Bigg Boss 19: Daily Discussion Thread - 11th Sept 2025
Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 27
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Thanks for your reply ... good to hear someone ready to discuss.Again, this is not to justify Paro or Mala ... or to glorify them ... this is just to present their POV. And the writers have NOT SHOWN Mala's or Paro's POV, which is where the whole problem lies. Remember, this is a story, and we are seeing only what the story tellers show us.How do we know how badly hurt Rudra was about his mother's desertion? Because we have been SHOWN it ... again and again and again. Starting with his breakdown with the soldier's mother ... and multiple times after that.We have not been SHOWN Mala's POV ... and that is exactly where the lacuna lies. And why we cannot empathise with her.Why do we feel that she was justified in leaving, even slightly? Because we have been SHOWN that Dilsher abused her.Now if the cvs show us a few flashbacks of Mala pining for Rudra, seeing Rudra in every child, making multiple attempts to hunt for Rudra and Dilsher, deciding time and again that the moment she gets news of Rudra, she will tell Tejawat and ask his help to get Rudra back, worrying whether Tejawat will accept Rudra, whether Rudra will accept Tejawat, wondering how well Disher is looking after him, and whether she would be selfish in separating him from his dad ... if we saw any or all of these scenes, that would change the entire scenario.Did Mala know that her son was going through hell? Or did she feel that for thirteen years, while she faced abuse, Dilsher never lifted a hand on his son ... so at least Rudra was safe. And she left Rudra when he was thirteen, not three ... he was old enough to fight abuse ... or would be very soon.The cvs have shown two very radical tracks for Indian TV ... a woman marrying her husband's killer ... and a woman running away from a bad marriage, instead of staying and bearing up with the abuse. But they have shortchanged their own show by not showing the emotions and compulsions of the women involved ... hence the disconnect.Why does Paro glorify Mala to Rudra? Because she has seen that despite his mother's abandonment, when Rudra finally spoke about his mother, he only said good things, he only remembered the good times. He never said she scolded him, or that she neglected him. On the contrary, she was so devoted to her son, and he to her, that's why the betrayal hurt so much.
Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo
Diya...interesting take...helps me understand Paro's POV better...I definitely get her better now...but I still don't agree with her tactics.
I will come back later and write more if I find time because I do want to discuss this, I want to be convinced, but for now I would just like to clarify two things:1) Rudra did not say that his pain is bigger than Paro's. He said it's different. Alag baat he. And he's right...his pain and Paro's pain is different, they're different types of pain, it cannot be compared. When he says their pains are different he is not saying that his pain is bigger and hers less. He is only saying that their pain is not the same, his pain stems from the feeling that he is not loved because his mother chose herself and another man over him and Paro's pain is of heartbreak and death but her parents didn't leave her out of choice and so she does not feel unloved, these two pains really cannot be compared, and therefore Paro cannot relate to Rudra's pain, just like Rudra cannot relate to Paro's pain. They just aren't on the same page. That does not mean that he thinks his pain is greater than Paro's, far from it actually.2) Mala was not thinking of Rudra when she decided to leave. She did not think "Oh I'll wait until he's older till I leave him!" She said herself that one day she just couldn't take it anymore, she couldn't handle her broken relationship with her husband, and so she decided to leave. It was about her and her husband, not Rudra, and this is what Rudra tells his parents. I would also like to say that age 13 is not necessarily old enough to fight abuse. It's a vulnerable age, in the transition stage, many kids especially this age or around this age succumb to things like bullying, etc because they are not old enough and strong enough to fight it. I can tell you myself that I didn't have a fighting spirit until I was much older, at age 13 I would let anybody walk all over me if they wanted to.Note: I would feel cheated if I found out the love of my love was emotionally manipulating me. It doesn't really matter to me if their intentions were pure, if they were only looking out for me, in such relationships I appreciate and expect emotional solidarity, not emotional manipulation.In the real world we often see relationships break because of actions similar to this. One partner asks, "How could you lie to me??" The other partner says, "I didn't want to hurt you!" The response, "That's not up to you to decide! I appreciate honesty, I have a right to know, and as my partner you always have to be honest with me! No games!"I know you're not saying that Paro's POV is right or wrong, you are simply presenting her POV, and I appreciate it, but I would also like to say that Paro is doing this for Mala as well...to give her back the rights and honour that she apparently deserves.Thanks for reading 😊P.S. Since this is a post about Paro I talked about Paro and what I don't like, but there are plenty of things that bother me about Rudra as well. I saw your post on Sush's thread, if you saw my post on her thread you will see that I have criticized Rudra and his bheja there. So this is a disclaimer to everyone reading...I am not a "Rudra fangirl" speaking.
Originally posted by: ddFan2012
Diya🤗,⭐️⭐️
I have been extremely busy these days, yet happened to pass by this afternoon. Liked it and left again.Your post brought tears to my eyes.👏⭐️Can I tweet it to the makers?Someone's got to read this...and one of the reasons the show has a disconnect with the female audiences...