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Posted: 15 years ago
and oh Miss know it all but know nothing at alllllllllll...ek baat bata..confusion hai i feel me and naps both r missing something damn special....u know jab he said that crap to her ashi went totallly blahd ek dum sad si ho gayi jaise kuch bujh sa gaya ho anderrrrrrrrrr jaise kuch bacha hi na ho look forward karne ke liye hope karne ke liye just seee her expression just after he blabbers the dream bit and before the bada hona crap bit she is alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll brokenish sadish aur fir after he says bada hona bit she still is sad unsure uncertain and fir ek dum se ek dum suddenlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy she jolts back and hope start gleaming gleaminggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg GLEMAING through her eyes her every fiberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and then she nods too to him lekin all u can see is hope gleaming she believing ki dreams do come tre miracles do happen fairies do exissssssssssssst....but i dnt get it....i mean i dunno am missing something....why the nod?....i know the child within her rebellledddddddddddddddddddd against this foce which was telling her not to belive in dreams i know she rebelled without even realizing wihout once thinking i know it but i dunno am missing something here i so am...telll me her every feelinggggggggggggggggggggggggggg form the moment she heard the crap to the moment she got back her hope her faith he heart ka voice..in moments ki poori journey.....telllllllllllllllllll
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: FollowYourHeart

no no no nooooooooo anuuuuuuuuuuu u cant nd u so cant escape this...u have to telll me whether u believe in what ranveer said in the end or no....u just have to telll me...u cannot an u so cannot escape this....and by god so many questions...whats got into ou here i toh was waiting for you to come and just go maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad over this scene pouring in whatever just whatever you felllllllllllllllt....i would answe all those qs anu but first you pen donw whatever you felt yaaaaaaar...i don't want to bias your feelins first i want it all out from you then i would add my own to the base of whatever you yourself are feeling...but only after heaing first hand account form you..chal shuru hoja with your dil ka haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal keep the qs aside keep all doubts aside and just live this moment here...fir i wld add on

and lol no fight yaar when have we all ever had same wala views here...hamesha all of us have different perspectives but i feel as if this is something very very fundamental...i mean here we ae being asked to accept some dreams cant come true...our own ashi has been asked to do that....thats just i dunno its totally against the faith with which ashi ay and we alllllllll as individuals live yaaar....it totally against it....thats why i feel this is fundamental...I for one totally am repulsed by it coz it defies the very meaning of life for me...it so does!

Well, i thought abt it all night and pushing to the side all the stuff that's going on right now, this is how i really feel abt the whole dreams qns. I think ranveer is partly right and partly wrong, and i'm not just saying that to be diplomatic. Yes, there are gonna be dreams that never get fulfilled. But see, ranveer was speaking from a different place. Natz got it spot on - both ashi n ranveer r missing each other's point. See ranveer, i feel anyway, never believed in anything. He never thought he could achieve all that he wanted to. Even when he reached a goal, like getting tia, he couldn't hold onto it, he let it go, and so of course the dream broke. See this is what he is not seeing, that we all have dreams, and yeah some won't get fulfilled, but it's not a simple case of dreaming and saying 'i wanna be this......or i want this to happen' - you have to make it happen, but more importantly once it does get achieved you can't just sit back and say, 'i've done that, now it's all over' coz it's never over. Once you have fufilled a dream you have to work to keep it alive, to hold onto it with both hands and never let it go. Yes, new dreams will come once one is fulfilled, and you will start working towards these new dreams too, but you never forget that old dream and never let go off it either. And that's what ranveer never did. he never worked to hold onto anything. ashi, on the other hand, did. See look at how she is still fighting for yuvi, still trying to make him see the error of his ways even when some part of her feels at times that she's fighting a losing battle. She knows that it's all about fighting, all about keeping that faith all along. Ranveer, i feel never had any faith. And i don't say this intending to bash him, i just feel because of certain things that happened in his life he never found the ability to keep faith. And there are many ppl like this in the world. So many who look at life and see the glass half empty, who can only doubt their every step. I know, because for the last few months i have been one of them.
But, coming back to the main point, i think it's wrong to say that you have to accept that all dreams won't come true and that by doing so you're grown up. I think that dreams only come true if you really believe in them and in yourself, and that is what ashi did. More than anything she believed in the ppl around her, and that is why she fought, that is why she never gave up hope. To believe, to aspire is the most important thing, because if you don't truly believe in yourself then yeah you'll end up feeling like ranveer. But i also agree with Natz, that the end result is also really important. I said that not all dreams will come true, but i think that in these cases it's because we didn't believe in ourselves enough. For example, i wanted a 1st right? I didn't get it. Why? Because i told myself i'm not clever enough. Now, maybe if i had believed in myself i still wouldn't have gotten that 1st, but i think that if we truly believe we can achieve the impossible. It's learning how to believe in yourself that can lead you to that final goal, and then learning how to keep that dream burning even when you think you have achieved it, because you always have to fight to keep every single dream alive. Ranveer never did, that's why he said those lines. But ashi knows that even if a dream goes wrong, that you get distanced from it, you can find a way back, you just have to keep fighting.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: -YaRa-Forever-

Nope Anu, Ashi didn't accept that she loves yuvi...she accepted that she loved yuvi...and i know she always accepted this...but I don't know there is difference then and now...but still she knows that nothing can come between the love she felt for yuvi!

As for present...she herself doesn't know yaar...her disappointment in yuvi is soo much that she is just unable to believe what all he is doing! She has lost her yuvi in yuvraj dev...and its yuvraj dev that she is hating!!

I mean in the elections result...as far as i remember...she didn't call him yuvi...all she kept saying was Yuvraj Dev...Mr.Dev!!

I don't know but all i know is that all this is beautiful!☺️ PERIOD!☺️

I knew she said she loved yuvi, but see from your previous post i thought she had said she loved him in the present too and i was thinking 'is my hindi so bad i missed that kya?' 😆
See, i didn't feel that she doesn't know. The look in her eyes was so like just after she found out abt the bet. I feel ke she is reliving some of those emotions in a way. I think she knows that she loves him still, and i think she's angry because she still loves him. She wants to deny it, isliye she kept saying she hates him. You know, protesting too much? And that whole 'i hate him so much i'm ready to leave the band' thing - i'm sorry, but to me that seemed so random, like it was just some excuse she had made up there and then to try and convince ranveer and also convince herself. You know ashi na, when she says s'thing she does it. She has left the band before and it never bothered her. So when she said 'what to do? the band needs me' it didn't ring true to me. Yes, she won't leave her friends in the lurch, i know, but to me if she really wanted to leave the band she wld do it. I felt she was saying it all because she WANTS to hate yuvi. And you're right, it's yuvraj dev she hates. And she hates seeing her yuvi turning into uvraj dev and that's why she is so angry and upset with him.....and with herself for still caring for him. I feel ke she's asking herself why do i love s'thing so corrupt and horrible as that? But like you said, she loves the yuvi inside, and she can't walk away from him, she loves that yuvi too much to let him become yuvraj dev, and she's angry with herself for that and wishing she could push it all away. That's how it seemed to me anyway.
And yeah, it is beautiful. I never thought so before, but then i never liked the election phase before, but now i'm understanding it better i'm seeing how beautiful it really is. 😳
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: luv_wacko

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh goddddddddddd..luks like no one will agree wid with me in dis forum EVER....

anu i really gt ur perspective....bt..wat he said ws ki NT ALL UR DREAMS WILL COME TRUE.....he din say dat all ur dreams will fail....
i dunno...i mean ranveer is d object of hostility yaha pe....bt sometimes he does say very meaningful things.....i mean apart frm d nauseous moments of him n tia..when hes in d wise owl mode ..den i find ki kabhi kabhi he makes sense...n d moment wen he said dese lines....we have to understand his perspective too....hes quite miserable at d moment...which is ofcrse his fault altogether....

No, i get where you're coming from debo, i really do. And i do agree that sometimes our dreams won't be fulfilled, but i really do believe that it's all abt the hope. I understand you though and i can see why you feel the way you do. Trust me, there are days when i am in complete agreement with what ranveer said. And yeah, he's speaking from a bad place in his life. Losing tia made him feel this way......but i do think he just never had it in him to believe in himself and what he wanted from life.
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Originally posted by: -YaRa-Forever-

Blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Made a siggie after ages!☺️😳 Bear with it coz it sucks...making it after i dont know how many months...and upar se lost textures and everything!☺️😳 Thanks dung for the PSP though!☺️🤗



Text means:

No, there is nothing that I cannot conquer if I have you underneath my skin...
You fill me with the light that grows towards the south!☺️😳😳

Nitz it's just beautiful!!!!!! Omg really love it. And the text..............it's giving me gooses!!! Embarrassed Someone's def into spanish these days na? 😉 Man it's such a beautiful langauge.......it just feels so poetic na. So wish we had been given classes in it at school!
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Originally posted by: -DulceMaria-

Ummmmmmm okay is it just me who saw the scene in different light?😕 esp that " main yuvi se pyaar karti thi" line..?? i felt her emphasis was on yuvi and not on thi. it wasnt "i LOVED yuvi" instead it was "i loved YUVI". she loved Yuvi, her fake he-man not this guy who's a puppet to yashwant dev. She doesnt even know this guy coz this guy isnt real.

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just read ur complete post 🤣 omgg u said the same thing 🤗 🤗 🤗

Natalie.

Oh ok, so i think i'm getting what you guys are saying - that she loved YUVI but not this yuvraj dev? Yeah, i agree with that. See 1st time i saw it i felt she was saying 'i hate yuvi' meaning she hated him, but now i see that it's yuvraj dev she meant. The whole band thing still feels like an excuse to me though, but i can see that all her sadness and anger is at losing yuvi to this yuvraj dev. God, i'm slow on the uptake this morning. 😆
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Originally posted by: luv_wacko

hmmmm....well iv always found ranveer to be one of d most calculated characters of d whole lot.....bt yes....its nt dat im saying ki lets all be totally pessimistic...n hopeless n stuff...bt wat im sayin is..ki life is nt picture perfect.....nt at all.....n i dunno i really agree wid him.....

n yes...hes more tolerable wen hes in his wise owl mode.....lol

Believe me debo, i am full on in agreement when you say life is not picture perfect. No one knows that better than me right now. N no, of course that's not what you meant - you agree na that we all will still have dreams and hopes to aspire to, but that we can't expect them to all be realised. I get that........and i guess out of us all you must be the most sensible. What i think Di was getting at was that ashi is not about being sensible, that she embraced taking risks and having faith no matter the ups and downs. That's how i see ashi, at least. And while i do agree that we can't expect to succeed every time, i think we have to take a risk now and again, we have to believe in ourselves and keep striving else, like natz was saying, why bother? Life is a journey and we each make of it what we will. The beauty of it is that no two ppl are the same, or go thru the same experience. And this is what remix captured beautifully. I mean, here are ashi and ranveer - coming from two totally different perspectives and seeing their views mix and mash - it's exactly like life, and that's why i think it's such a special show.
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Posted: 15 years ago
debo....once and for all Ranveer isn't the object of hostility here...what he preached is and had it come from anyone else too be it yuvi or any damned one i wld have been repulsed by it just the same....trust me when i like something abt him no one not even me myself or my dislike for him and his princess wld be able to stop me from upholding him...TRUST ME....

and ofcorse being a child all life isnt a practical approach to life but who the hell is aspiring to live a practical and rational life debo?...certainly not me...i wish each moment of my life brings up a new insanity a new irrationality a new challenge a new adventure...by keeping that child alive i didnt mean living in a fairytale world or blah what i meant was keep tthat child's excitement enthusiasm towards life alive its desire to try out new things every damn single day its quest to explore to experiment to take risks to not be afraid of trying to not be afraid of falling failing to not care about what people think and just do what your heart wants to do if it wants to scream scream itna tez ki poori building hil jaye if it wants to laugh laugh itna itnaaaaaaaaaaaaa zada ki petmain dard ho jaye ansu nikal aaye if it wants to cry toh cry aise ki puragher sir pe utha lo shit yaar when we r kids we just do what our hear wants us ot do without fear of anyhting any rule any protoco; an stereotype or for that matter any damned one we havet o keep this child aliveeeeeee so that we cna follow our heart stubbornly NO MATTER WHAT and trust me honey in this path of following your heart am not locking myself to any cucoon or whatever instead am plunign myself head on into the flowingggggg river without caring how deep or cold the water is thats what a child does thats what i myself want o do all my lifeeeeee You think this path ofollowing our hear is all rosey huh?...Y need a big reality chek debo if u think that its the moooost tumultous path every other person around u wld try to pull u down wld try to tell u its IMPOSSIBLE its just u and ou faith that wld tell u no I AM POSSIBLE...and honestly for me the rosey picture wld set in when u accept that some of your dreams cant come true...becoz honey the moment you accept that u in the most prudest sens r doing nothing but GIVING UP...mushkilon se dar ke u r just givinggggg up and accepting a more stable a more certain a more comfortable life jahana zada haath pair marne ki zaroorat nahi padegi...kyun padegi yaaar when u have accepted only ki yeh dream sach nahi hoga toh bus fir the story ends then and there only na u wld stop trying u wld stop fighting...listen its only the expectaiton of dreams being fulfilled which makes u even accept worst se worst blows and suffering hanste hueeeeeee coz u know that at the end of this dark hour there is sunshine lighttttt

And as for me seeing things from Ranveer's perception or even attempting to understand him...ha thats just not possible..and trust me this isn't becoz of my dislike of him or of them as a char...if i even try to understand this na debo i would be bloody cheating my own self my every moemnt of life...and i just cant do tht..and this isnt even about Ashi or Ay or anything...this is about ME MYSELF....this belief ithat all and i mean it ALL no matter how big or small they r alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll my dreams will and they so will will come true no matter whaaaaaaaaaat is the FAITH with which i live my life a faith with which i look forward welcome and embrace every freaking new moment of life...this is the freaking faith with which i live yaar so i just cant and i so wont accept understand or whatever he tried to preach...for me all my dreams will come trueeeeeeeee and nothing just nothing would make me stop fighting for them to come true..i m not sayingi wont fail or fall bu know i would infinite times i woulllllllllllllllllllllllld but i just hope somehow anyhow after every fall i feel a tad bit more closer towards this ONE MOMENT where my dreams will come true...an as for trying to understand all characters of Remix...sorry again debs..but i just cant do that either remix has always been just about one thing one person ASHI...and she isn't a character a ficition...she ws bhaggu's way to bring me life ka true menaing...she is a blessing a faith a belief with which i live my life...and via her and all the beautiful relations she shares i have discovered love friendship dreams hopes....and as for those two crappy people they only represent all those materialistic fake pessimistic forces in life which would judge you and hamesha try to pull you down in whatever you do always bring this notion to you that love dreams dont exist in reality its not worth the fight who would be cozy with you when its warm and sunny and would at the first sign of a rain shower they wld be the ones to run at record breaking speed...and trust me such forces wld always be there always....but you have to defy them and the only way to do that is to believe in yourself in your miracles in your dreams and in their possiblities of coming true..PERIOD
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: luv_wacko

@bold: aww..whats up wid u den....why sooo glum??
yes i get smritsu's take too..bt she sees it all in 1 pattern n perspective....wid dat of ashi....dat is wat i want her to see..dat yes remix has 4 protaganists...each holding der own court.....n each of dem believing in diff aspects n tenets....😳

Too much to write here lol! I'm just having lots of tests at the moment (by that i mean life ka tests), that's all, but even so i keep telling myself that i can come through it all. Life is one long journey and we all have ups and downs, and dif ppl deal with them in dif ways. Just see how this one scene has sparked such dif opinions. It's really amazing that all of us have such strong opinions on it and the message (in fact messages) in this scene. I'm so damn proud of us all for being so full of belief in our own views and for being able to stand up and say: this is what i believe in. Because that's what ashi taught us right? To stand up for what we believe in. But man, am so pleased with this debate because i dunno why, but it's sparked s'thing in me - this realisation that you need to keep believing and hoping and that only through maintaining that belief through all the bad times will you get thru them and see the good times. Only you can make your dreams come true and you know, all this has come to me while reading all your posts and writing down my own thoughts, and it's made me wanna fight for my own dreams, whereas y'day i felt ke i'll never get to where i wanna be. So, thanks all of you for igniting that spark inside me once again, i guess i needed it. 🤗
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