The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 71

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Posted: 7 years ago
WAs good to see Baldev taking a stand. I was curious when he said few epis back,"I'll do something drastic" and today he almost did just that. Isn't he lucky to have Satrupa by his side to talk some sense?
He saw his mother's suffering & decided to remove the cause in the best way he seemed bit.

Both daughter & father are bought into the illusion the Sas&bahu craeted😆

@Shruthi- i keep thinking of your writing in other forum on how vision is used to create illusion as this track is unfoldind👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
Honestly , i m little bit worry for this plan . May be some how anami find out that this is all plan of satrupa and dadi 😲😕. Than i don't imagine what she do ! And after seen sudha in that red sadi in some pics yesterday. 😭🤢😡. In daily shop , it's not that much easy to defeat villain without any rona -dhona and breakdown of ML !! So may be this plan work for some time but backfire badly to satrupa!😭 Or may be sudha now doing some drastic step after this little defeat! By the way i m so happy that baldev hate sudha so much 😆. But why he hate dhiru that much is a question 😉. May be from childhood he is insecure from him and his relations with satrupa add fire on it !
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Posted: 7 years ago
I also liked Adhi & Anami scene. He is open to seek the emotional support from her whenever he's troubled.Loved the symbolism of Dhiru's coffee and Anami's gudwala chai.

Guess, their roles will keep changing but they'll be there for each other 7 the first person to call in time of distress.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Shreya Baldev is really moving towards drastic steps. We dont know how long he can be stopped as Sudha will not sit quiet.
@Simran Maya or illusion which is played on eyes, where ego plays the major role, where feelings are ignored or not acknowledged and Leela which plays with feelings using the same vision to question the perception as Shreya rightly said. By the time illusion is broken some grave losses will happen for sure.
In the other forum I was analyzing metaphor Maya and was not at all going by the so called dialogues and mahan actions of certain individuals for which the whole bashing happened in that forum.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Dadi. 😲. kya acting tha. 😆.
I am a duffer like Anami. I will only post long messages but did not see through that 😳 . I thought why LM wasis were not reassuring Dadi by holding her hand and asking her to look into their eyes like Anami was. I thought kya cold and emotionally stunted people hain. Par ab tho kya chaalaak log hain. Perhaps this is what they call Raja Thanthiram which means cunning of a king in Tamil vs just cunning. Do all royal families have it in them to survive by any means ?

I I don't think anyone of LM wasis want to hurt Anami even Baldev and Vikram because somewhere they are all about the khoon and they realize Anami is their blood after the DNA test. But there is also the story of the boy crying wolf. You tell lies too many times even if your intentions are pure, it's still a web of lies and when the lied to finds out how can they trust again ? LM wasis say Sudha is a liar, but they have spun such an elaborate story. If Anami finds out tomorrow the little bit of relationship with Dadi will go too. That hand that she held yesterday will be left.

Trust is a precious thing. It comes only through truth. There is a line in the Baji Rao movie where Kashi says to Baji Rao "Paraya log se kya shikayathen, gaao tho apnon ke zayada chukthe hain" when he says he and Mastani must have hurt her. What Dadi did to Anami is a betrayal of trust. It will hurt when Anami finds out. Hers was the hand that Anami held, the one she trusted, the one she took as Apna. Now those hands that did her hair are jhooti like Sudha's. How do you know who is true in that situation ? Those hands that did her hair, both Sudha's and Dadi's tended to her hair like Panditayen. But unlike Panditayen, proven jhooti.

I am reminded of the Lotus symbolism. Today Anami is the lotus. She is used to the flowing river of the holy ganges. Even though it is heavily polluted I am not sure the lotus blooms there as the water flows. But LM is the still, polluted water and Anami needs to sift through the truth when both sides are not clear until truth rises.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Everyone in LM is playing mind games to get Anami on their side, except Baldev ! They have been keeping Baldev-Anami interaction completely out, something is definitely on the cards. I do see Baldev becoming a key player once Anami is fully trapped in the chakravyuth. May be after she gets to know about Dadi's betrayal


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Posted: 7 years ago
Very curious what people know.

I find it very curious Baldev does not know Dadi is acting. Vikram must know something ? Why are they not telling Baldev anything ? Are they afraid Sudha will seduce it out of him ?

Baldev was the heir. He was expected to behave and remain in some boundaries. Perhaps his life was so structured he rebelled ? He is after all the father of Vatsalya who felt the same cloistered feeling in the palace. Vatsalya found his freedom by running, did Baldev find it through Sudha ? Sudha for all her chalakness seems to be a very earthy sort of woman. Cooking, making achar, telling stories to the children. She once said she was good. What struck me with Baldev and Sudha's photo is how happy he looks. The only time I have ever seen that look is during the Vatsalya Naamkaran when he was born. Will any LM heir be allowed to be simply happy or does the crushing weight of duty decided by others dictate their lives ?

Another curiosity is what Dheeru knows. Everyone knows about or goes to a marriage and a funeral. So was the funeral of Purushotam open or chupke ? How did he go there ? Obviously not through an obituary in a paper since the CBI would know then. So who told him ? What is the connection ? They said Sudha escaped 6 years ago, Purushottam died 5 years ago. I always suspected Dadi was the one who offed Purushotam. Was Dheeru the one who carried out the deed ? Dheeru is Krishna to me. What I also remember is while Krishna did not openly fight he manipulated the war and in a way decided the fate of people.

Again lots of questions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
A game of chess is played with moves and counter moves till you checkmate the king . The queen is very powerful. The palace intrigues are enough to indicate the complicated life they lead to merit ' Uneasy lies the head that wears a friend's.
We have seen how every step of Sudha, has been an elaborate mind game. The suicide drama, the Pooja thali, the dahi shakkar, the photo planting when Satrupa discovers Naina, the eating from Baldevs plate, the scorpion and even in the cricket match. The way she constantly manipulates and pushes others to a corner had to be countered.
She had created a Maya valai around Anami and she was trapped easily.
Something drastic to get her see the web's had TT o happen. So as a checkmate warning this was needed
I hope Dheeru has a bigger role than dropping key hints like go to the pagal khana or Purushothamams funeral few years ago.
If that illusion of projecting death is possible by the brother, escaping the asylum and feigning stuff seems child play I'm rajathandhiram .

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Posted: 7 years ago
@mangothyme what you see with your eyes is Maya. What you feel with your heart and validated with head is the truth 😃. If you look Dheeru has this perfect balance, he kind of knows what will happen and he is using his son as the most important pawn in the game of justice. He is only giving hints and I expect him to do that only. Because the illusion cannot lift before the right time. He is weaving a web, a larger web is my take, a web no one realizes. Just like he took the 50% stake in RS, his cards will open up at the right time. Somehow with the present situation I feel Adhi to be Arjun and Anami to be the Panchali, the woman born out of fire to take down the ethos of LM.
See all royal families and families such as LM wasis has skeltons and they expect their heirs to toe a line. If rebelled methods are used to put them in line. Love is not something they accept as that royal gene is important to them and they marry based on that ethos only. For me Baldev has rebelled and Sudha was his relief before something happened and he was taken away. We need to see whether Gayatri and Vikku has build an illusion for him and Satrupa also. Because Anami refuses to take Satrupa hand, but take dadi hand. For me Satrupa is more trustworthy than Dadi any time. Because Satrupa tells the rules upfront and if rules are obeyed she doesnt disturb you. She doesnt look or behave the way Sudha or Gayatri behaves but any day she is capable of handling more things and she is a person who will stand in line of fire if it matters. For Anami the lesson has to be just because people behave in a way similar to Pandhitayan they need not be Pandhithayan. Also just because someone is rude, harsh upfront that doesnt mean that person is outright bad. This vision correction has to happen for Anami. But before that it has to happen for Satrupa where she will have to choose between the outdated LM ethos that took away her son and the child who will suffer a similar fate if she chose those ethos.

The problem is the so called reeti, neeti and parampara of LM that expects a person to follow a straight line with rigid boundaries. Its double standards that snatches things from others to meet their needs.

@vidya queen is critical in any battle. Satrupa is the queen of LM who will go any extend to protect it. Sudha is trying to take that place from opposite side. But before things can go awry we have to create a third queen. And we need to see who that queen will protect. In front of which king she will stand and it will make all the difference in the battle.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Roja Baldev will come out when Anami tries to protect the Shakthi of LM. He will be her first support.

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