The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 117

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: usharanganathan

I think so too Simran.Damo will take the blame but not before doing something, unintentionally which will increase the heat on Satrupa. I think Anami will get to the truth by herself.Because Pathak and Adhi

also advise her .While Sudha is busy silencing Laddoo, I think Pujan will try to Satrupa down.



I'm very confident Laddo will support Sat. and bring down Sudha.Quite a few foreshadowing , he wanted to banish Sudha from LM after Anami moved her to guest house.
May be I'm reading too much in his drawing, it was him and Anami in super hero costumes, guess this pair will tackle this.

Adhi might be nudged by his father/sister to look at Sudha again, her real motive in killing PT.
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Posted: 7 years ago
The repeated reference to Satrupa as Matlabi and self centred was negated by her stance yesterday. In a moment of weakness she chose to hide Ladoo to bring out the truth but it backfired and she is remorseful.
Sudha on the other hand wants to keep her hurt alive to be motivated to avenge the death of her brother.
The conversation between Sudha and Narottam and Satrupa and Narottam were both very significant. It not only distinguishes the two women but the response of Narottam to the two women and how he is different for Sudha and Purushottam.
Damoo has been the conscience of Satrupa now in a desperate bid to save Satrupa wishes Ladoo remains mute and is very angrily chided by Satrupa. It shows the character of Satrupa she will not put innocent lives as a shield to defend her. She cannot play the victim card and mop in a corner hatching plots. She takes a bull by its horns.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Somehow I feel whatever Daamo does to save Satrupa can result in Satrupa getting crucified as Pujan might latch on it. He desperately wants Satrupa out of LM so that he can claim stakes to LM and RS. I somehow feel that is why 50% of RS is with Dheeru, as if Satrupa falls still RS doesnt come in a platter to Pujan. LM it belongs to Anami and Anami alone.
@simran, Sudha has to undo herself. The scene where Sudha frightens Ladoo reminded me of EHT where Sakshi does the emotional rape of Payal bringing her back those memories to the mentally unstable girl. It was a beautiful episode where Sakshi was challenging the power of Maa Durga as her face and idol was shown juxtaposed. By doing that worst adharma to Payal she started undoing herself. Her power as Maa started negating. And whatever she does, she was undone with the same thing.

Similar thing is gonna happen to Sudha. Terrorizing an innocent child is going to be her worst adharma. Her power as the victim of LM is going to go with that. Because nothing can justify what she is doing to the 10 yr old. Now whatever steps she will take, her undoing will happen with the same steps.

@vidya yesterday episode showed what kind of a woman Satrupa is. Yes she did a mistake, but she is willing to take it head on, than trying to escape from the consequences of correcting that mistake. While Sudha did a crime and she found ways to justify it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
VEry interesting article on polygamy and war.. let me blame BD😆

https://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21732695-plural-marriage-bred-inequality-begets-violence-link-between-polygamy-and-war?fsrc=scn/tw/te/rfd/pe

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Posted: 7 years ago
@simran it is a fact. There is a very interesting take of Ramayana where it is said why Ram took only one wife. Because of the perils he saw of his polygamous father, the way he died asking mercy from a woman. And to a great extend that aspect did bring stability to Ayodhya as Ram's two sons born of Sita were the only legal heirs.
MB why it happened, because Shantanu lusted on Satyavati, and Bhishma took the vow so that his father gets a second wife. End result the kurushetra war, where along with polygamy and polyandry was also followed 😃

And if you read about various Indian empires we all will come to know the reason they were vanquished is because of multiple sons fighting for the same throne
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Posted: 7 years ago
Amazing message from the pope so true if we are able to understand and live that way conflicts can be avoided.



Look what a speech Pope Francis gave in yesterday's sermon! It's to read and reread several times ...
This is the Pope with the greatest spirituality since Peter.

"You can have flaws, be anxious, and ever angry, but do not forget that your life is the greatest enterprise in the world. Only you can stop it from going bust. Many appreciate you, admire you and love you. Remember that to be happy is not to have a sky without a storm, a road without accidents, work without fatigue, relationships without disappointments.To be happy is to find strength in forgiveness, hope in battles, security in the stage of fear, love in discord. It is not only to enjoy the smile, but also to reflect on the sadness.It is not only to celebrate the successes, but to learn lessons from the failures.It is not only to feel happy with the applause, but to be happy in anonymity. Being happy is not a fatality of destiny, but an achievement for those who can travel within themselves. To be happy is to stop feeling like a victim and become your destiny's author. It is to cross deserts, yet to be able to find an oasis in the depths of our soul. It is to thank God for every morning, for the miracle of life. Being happy is not beig afraid of your own feelings. It's to be able to talk about you. It is having the courage to hear a "no". It is confidence in the face of criticism, even when unjustified. It is to kiss your children, pamper your parents, to live poetic moments with friends, even when they hurt us. To be happy is to let live the creature that lives in each of us, free, joyful and simple. It is to have maturity to be able to say: "I made mistakes". It is to have the courage to say "I am sorry". It is to have the sensitivity to say, "I need you". It is to have the ability to say "I love you". May your life become a garden of opportunities for happiness ... That in spring may it be a lover of joy. In winter a lover of wisdom. And when you make a mistake, start all over again. For only then will you be in love with life. You will find that to be happy is not to have a perfect life. But use the tears to irrigate tolerance. Use your losses to train patience. Use your mistakes to sculpter serenity. Use pain to plaster pleasure. Use obstacles to open windows of intelligence. Never give up ... Never give up on people who love you. Never give up on happiness, for life is an incredible show. "
(Pope Francisco).
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Posted: 7 years ago
Thanks to her flawed nature, I am relishing when she is trapped in her own web. I am rooting for her but I am not shedding tears for her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I hope they don't drag this part much longer. I am getting bored. I'd like to know the past, Anami's transformation into the deserving heir, Sat's redemption (but it has to be pure hearted not show for daughter), Sudha's punishment, Pujan being kicked out, Baldev suffering (probably he too will die along with Narottam) and finally mother daughter milan before SP decides to stop this serial. I know this is a daily soap, but I tend to get bored after a point in time.
One more thing, I sincerely hope there is no love track in this serial except may be Avdhoot- Tanya.
BTW, PP and MP r hardly speaking to their children, Naina is roaming freely, security is having meetha paan in LM.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@simran it is a fact. There is a very interesting take of Ramayana where it is said why Ram took only one wife. Because of the perils he saw of his polygamous father, the way he died asking mercy from a woman. And to a great extend that aspect did bring stability to Ayodhya as Ram's two sons born of Sita were the only legal heirs.

MB why it happened, because Shantanu lusted on Satyavati, and Bhishma took the vow so that his father gets a second wife. End result the kurushetra war, where along with polygamy and polyandry was also followed 😃

And if you read about various Indian empires we all will come to know the reason they were vanquished is because of multiple sons fighting for the same throne



Shruthi, even in contemporaneity Indian politics, wherever the party leaders have/had multiple wives, the infighting between the step children has been a source of instability.Mulayam's second wife,Karunandhi's second wife,NTR's second wife have all caused trouble.
It's totally different issue that parties are supposed to be democratic. I'm talking abt polygamy's effect in dynastic politics.
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Posted: 7 years ago
26/11/2017

What is seen with your eyes is Maya. What you think is the truth. Your thoughts manifests itself in front of you. Your judgement is based on your perception of right and wrong. What we saw today was the live demonstration of the above lines. Sudha terrorizes Ladoo, she makes him believe if he opens his mouth she will harm his Anami didi. This action is not seen by anyone. Only a terrorized Ladoo is seen. Then Satrupa comes and tell him the story of the brave little prince who saved the princess conquering his fear. I am damn sure the incident that will give Ladoo back his voice will be threat to Anami and a need in him to protect her. Or rather only he is there to protect, somehow he will have to do it irrespective all past failures. Superman with the princess that is Ladoo, the picture. But what is seen once the story is told, Ladoo is reminded of Sudha and he pulls the bedsheet around him. Remember the shot Ladoo fires and falls. He has reached that condition. The bullet has made him fall but in a soft bed, yet he is fallen. Fear is in his imagination. It is not known who terrorizes him. Because even if Satrupa encourages him, the boy will remember Sudha only and will freak out which can indicate Satrupa did something to him.

Adhiraj is also suspecting Satrupa more than Sudha. He forgot it seems what happened to his father. How he was convicted. I am sure Dheeru would have done mistake which became crime. Which was proven crime. Adhiraj forgot in LM what is seen doesnt happen and what happens is not seen. So now both Adhiraj and Anami are going to move around Satrupa with their needle of suspicion after what they observed in reaction to the toys with respect to Sudha and Satrupa. The half finished words of Purushottam also points to Satrupa. Matlabi mataji, power hungry woman all these perceptions are going to crucify her, with the voice of two people who could support her muffled out. Ladoo who is in trauma and Narotham who is blackmailed.

I loved the anguish of Narotham, the realization of Narotham what kind of a woman his mother is, who can terrorize a child to achieve her means. what I liked the most about that scene was Sudha is breaking the smiley ballons while Narotham breaks the flower pot in front of her house. It shows Sudha had the option of happiness with her son, but she herself is breaking those options of happiness and whatever she is trying to build, whatever seed she has sowed that will be destroyed by her son. Narotham loves gardening, his breaking that flower pot shows he is going to break something that is dear to him, mostly his mother's cherished dreams or her plans and it will happen unknowingly in anger but he will not regret it.

Satrupa is rattled. She has understood in a moment what Anami has done. What I liked the most was her sentence, the mistake will not be repeated, but none should know my hand in the whole fiasco. Now needs to see how this line plays out. Becuase Ladoo has to get voice, but none should know her involvment in the whole issue. Till yesterday for Satrupa it was only Anami knowing. But with the CBI officer involved if she is going to arrested for kidnapping Ladoo then the dirty linen of LM will be washed in public. The honor of LM will touch rock bottom. So it feels like she will try to stop Adhi most probably as she cannot afford to get arrested. But then whatever she is trying to do will create more mess only.

Another interesting aspect I noted was both ladies Sudha and Satrupa were given Yellow sarees. Sudha had red blouse, but Satrupa both yellow. Satrupa's yellow was more pleasant and soothing to eyes, while that of Sudha was dark yellow. It kind of showed for me in a way they both are same, yet there is difference between them. As I said yesterday also one is dusk, the other is dawn.

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