The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 112

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@simran that scene was very symbolic, Anami leaving Adhi hand and running towards Ladoo thus giving adharmis an upper hand. She couldnt just hold on till he bought the reinforcements. She couldnt trust him enough. She decided to fight it out on her own. Yes she chooses heart over head, but she has to grow up to balance it out. Satrupa chooses head. That's her problem.



I think more than lack of trust, her love& attachment to Laddoo over took her. He couldn't hold her back,inspite of trying his best. She trusted him enough when he told her not to venture outta Lm and after they spotted Laddoo.

I was also happy to see Adhi getting Laddoo off the JCB and giving him to Anami, he delivered on his promise he made infrontof Kalima.Literally and figuratively the long arms of law helping innocents😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
According to vyasa bharatha, Subhadra is in her brother's house while she was pregnant with Abhi. Pandavas were in their vanavasa at that time. Narada comes on a visit to Dwaraka. Subhadra is feeling restless, so Narada starts telling how to enter thus vyuh. Subhadra falls asleep when he has just finished the entry part.
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Posted: 7 years ago
No one is master of the universe, even Queens is the theme of the episode for me.
I find watching the Crown and RKC side by side is helping me understand two characters better, one fictional Satrupa and the other real, Queen Elizabeth. Both put duty above self, both protect royal houses, both sacrifice a lot of personal things, both are hard to understand and both are hard to like or dislike. They have enormous power and influence that makes them have power over individual lives and make decisions for others that come back to haunt them.

In the case of QE, the forbidding of her sister to marry a divorcee. Princess Margaret is not particularly a nice person, she is annoying and QE is a better person. But my sympathy lies with Princess Margaret because she was the one who suffered because of her sister's decision. Karma hit back not once, not twice, but three times in the next generation when three of QE kids divorced. Princess Margaret herself divorced, but her two children are still married and in strong marriages, Karma ? Both good and bad. Why ? In my view the control the queen wanted over who was considered good enough for her family blew up in her face.

Satrupa loves controlling things. Ladoo was a small child in Benaras happy with his parents, missing his sister. He need not have been brought to LM. It could be argued it was Satrupa's majburi to bring him in because Anami brought Sudha. But Satrupa had already waged war with Sudha successfully once before. She could have done it without Ladoo. She wanted control over Anami so she brought Ladoo. She does like Ladoo, she will not intentionally harm him, she will even take a bullet for him. But her primary reason is always Anami. Control over Anami, love of Anami. Nathija kya ? Now Karma is hitting.

Satrupa may lose the one person for whom she did everything. Her one living child Anami because of her actions. Anami will either live and find out what Satrupa did and she may lose her that way or Anami may die. Anami will sacrifice herself for Ladoo. She is still Panditayen and Pandit's daughter. She is first and foremost grateful to them for raising her with love, what she has with Ladoo is more precious than being LM's heir. She will die for him. That is why Daroga cannot save her. Even if he is willing to take the bullet speeding towards her or Satrupa is, as long as Ladoo is in play Anami will put him first and die for him. Satrupa should not have brought Ladoo at all. Her need for control over Anami blew up in her face.

It comes down to this. How we approach relationships. Honesty, trust, communication are all the reasons a relationship works. Control does not and never worked with a person of free will. Satrupa could not control Heera Singh, Damo, Anami, Daroga, Purushottam, Sudha or even Pujan. Each and every person will influence the outcome. So do the right thing, the hard thing each time not the selfish thing. Be very clear on the why.

I liked Daroga very much today. Not filmy at all. I like that he was not superhero saving Anami, Ladoo and beating up multiple villains single handed. He is finally subdued and it is more realistic.

I want to mention my favorite villain here. I was missing Pujan babu and here he was again. He is like achaar and papad. A good meal can be had without them, even a great meal but these two add another layer to the swaad. My experience of RKC is always better when Pujan babu makes an appearance. 😆

I also want to mention Satrupa's and Gayathri's saris. What pleasant colors. Shruti, any significance in colors ? Very good episode again.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@simran when mother wins, bahu will automatically wins but not vica versa. Hence for me Sat has to win as a mother, but for that she has to lose as a bahu. And yes at this point BD-Sudha-Satrupa does look like Charles-Diana-Camilla. Though Diana's death is a sad incident, the fact that she walked out of the marriage ensured her children got the right to choose their life partners, so in a way she did win as a mother and a woman. Else if she had remained in that suffocating marriage maybe William and Harry also would have to follow whatever tradition that royal family followed.

@mangothyme you are absolutely right. In the name of bahu if you ignore the foundation of the family ie being a wife well whatever you do the foundation will fall. Because if you are wife you are automatically every other relation as per the situation bahu, chachi, devrani, bhabi, you play all the roles as required. It is like being wife you are bahu, but being a bahu you need not be a wife. Wife is that relation that connects you to husband's family. If he breaks that relation you need to see what good it has come of being bahu, whether your husband's family stand with him or with you. There is a tamil movie Samsaram oru Minsaram. I love this movie where Lakshmi comes and ask in the end when all the problems are solved. You had disagreements with your son, but what did I do. I came with your grand child, none came to take aarti for me or the baby, none helped me directly when I needed help with the baby. So whatever I did for this house didnt matter. I am not independant , I am only connected with your son. Yes we lived separately and going forward also we will be separate. We will come during weekends, that is good for everyone concerned. It was one hell of a movie with the most relevant questions asked. Whenever I see Satrupa I am reminded of Uma, but instead of bahu, Uma was a wife. But Satrupa is playing with the perception than the reality.

@Janas, Usha Satrupa is going to be in trouble and it is not going to be easy for her to come out. Actually Sudha wins because of Satrupa and her insecurities. Sudha wins because of hypocrisy. Sudha cannot stand in front of mother Satrupa, but yes she can win against the hypocrite LM bahu.

Now the question is what happened between Heera Singh and Purushottam. Where is Heera Singh and how Purushottam managed to escape.


Is this the Visu movie with the Kannama, Gamunu kadaa comedy track with Manorama ? Very good movie. I agree Satrupa reminds me of Uma.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Athene

I wanted to take a few moments to analyze the precap. Purushottam is ready to kill someone whether it be Anami, Ladoo, or Satrupa. He will kill someone. But is it really just one of these three?

Somewhere I feel no. I feel he might not be on Sudha's side any longer either though it appears as such. Purushottam is a smart man. He cannot be swayed just by a few words. But at the same time, he knows what his sister is really worth. Hence his words in the precap, "I know not to trust anyone". He doesn't trust Sudha either.

Now everyone is caught and Purushottam has the upper hand. He can shoot and kill anyone. But why make it so simple? He can tell the truth and then kill. It's not like the person can come back and take revenge. That's what he's about to do. Reveal the truth of Vatsalya's death. Reveal the truth of what led to this chakravyuh.

But then a bullet rings out. As per the article we know that Ladoo and Anami are safe. So is Satrupa. There's a Jagrata being held for the wellbeing of Ladoo. That means these 3 are not shot. Then who is? There are 3 possibilities:
  1. Purushottam - CBI makes an on-time entry and takes down Purushottam. Notice I say shot, not killed.
  2. Sudha - Purushottam finally snaps and shoots Sudha either because he doesn't trust her or to make Anami start trusting her again. Sudha can give a sob story that Purushottam kidnapped Narottam and she had to help her brother.
  3. Adhiraj - He tries to get away and so Purushottam shoots him.
Of these 3 I think the first is the most likely option because shooting (even if it's just an arm shot) Sudha doesn't make sense. Anami is not someone who can be fooled so easily again. Plus Narottam was around when Ladoo was originally kidnapped. Adhiraj has been hit in the face and he's not your filmy superhero who just gets up and continues going even after taking 10 bullets to the chest. He's down. At most he'll attempt a feeble escape, but nothing that will warrant him being shot.

Purushottam being shot makes most sense because if he reveals the truth then Anami goes back home to Banaras. Additionally Anami still wants to dig deeper into the kidnapping which means Purushottam is not able to finish or does not say anything to begin with.

But apart from that let's wait and see.


Very nice Athene. But you have forgotten my favorite villain Pujan babu. He is not one to be a spectator. I am going to predict he is going to play hero and save them all thus making Satrupa indebted to him.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Mangothyme


Very nice Athene. But you have forgotten my favorite villain Pujan babu. He is not one to be a spectator. I am going to predict he is going to play hero and save them all thus making Satrupa indebted to him.



Ah yes Pujan babu. I don't think he'll be the one to shoot, but I do have a feeling he's there keeping an eye on everything and will bring CBI on time to the right location. That way yes he will play hero.

And making Satrupa indebted to him will be another problem for Satrupa in the future because that very indebtedness may lead Satrupa to forgiving and leaving Avdhoot and Pujan in the future.
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Posted: 7 years ago
It was a quick paced episode and Royal Steels became the destination everyone headed towards.
The panic in Satrupa when she leaves LM.the way she reassures a panic stricken Ladoo her refusal to divulge the whereabouts of Narottam , her annoyance that Anami had thrown caution to the wind were emotions very beautifully expressed by Narayani.
Narottam has already told his mom that if she and her brother had a hand in the kidnapping he will divulge her plan.
Baldev has comforted Sudha trying to locate her son. He has blamed Satrupa for creating the mess by bringing her daughter.
Sudhas sinister vow that Anamis brothers will die in her hands makes me think it is Narottam who will get hit by the bullet.
It will halt the blood bath temporarily.
LM may grieve his death and acknowledge him as Baldevs son thus making him the warus that died because of his own uncle taking him down. Only difference is here it's the maternal Uncle.
Satrupa has warned Sudha not to lose her bloodline, she has warned her she will know what it is to lose once own.
Based on all these I feel Shreya Narottam will be the collateral damage. The reason he is portrayed effiminate is to me he becomes the shield protecting Anami the Arjun.
The news that Narottam was missing was enough to drive Sudha crazy now his death will make her livid and she knows Satrupa is the one behind the disappearance and Dammit has offered to speak out where he is.
Heera Singh might be located by Baldev and he might know Satrupa has Narottam in custody.
Anami has warned Sudha that if she knows Sudha was involved in the kidnapping she will throw her out of LM .
Sudha reaching RS is proof of her plot and Purushottam s action scene with so many adiyaal is proof of his involvement and Satrupa trying to be reassuring to Ladoo.

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Posted: 7 years ago
Samsaram adhu Minsaram was an amazingly entertaining movie. Yes the comedy Kannamma, gammunu kada is from that movie as also the very powerful climax where Lakshmi not only taunts her in laws for abandoning her and her child but also Raghuvaran when he is analysing the expenditure.
It was to show the undercurrents that push and pull in the functioning of a middle class family.
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Posted: 7 years ago
My take for the future. Next week is going to be a bit bland considering it's Christmas and New year time. So the Jagaran and all. But post that, I feel Narrottam and Baldev will be influenced by Sudha. Sat's mistake is going to turn him negative and manipulative as his mother. As for Baldev, he still has a soft corner for her which he doesn't for Sat. Also, Anami may start her interactions with Dheeru, which will seal the deal of Baldev in favour of Sudha. Whether it will be open rebellion or otherwise, we have to wait and watch. And Pujan will be the instigator. He already knows Anami is more capable than his son and so will side with Sudha to pull her and Sat down. Probably Sudha and Pujan will come together at least externally to first control their main enemy which is Sat. They, of course, will play games with one another. That would be later. But the scapegoat is going to be Baldev. He, anyway doesn't have much feelings for Anami and is portrayed as weak and selfish character.
Anami probably will get to know that Sat was hiding Ladoo and will be furious with her. But when she realises that behind her mother's uttler callousness and selfish was the craving for love of the daughter she abandoned, she will soften (I've already mentioned this in another post). And, when Sat is all alone, she will support her mother and give her the love that Sat wants. Sat has to suffer the consequences of her wrong doings be it to the Pathaks or Ladoo or even her own daughter. But in yesterday's episode, they did show her as having care for Laddoo also. She did not want him to be harmed and so came to take him to Anami. As she is not shown as completely wrong, she will have her moments of justice unlike Sudha.
Baldev the weakest character will do all wrongs and finally when he realises, either he will die apologising or be put in jail to atone his sins. And, that would be the end of the show.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Thanks Usha for telling it was Narada, because in the oral rendition of MB I heard from my great aunt as a child it was Narada who tells Subhadra abt Chakravyuha, it was same in the Amar chitra katha also, but when I searched Wiki yesterday it showed Arjuna telling also 2013 MB showed Arjuna telling Subhadra. Though I dont take 2013 MB as bench mark as it had its share of deviations from the original story I have heard, but when I couldnt find reference of Narada in wiki I was confused. Anyways it doesnt matter who told the point is Subhadra slept half way and that became the reason for Abhi's half knowledge in Chakravyuha
@simran the justice has to be through law only, that's the sole reason Adhi is kept CBI officer the arm of law.

@mangothyme Karma is a bitch it will come back to you. Satrupa as well as the LMwasis has to pay the price of the so called decisions they took based on perceptions. I have enough examples in my own family where karma has come back when it was least expected. Whatever judgement you made on others based on perceptions will come back to you. And control never works. If you keep water tightly in your hand, it will find ways to escape. You can only give direction and allow individuals to choose. And the choice has to be based on trust, love and respect not out of fear.

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