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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

I'm in a hurry so I just skimmed through your post, but what I have to say is that yes Paro always demands proof before "not trusting" someone, but if your husband does not like a man and earnestly feels that something is not right with him you should respect his feelings even if you don't agree with them by maintaining a distance from the man - no need to be so open and friendly with him. Besides, Paro is a village girl, so is Maithili, them acting so free and bold with Shantanu is out of character. These days I'm seeing less of Paro sometimes and more of Khushi.

Also, some character growth in Paro would be nice to see. Nobody in this world can go through all that Paro went through and remain all-trusting and naive.

Oh and, getting upset with your husband and sulking for some random guy? Oh please. Not buying it. Ok yeah so people have analyzed and explained why Paro was upset with Rudra but the truth is many of us don't have time to think so much about every action now, we take what we see in 20 minutes, TRP viewers do the same, and if in 20 minutes it looks like Paro is upset with Rudra for Shantanu then people will laugh and change the channel - because TRP aunties don't want to see a smart and alert and all-knowing ML, they want to see a sharp and understandable FL.



Yes I agree with you completely. She should atleast try maintain some distance with shantanu out of respect for her husband rudra. How can she trusts people so easily??? I mean apart from tejawat and Laila did she forget how varun said sweet things to her before they got married and how that turned out for her?? She liked Varun as well didn't she??trusted him. It's not natural for a girl to trust people so easily when there are attacks on her life.


And I definitely think her character has turned into khushi's character these days. The Paro we knew was Sharmili and quiet but her donning of rudra's clothes and acting like him infront of everyone is not Paros character but of khushi's.

No matter what even if she thinks shantanu is trustworthy she should respect her husband's wish and maintain some limit with shantanu.
Edited by dushturain - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52
much neede post sunara agree with u
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: princessunara



i get u but here is the thing.
See - what Rudra thinks he wants is and what is good for him are not always the same thing. Like he conceded once, eating burnt aaloo ki zabzi was a habit, not a liking. I put the same thing for kurta thing actually - its reflection of that colorless soulless existence in his where he didn't let anything nice or beautiful enter his life - now not talking about taste actually. cz in Rajasthani culture the black 3 piece suit is not normal. nor is patternless clothes n stuff.. i am not simplifying the matter - but wanted to separately address this issue as i think its different from the other more serious things u asked,


Now trusting - its more i think Paro's inherent nature is to trust, so if Rudra asked her to trust more - she would happily agree to it. But what he asks her to do is what goes against her very basic nature. so she reacts by not doing what he has asked her to do.

Paro is programmed to see goodness in people - do u remember when she thought he was a cold blooded murderer threatening to marry her unless she testified and lied about the good people who loved and brought up she still appealed to his good nature. she said 'u too must have dreams about a marriage, how she will be.. etc.. so don't you want to marry that woman u love' and that is Paro!
Its never ever about mistrusting Rudra or disregarding his advice, just that he asks her to go against her very basic nature and it conflicts with what her sense of justice is.

And if u think - did she see, hear, notice the behavior of the nice doctor who treated her? nah.. she was unconscious when all of that took place - whatever they said to her could be a lie for all she knows. that was never good enough to trust the men who murdered her entire family according to her. Same with Tejawat.

In Paro's characterization its just her sense of right and wrong is way way too simple and straightforward. Get in to her bad book she never allows herself to be manipulated. But till the person is not in the bad book she allows them to be good and considers them good.

Its not who we are.. but i think there has been no compromise on that count with her till now..

PS: I have been known to coerce my daddy with mom to buy a more colorful shirt and wear it.. My gifts to both my bro and dad from my 1st salary 2 months back had me written on it more than them lol.. its just that i felt they needed a bit more color in their clothes.. so i am guessing its just a female thing cz as i said both mom n i do it to the men in our lives! 😆

you are right the kurta thing is to be addressed separately to the trust issue.
I like your explanation of Paro and what drives her. from what we have seen so far in RR. your explanation fits Paro well. But I still feel there is a gap in her trusting Rudra. Why is it that the same logic of trusting everyone who is good is not extended to Rudra yet? let me try to explain, coz its a bit complicated...
So here is the man Paro loves the most in the whole world. More than herself. More than anything. There is a threat on her life. Now, a new person is introduced, who comes into the haveli in suspicious circumstances... in the dead of night, right after the sound of cocking a pistol! He already has been to the haveli to drop off Sunehri, yet he didn't choose to enter and introduce himself then. Rudra points this fact out. This person she loves the most is suspicious of the new guy. Rudra is being guarded and watching...
The new guy seems to be nice. Mingles well with the whole family. is courteous and helpful.
Now paro with her trusting nature will naturally lean towards trusting the new guy since he has not done anything wrong yet. But Rudra has already taken a stand. And that is to be suspicious of the new guy. What should paro do in this circumstance? the love of her life is being suspicious of the new guy. Should she not take that into cognizance? paro need not be suspicious of the new guy and treat him badly. But she can consider and give space to Rudra's opinion and stand. This is what Paro is not doing. And that is the problem.
She completely discounts his opinion. Brushes it aside and brings herself up as an example. The irony of it is that more times than not, he was right in his assessment!
You see Sunara, how it appears? She loves him more than life itself, but she does not consider or give space to his thought or opinion. Her need to trust and see everyone as good takes precedence over his need to protect and keep her safe. It makes me question her love. And doubt what she says.
And here is the thing. I think if Paro was real, she would never do this. She would trust her Major. keep a polite and safe distance from Shantanu. That would be true to paro's characterization. But I guess in telly land having Paro behave this way would be a very easy (not to mention lazy) way to move the story forward. And that I am having a problem with...
More on the kurta thing later...
I need to get off IF and get back to my performance reviews... 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Superb post sunara... Agreed 100%... U know onething before starting of dis track itself some are damn sure that paro will trust shantanu n also they r the ones who say they dont connect to paro[hmm.. Is that even possible? Sochne ka padi..]..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bobby9

Only Paro is the character in RR who is consistently honest with herself. She is a strong believer and mind it there is a vast difference between belief and trust. Trust always needs evidence but believe is based on intuition. And Paro is a remarkable in switching from believe from distrust in split second, the moment she shows even a sliver of reason against somebody at that very instant she starts distrusting that person. And she is extremely adept at judging a person at first glance, from his/her actions, way of talking, attitude,etc. And it's extremely evident from the way she figured out Mohini and Sumer.
Rudra pointed to her that how foolish she is cause she trusted Tejawat and Laila but for even trusting them she had a medium. She believed Tejawat because of Mala, her mother figure. And she believed Laila, because of Rudra. If she was so bad then how come Rudra was with her for 8 long years and she was Rudra's friend Paro tried to maintain a cordial relationship.

By the way excellent post and analysis.



thank you very much and i agree with every word u said! that is the thing, Paro is unflinchingly unapologetically honest and straightforward to the point where the world is black and white where she is concerned. She doesn't see the greys inb/w. And she is very honest and just even if being so would hurt her she sticks to her beliefs as u said!

its good to see this reply that in such a perfect manner puts her nature across!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

I'm in a hurry so I just skimmed through your post, but what I have to say is that yes Paro always demands proof before "not trusting" someone, but if your husband does not like a man and earnestly feels that something is not right with him you should respect his feelings even if you don't agree with them by maintaining a distance from the man - no need to be so open and friendly with him. Besides, Paro is a village girl, so is Maithili, them acting so free and bold with Shantanu is out of character. These days I'm seeing less of Paro sometimes and more of Khushi.

this i agree somewhat. yes the writers r doing something very wrong there with the way Paro and Maitili is mingling with the strange new male in their home. Its not really Khushi, there is none of that exuberance. But there is indeed something very un-Paroish in the writing.

Also, some character growth in Paro would be nice to see. Nobody in this world can go through all that Paro went through and remain all-trusting and naive.
Maybe.. just maybe.., one cannot stay sane after what she went through unless she sticks to what she is doing? It could be a coping/defense mechanism right?

Oh and, getting upset with your husband and sulking for some random guy? Oh please. Not buying it. Ok yeah so people have analyzed and explained why Paro was upset with Rudra but the truth is many of us don't have time to think so much about every action now, we take what we see in 20 minutes, TRP viewers do the same, and if in 20 minutes it looks like Paro is upset with Rudra for Shantanu then people will laugh and change the channel - because TRP aunties don't want to see a smart and alert and all-knowing ML, they want to see a sharp and understandable FL.



i agree to u Zee, they should put it across more carefully. That she doesn't have an issue of her husband suspecting Shantanu specifically. just that he doesn't seem to think any human is trustworthy and has trouble forming normal relationships and she is trying to help him through it should have been what they made obvious..

And this i think with the initial revelation of the villain to the audience they have messed up totally. Otherwise we would not be looking at Shantanu with knowing eyes and deciding she is wrong had he been projected to us as a good officer.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RRViewer

Hey Thanks for the welcome to this forum and ur reply Sunara...😊

Was a silent member, but y'day after seeing forum status something triggered me to register and put fwd my views...
Its feels good to hear from u people, ya will try to be active and increase forum activity...
By the way, the tag line u mentioned was really nice to came to know..


thanks for deciding to join because the forum can definitely do with another sensible member on it! So looking forward to interacting with u more often! :)

n glad u liked it. i always associated it with Rudra's situation somehow..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessunara



Give Paro a reason ONE SINGLE reason and she will never turn around! Paro doesn't simply emotionally trust everyone. She uses reason, logic, compassion and sensibility.

I am not Paro so I am certain their will be some flaw to my counter, but I will still give it a try.
Paro was alone in the kitchen talking to herself and Shantanu creeps up behind her to talk about his trick of emptying the house just for her and his sir. The gut reaction I had seeing that scene was wanting to see Paro take a spatula and smack Shantanu across the nose before Paro would apologize and reluctantly accept the "gift".
That breach of personal space, in my opinion, is one reason Paro would distrust an honorable officer.
EDIT: You do bring a lot of good points though, especially about the 4 BSD officers around her already.
Edited by puglet - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I missed this post earlier Sunara. It is superb how you have gone through all the events in Paro's life to show why she would trust the BSD captain Shantanu.

By showing the audience Shantanu's evil intents the CVs have again made it easy to understand Rudra, but we forget that the characters in the story have no clue. They see Shantanu as a brave and charming BSD captain posted in the haveli to protect them.

Today Paro made it clear that it is not Shantanu she cares about but her husband. She wants Rudra to be calm so he can think straight, by losing his cool he is playing right into the hands of the villain and he got into trouble with his boss.

However, I would like Paro to start being suspicious of Shantanu as the track progresses and team up with Rudra to protect her family.

Completely agree with the following.

But is it logical for her to distrust him on a whim of Rudra - WHO HAS TRUST ISSUES? - NO its not logical for her to distrust Shantanu at all!

I am waiting for something to happen to trigger Paro to think otherwise. But TILL THEN she has to trust him.
Because - what more trust does she need than Rudra, kakusa, Aman and Singh sir leaving her alone in the house every morning with this man? Rudra might be reluctant, but isn't he also leaving his wife home with this man?
Edited by showviewer - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deep0909

you are right the kurta thing is to be addressed separately to the trust issue.

I like your explanation of Paro and what drives her. from what we have seen so far in RR. your explanation fits Paro well. But I still feel there is a gap in her trusting Rudra. Why is it that the same logic of trusting everyone who is good is not extended to Rudra yet? let me try to explain, coz its a bit complicated...
So here is the man Paro loves the most in the whole world. More than herself. More than anything. There is a threat on her life. Now, a new person is introduced, who comes into the haveli in suspicious circumstances... in the dead of night, right after the sound of cocking a pistol! He already has been to the haveli to drop off Sunehri, yet he didn't choose to enter and introduce himself then. Rudra points this fact out. This person she loves the most is suspicious of the new guy. Rudra is being guarded and watching...
The new guy seems to be nice. Mingles well with the whole family. is courteous and helpful.
Now paro with her trusting nature will naturally lean towards trusting the new guy since he has not done anything wrong yet. But Rudra has already taken a stand. And that is to be suspicious of the new guy. What should paro do in this circumstance? the love of her life is being suspicious of the new guy. Should she not take that into cognizance? paro need not be suspicious of the new guy and treat him badly. But she can consider and give space to Rudra's opinion and stand. This is what Paro is not doing. And that is the problem.
She completely discounts his opinion. Brushes it aside and brings herself up as an example. The irony of it is that more times than not, he was right in his assessment!
You see Sunara, how it appears? She loves him more than life itself, but she does not consider or give space to his thought or opinion. Her need to trust and see everyone as good takes precedence over his need to protect and keep her safe. It makes me question her love. And doubt what she says.
And here is the thing. I think if Paro was real, she would never do this. She would trust her Major. keep a polite and safe distance from Shantanu. That would be true to paro's characterization. But I guess in telly land having Paro behave this way would be a very easy (not to mention lazy) way to move the story forward. And that I am having a problem with...
More on the kurta thing later...
I need to get off IF and get back to my performance reviews... 😊

sorry am late to reply.. anyway..
well i agree up to a certain extent.. But i thought her behavior in another way. Imagine this guy was innocent, really innocent and Rudra did this! He would lose his job! And that is EXACTLY what happened!
This is never about Shantanu but about his behavior..

Anyway one thing i totally agree is Paro should not be comfy with Shantanu simply on the basis of her being a not so outgoing girl.. she is not as reserved as her Gunjan character was.. but not half as outgoing as Khushi...

so there has been a few slips in writing, or in fact they are deliberate lazy writing to move the story forward!

PS: Are u in HR too? I am right now typing some evaluation letters too! 😆


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