The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 54

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Posted: 7 years ago
Guys yesterday Anami talked about the human dharma. I thought I will put a few points about human dharma as I understand it. Though I wont say I knew everything about Bhagavad Gita as a person who has read it, who has read its multiple translations these are some of the rules I follow in observing human dharma.
- First and the foremost we all need to accept we have all the 3 energies within us. Satva, rajo and tamo. This is very important as every human has it. People try to negate that they dont have tamo in them or rajo in them. It is not true. We have. Satva is all your noble ideals and noble actions, rajo is your aspirations to get things the right way or rather I would say using Purusharth of wealth and power the right way, tamo is your moh inside you, desires inside you which you want at any cost, doesnt matter who suffers or who dies, you simply wants it. Now it is upto us how we manage this 3 energies. Tamo can be used constructively to burn the darkness around you as a lamp and you need to learn that.
- Self is important. Self defense is important and if someone tries to harm you, you have every right to defend yourself. You should show the other cheek only and only if you have the capability to hold the hand before it can slap you. Simply showing other cheek is your weakness, holding the hand is your power. Forgiveness add value only if you have power. Money is important. It is the transactional currency that we need to live our life. Attain it through right means, use it for right causes. Most importantly money has to flow. If it doesn't flow it stagnates and no life thrives in stagnated water.

- If you dont defend yourself, if you dont stand up for the injustice that is happening to you, then you are also a adharmi. That's why sometimes the severe punishment comes for a hypocrite than a real bad person.

- If at any point of time your dharma as a wife, mother, bahu, father, son contradicts with human dharma, if any of your vachan contradicts with human dharma which is empathy then we have to chose human dharma. We might fail the battle, but for sure will win the war. For example I have a right to defend my son who is not a criminal, but if I am defending my son who is a criminal because I am mother or a father, intentionally destroying proofs, killing or maiming real victims then it is not a justifiable act. It is not and the person doing that is not a human.

- Accept the mistakes. We are humans. For our need we might unintentionally harm people. Know it happens. Ask for forgiveness from Lord. Though we will have to pay for our unintentional mistakes also, Lord's blessing will ensure impact is reduced.

- Someone might fool you. But when someone extends their hand towards you for help, take it. Cheating you is their problem, they will get for their karma. But the hand is extended to you because you have power to help. Everyone deserves a chance so please give chance. You can cautious in certain cases, but dont deny the chance and dont turn away the person without trying to help earnestly. Dont make judgement based on one incident or one person and extend the same to others.

- If someone trust you earnestly, had held your hand earnestly never let go of that hand. Go any extend to protect that trust. Trust of your loved ones is your greatest power and we need to understand it is priceless and cannot be bought by money , can be bought only through your actions, when you abide with the human dharma in the tiring circumstances.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Superb analysis Shruthi.Abhimanyu is definitely needed to bhed the Chakravyuh created by whom? Vikram Singh? Sudha? Purushotham? I think satrupa knows the answer . She will not allow any harm to track ' laddoo' . She will create an illusion of threat to him by Sudha to bring Anami to her senses.Anami will do the rest. But Satrupa does not have any right to do that.Thus is satrupa's karma which she will have to pay for. Satrupa has no choice but to select an Abhimanyu who is not aware of Sudha's ways. But I do not understand how satrupa has ignored Pujan so far . LM has totally ignored this aspect . For which they will have to pay.I hope Satrupa's character is kept intact throughout the show without trying to paint her white or any other colour
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Posted: 7 years ago
@usha though it looks like Sudha, I would say you can get away with anything attitude LM wasis are born and bred with is the creator of this Chakravyuha. The 7 generation where they didnt had a girl in the family and might have used girls from other families for the so called heir and heir alone, bred patriarchy, created a man like Baldev whose mess he expects someone else to clean up. So to break that Chakavyuh created in LM in 7 generations has to be broken. The thoughts of men, the black and white thoughts. In those thoughts colors has to come. For colors to come , first the red color has to go.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Guys today's analysis most probably i will post tomorrow only as I will be travelling and wont see the show at its regular time.
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Posted: 7 years ago
i'm connecting Sudha's laugh y'ay which Pujan has mis-interpreted to Panchali's laugh that offended Duryodhan, which was a major trigger.

So much symbols Shruthi!Wish we had a thread for taht.
Looking forward to your take.Looks like we're entering the war zone😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi loved your take on the three gunas of human. With examples to when adharma happens 👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
Filler episode, but so many interesting little vignettes that will come together later. This is what I like about the show, the writing.
I like Pujan because despite him trying at every turn to kill or harm Anami and Vatsalya, he is this wonderful father and husband. The relationship with Avdoot who is cruel and beats Narottam just to hurt him or show superiority is really nice. Avdoot could be considered a black character, but he is such a good son who walks with his injured father, supporting him. He also stands behind his dad as he takes care of Kamini. The laugh they share, fearsome Pujan begging him not to tell Kamini all endear this family to me. They are so bonded and faithful to each other. So when Avdoot said yesterday he chose his family over everything, it makes sense. He is ruthless with outsiders, but with his family, he is tender, caring, a good son who helps his parents, is respectful to them, has a friendship with his father. Actually the best parent child relationship in LM. Pujan and Kamini are good parents.

Contrast that with Satrupa and Anami. The one that does the little things that bond a girl child to her mother is not between them, but with Dadi and Anami and most of all Sudha and Anami. For a child like Anami ripped from a loving, hands on mother who cooked her favorite dishes, braided her hair, made her lie on her lap, taught her to pray, scolded her when she got out of line, Madhoo is the mother she knows. Satrupa and Dadi are rich enough to have others cook for them, they may not even know how to cook. But still Dadi manages to bond with Anami through the braids. Physical gestures of caring matter. Anami associates those with caring and love. Anami does not have one moment like that with Satrupa. The way she bonds with Vatsalya is different. It's music mostly. I find it interesting Dadi knows how to bond with Anami with these little physical gestures but not Satrupa. I would like to find more about their background. Today Anami said sorry to Satrupa that she hurt her. Could be a start of something ?

Vikram and Satrupa relationship is curious. Vikram who they say wants only males as waris seems to trust Satrupa most. She looks to him most for advice, not Dadi or Baldev. Their bond is mutual. He is more than fil to her, more like a mentor and she his student. Baldev and Satrupa is just sad to see.

Last, the whole going to Benaras thing. Satrupa needed to go to Benaras to know who Anami is. She spent 17 years there. She is Benarasi raised by the Pathaks. But Satrupa's intentions are all wrong. Even Vikram warns her. I like that because he seems ruthless but considerate. Satrupa seems just ruthless.

The children of the Pathaks, both Anami and Ladoo are not like a fixed deposit which you put in a bank, expect to grow and pull out whenever you want. They are loved children and part of a family. Satrupa thinks she can just ask, threaten and take, use them for whatever. She has no respect or gratitude to the Pathaks. She probably has more respect for bank managers who make her money grow. This ruthlessness and selfishness will destroy her. Satrupa is not LM khoon, she just married into them. But she seems the most keen to continue their way of life whatever the sacrifice. RS employees are just a bahaana. They just want their dynasty from their khoon. Except in this case, Anami will be the Tsunami that wipes them if anything happens to Laddoo.
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Posted: 7 years ago
If anything happens to ladoo. i do not want to see anami ever forgiving satrupa in her life.
I dont understand what satrupa wants to do by bringing laddo, if she would have got the parents too i can understand she can use them to make anami understand re sudha. but what does she want to do with ladoo
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Posted: 7 years ago
.@MangoT- Lovely post.
Satruopa did make soup for Anami once & she refused.She's shown making tea for Dadi & BD.
IMO, Satrupa was as good a mother to Vatsalya as Madhu was to Anami.Seeing Vatsalya massage his Mom, i think, they had many more physical bondings & not just a cerbaeral connect.

I want to wait & see what she has in mind by bringing Laddoo.She might be ruthless but she's not stupid to endanger himm, that'll be end of everything for LM, she knows Anami will burn everything.
And why would the Pathaks allow their son to be taken away?Tehy put up a fight for Anami, Laddo is their own.Unless Satrupa cnvinces Madhu, she won't get her Abhimanyu easily.

I'm wondering whether Dadi will use Adhi the same way.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruthi loved the analysis of the Gunas and how we all are blend of the three. The three in varying ratios at varied moments blend to make us who we are.
The yin and the yang is there in each of us and our actions stem from that.the choices we make stem from that. the left and the right brai n refers to the creative and logical brain based action of ours.
Our prarabdha is our opening balance of karma we bring to this life the purshartha what we deposit to the account. If what we have carried forward is more of liabilities, we ha to work harder we have to face the consequences of that. When we see a person suffer at times we wonder at the karma to their credit.the fulfilling of duties is a karma. Doing it well and shoddily or avoiding it are the ways we operate our account.
It isoften said what we experience is the consequence of that credit and debit to our account.

Bhesma suffered enduring the cumulative curse that the ashta vasus were cursed to. krishnawatched his entire clan destroy itself as aconsequence of Gandharva curse. The protector himself had to pay or suffer for his action.

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