Obnoxious Salman

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: chitra anand
Himesh is very decent.He doesn't talk much these days.coz when he talks people talk abt him,so he has understood that and he talks very less.Himesh is good at heart no doubt

Mataji your Himeshji has seen the light, soon he will be called Himesh Baba and he will don the ochre robes.😆

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: King Anu Lives

Well said. A person character is judge by what others say about that person. King is yet to see salman gloat about his charity work. Rather his higness has heard from countless others even in absence of slaman that how he helps others and secretly gives lots of money to needy.

The accusation that people support him for underworld connections just shows the dirty thinking of some and doesnt say anything about salman.. These are same people who blame everything that a community does to underworld connections.

As far himesh is concerned. yes he showed tremendous respect when salman had fun with him. Salman is kind of a person who is open and himesh must have rejected working with him and that has made salman mad.

himesh on the other hand has control over himself . even if he is guilty he will not show therefore he remined quite but deep inside he knew that he has done something bad like rejecting a film of salman while salman gave him a break

salman had similar problem with ruk ruk khan. ruk ruk did not come to salman's show while salman went to his. there could be professional commitments, career reasons so salman should not expect a lot.

well said King. I like Salman, I don't know him personally but he comes across as a straight talker with not much diplomacy. Kind of person who gets attached to people, emotional you can say. Todays society thinks of such people as crazy, nonsense or lack of maturity. I still pity that guy that he fell so seriously in love with Aish and ruined his career because of that but am glad that people still go to his films and he is giving hits.

As far as killing a person goes, I am not an investigator their, don't know the facts and there is all kinds of politics involved around big people, they live altogether in a different world so I will keep my mouth shut.

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Every person is different and so am I, for me to like or appreciate any person, the first quality which he needs to posses is that he has to be a good person for me and everything else comes in later.

I use to like Salman a lot in his early days but as time has gone by and I have personally witnessed one of his antics, since then I have taken a strong dislike.

You may call me old fashioned but I cannot seperate his personal and professional life when I look at him. I may appreciate his performance in a movie, but I cannot ever be his fan or admire him. For me he is a criminal and should be behind bars.

And some (i think Anu) said that it is about a community, then all I can say is PLEASE, it has nothing to do with community or religion. I like HR a lot, but if tomorrow he was involved in a serious crime and took the law for granted, at that very moment I would loose all respect for him.

It is similar to Sanjay Dutt, in the 80's as a growing kid, I loved him so much but again when he broke the law, just developed a strong dislike.

Any criminals who commit serious offences like abeiting terrorism, keepin AK-47's, killing people while driving in drunk condition, hunting animals, buying cocaine (Fardeen), etc will always remain criminals for me. I just HATE people who take the law for granted and use their position to get out of these things. If you do the crime then you must do the time.

You may find me wierd but I believe in this and I am very passionate about my belief, I just hate any form of Corruption or lawlessness and I will pray till my last breath that my country get rid of these evils. Hence for me, someone like a Salman Khan will always be Obnoxious.

I mean no offence to his fans, you may continue to love him, these are just my views which I am sharing and do not wish to impose them.

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: shefali_123
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You facts about the accident case has convinced me that you know Salman personally and you are an assistant lawyer in that particular case on the prosecution side.

You are doing your job well, keep it up, I am sure because of your hard work Salman will get life term, 3 years is too little.

God Bless you and All the Best!

You can even take help of the topic creator and all those who agreed with him, they will be more than willing to help you.😉

Dear Shefali, thanks for your good words. Although I am well educated, unfortunately I am not a lawer (as you may think). But I have been associated with an NGO for several years and it has given me a very good knowledge of Law / Politics / Regulations etc. But, If I was on the prosecution side then I would have tried my best to get him 10 years, which is what any man deserves when he takes the wheel in a drunk state and kills someone.

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: MrsAckles

AWW he does so much for charity. He has such a great big heart to give money to poor people. He should be given a special recognition by the Indian government for these kind gestures.

A person's leg is only worth 10 lakhs just because their poor? If the same homeless person sued in the United States he would get millions in dollars. Goes to show you how people use their name and status to get out of a bad situation in India.

In an interview Salman said that we don't hunt that's why we have so much wildlife in our country yet he chose to hunt an extinct species rather foolish of him to say that.

He keeps acting foolish for some reason I still can't understand 😕

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Its never too late to study law. You should be a little more proactive and help the Indian Govt in prosecuting people who are 'obnoxious criminals' according to you rather than posting on forums about how 'obnoxious' they are according to you.😉

All the best from me and I am sure there are people in this very forum who will be glad to help you, MrsAckles and Mahabharat2007 will take the lead I am sure.😛😃

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Summer3

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: shefali_123
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Its never too late to study law. You should be a little more proactive and help the Indian Govt in prosecuting people who are 'obnoxious criminals' according to you rather than posting on forums about how 'obnoxious' they are according to you.😉

All the best from me and I am sure there are people in this very forum who will be glad to help you, MrsAckles and Mahabharat2007 will take the lead I am sure.😛😃

A wrong is a wrong no matter how we argue. Salman himself also regrets his actions and I am sure is trying his best to mend his ways.

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: Megha25

A person's leg is only worth 10 lakhs just because their poor? If the same homeless person sued in the United States he would get millions in dollars. Goes to show you how people use their name and status to get out of a bad situation in India.

In an interview Salman said that we don't hunt that's why we have so much wildlife in our country yet he chose to hunt an extinct species rather foolish of him to say that.

He keeps acting foolish for some reason I still can't understand 😕

Megha25,

ReemAnshu's homework was not proper or he must have forgotten certain facts because he has to keep track of so many "obnoxious criminals' like SanjayDutt, Salman Khan, Fardeen Khan etc.😉😆

After the accident, Salman wanted to help the victims and their families , but if he would have tried to contact any of them or anyone from his family or his lawyer they would have accused him of tampering with evidence.

But some NGO's approached the High Court of Mumbai to award compensation to the victims.

So the High Court ordered Salman to deposit Rs 25 lakhs as Compensation in the court which he did the very next day after the order was passed.

The money is still with the High Court caught in redtape and none of the victims have received the compensation amount though they are going to the court regularly to claim it. This is going on since 2002.

And Salman has not asked for any kind of pardon, there is no pardon in Indian law , he has pleaded " Not Guilty' to all charges and a trial is on in a Mumbai court regarding the same.

Also he is being tried for " negligent driving' after the Supreme Court in its order said that he should be tried for the less stringent charges and if there is any evidence on record during the trial to suggest that he has committed " culpable homicide not amounting to murder " , he should be tried for more stringent charges for which the maximum sentence is 10 years.

And about wildlife he said that after he was tried for poaching, arrested, has gone to jail a number of times for the same at various stages of trial and appeal, people are scared to poach and therefore the wildlife of our country (India ) has increased. This statement he has given only after all this happened and it happened in 1998 when he was shooting for Hum Saath Saath Hain in Jodhpur.

Again he has pleaded " not guilty" to all charges of poaching and is on trial and appeal for the same and still maintains he didnot do it.

I was just trying to help ReemAnshu here, he has such a lot of work to do keeping track of all these " obnoxious criminals".😃

I hope I could be of some help.😉

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Originally posted by: shefali_123
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Its never too late to study law. You should be a little more proactive and help the Indian Govt in prosecuting people who are 'obnoxious criminals' according to you rather than posting on forums about how 'obnoxious' they are according to you.😉

All the best from me and I am sure there are people in this very forum who will be glad to help you, MrsAckles and Mahabharat2007 will take the lead I am sure.😛😃

Yeah a citizen has no right to complain about the ineptness of the judicial system in India. You got a problem with it, you become a lawyer. People also shouldn't complain about the corruption or politicians, you got a problem you become a politician to do it right.

You got a problem with the pollution levels, you become proactive and develop your own green fuel. You got a problem with the bus not coming on time, you go become a bus driver and always be on time.

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Reema

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Megha25,

ReemAnshu's homework was not proper or he must have forgotten certain facts because he has to keep track of so many "obnoxious criminals' like SanjayDutt, Salman Khan, Fardeen Khan etc.😉😆

After the accident, Salman wanted to help the victims and their families , but if he would have tried to contact any of them or anyone from his family or his lawyer they would have accused him of tampering with evidence.

But some NGO's approached the High Court of Mumbai to award compensation to the victims.

So the High Court ordered Salman to deposit Rs 25 lakhs as Compensation in the court which he did the very next day after the order was passed.

The money is still with the High Court caught in redtape and none of the victims have received the compensation amount though they are going to the court regularly to claim it. This is going on since 2002.

And Salman has not asked for any kind of pardon, there is no pardon in Indian law , he has pleaded " Not Guilty' to all charges and a trial is on in a Mumbai court regarding the same.

Also he is being tried for " negligent driving' after the Supreme Court in its order said that he should be tried for the less stringent charges and if there is any evidence on record during the trial to suggest that he has committed " culpable homicide not amounting to murder " , he should be tried for more stringent charges for which the maximum sentence is 10 years.

And about wildlife he said that after he was tried for poaching, arrested, has gone to jail a number of times for the same at various stages of trial and appeal, people are scared to poach and therefore the wildlife of our country (India ) has increased. This statement he has given only after all this happened and it happened in 1998 when he was shooting for Hum Saath Saath Hain in Jodhpur.

Again he has pleaded " not guilty" to all charges of poaching and is on trial and appeal for the same and still maintains he didnot do it.

I was just trying to help ReemAnshu here, he has such a lot of work to do keeping track of all these " obnoxious criminals".😃

I hope I could be of some help.😉

BTW, my name is Reema and I am a 'she'.

You have all your 'facts' totally wrong ! This is what happens when you do not study anything in depth and comment on them.

- When there is a hit-n-run case as in the case of Salman khan, he cannot go about giving money to the victim's family. Any compensation has to be made in court. If he would have paid the victims' family any money, it would have been another criminal case against him. Offcourse, unofficially he can still go (may have already done) and buy the victim's family. But he cannot do it openly.

- Secondly, the compensation which the court asked him to pay is not the total compensation and nor the court was directed by anyone, it was a suo-moto order that he deposit part of the compensation to the court . He was ordered by High court to Pay 19 Lakhs out of which 5 lakh was the Medical bills of those injured and 14 Lakh was the part compensation to the victims family. THIS COMPENSATION CAN BE INCREASED AS IT IS PART AS OF NOW.

- The other fact which you have quoted is the the SUPREME COURT has overturned the charges, which is not true. The charges were initially of 'Negligent driving' it was then converted to 'Section 304 (cuplable homicide) after public out-cry. However these charges the HIGH COURT OF MUMBAI (Not supreme) has overturned (in 2003) and made it to section 279 (taking human life by rash driving) which has a min jail period of 2 years and a max of 7 yr. However in 2007, the prosecution lawyers have again re-filed a petition in view of additional evidence of the constables statement and the reports and have again asked the court to grant charges back under 304. This is still under hearing.

- Dont get me started on the poaching case as I will go on and on. I have information for the last 9 years on the case. I dont think this forum would be thr right place for so much information exchange. If you are in mumbai or ever come here, you can feel free to meet me and I will be glad to share with you.

I appreciate you trying to help me keep a track of these obnoxious criminals, but I think I will manage just fine.

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