of 'Negligent driving' it was then converted to 'Section 304 (cuplable homicide) after public out-cry. However these charges the HIGH COURT OF MUMBAI (Not supreme) has overturned (in 2003) and made it to section 279 (taking human life by rash driving) which has a min jail period of 2 years and a max of 7 yr. However in 2007, the prosecution lawyers have again re-filed a petition in view of additional evidence of the constables statement and the reports and have again asked the court to grant charges back under 304. This is still under hearing.

- Dont get me started on the poaching case as I will go on and on. I have information for the last 9 years on the case. I dont think this forum would be thr right place for so much information exchange. If you are in mumbai or ever come here, you can feel free to meet me and I will be glad to share with you.

I appreciate you trying to help me keep a track of these obnoxious criminals, but I think I will manage just fine.

Well said Reema. He pleaded Not Guilty to both cases though there were witnesses in both cases to prove he was lying that is why a rehearing is being filed. He paid compensation because the Court compelled him to compensate the injured parties it was not really an act of charity. I saw his NDTV interview that comment about wildlife increasing was made recently after the chinkara incident not in 1998. The man has court hearings still going on yet he continues to create controversies and bad mouth. You'd think he would try to mellow down in such a situation. Salman needs a good public rep he doesn't even know how to behave as a public figure.

Last post I will make on the "obnoxious Salman"

Edited by Megha25 - 16 years ago

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Summer3

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Posted: 16 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: Megha25

Megha25,

Megha you have always been nice and objective.

Generally Salman supporters will always love and forgive him no matter what the facts, quite akin to a woman who tolerates an intolerable husband ( guess they focus on his good side as he is quite good looking and has a macho image).

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mbharat2007

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Posted: 16 years ago

#80

Originally posted by: Summer3

Well said Reema. He pleaded Not Guilty to both cases though there were witnesses in both cases to prove he was lying that is why a rehearing is being filed. He paid compensation because the Court compelled him to compensate the injured parties it was not really an act of charity. I saw his NDTV interview that comment about wildlife increasing was made recently after the chinkara incident not in 1998. The man has court hearings still going on yet he continues to create controversies and bad mouth. You'd think he would try to mellow down in such a situation. Salman needs a good public rep he doesn't even know how to behave as a public figure.

Last post I will make on the "obnoxious Salman"

Megha you have always been nice and objective.

Love is blind (and perhaps deaf and dumb too!). People who are intolerable to the public or even dreaded criminals also manage to find lovers. Otherwise, why would Monica Bedi have fallen for Abu Salem?

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