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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: DexterRocks


yes atleast there is time b4 she leaves. she is yet to expose mohini with her laddoo fiasco.😆

the scene was extremely touching, i genuinely felt for PaRud in the scene. and yes Ashish's voice.. sigh..😳

famous ? me ? why and how ?😲😕


Go around the forum and you will know!😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
#42
@DR
i have no issues with a male prospective , yes i do feel it is more from rudra's POV because we hardly see anything about paro , her past etc

the hate marriage i would say , and paro i thought accepted it cos she thinks she 'understands him'
but rudra did force the marriage and his inability to accept it (as of now) , there i thought they justified his actions cos of his ruthless nature and bitterness that was due to his past

that i dont quite agree , but again that is the premise of the story , he was never meant to be white

and he is not guilty about that , because the same rudra who is so deeply concerned for paro's leg being hurt is fully aware that he doesnt want this relationship after forcing her into it

he has his 'reasons' rights , those reasoning makes me feel it is rudra's story more than paro's

how he moves on thats the story
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: squivi

Frankly, neither of them understand each other. She doesn't get his deep dard and darkness because of abandonment, while he doesn't understand her quick and unconditional love for him. It's not a one-way street here.

I'm sorry, it bothers me that you say that Paro being an orphan is somehow less debilitating or has less depth than him being abandoned because neither situation is comparable! Paro lost her parents - who on earth ever gets over that? NOBODY. Rudra was abandoned by his mother - who on earth gets over that? NOBODY. If anyone has the right to "lecture", as you put it, it's Paro. She has experienced pain, deceit and betrayal - her parents' death, married off to a terrorist and betrayed by her father figure. The girl lost everything, and yet has been able to not only rise up but also fight for what she wants, Rudra. Yes, she is naive. Absolutely. However, her "lecture" was absolutely warranted. Tell me, if the person you loved was like Rudra, would you let him or her wallow in their deep-rooted issue? Of course not. You'd want to help them by relating your experience to theirs, telling them that it's not right to hold onto the past.


Rudra doesn't know Paro. Paro doesn't know him. That is the whole problem with their relationship. They communicate, but don't get each other. This is the journey of Rang Rasiya.


gosh, when did i say she should not lecture him ? but she should not claim that she understands him . plus her timing is wrong, she is asking him to forget the betrayal and move on now when she herself is preparing to leave him after two days. yes her sacrifice is a different debate though.

and yes none of their losses can be forgotten, but she atleast has got a good and lovable upbringing which allowed her to move on, which he did not get, thus its not easy in his case. Had Rudra got mohini's love as his mother's figure and dilsher's affection and values, he would also have the motivation and yearn to move on . Thus its easy for Paro to say it unless she realises how deep down his wounds run.
Moreover, it became more easy for her to accept everything once she realised that BSD are not at fault and they didnt kill her parents, she stopped getting nightmares, but Rudra still gets nightmares, and still he is alive and sane with the fact that his mother is the wife of that man whom he hates the most and who is a traitor. Thus he claims that she does not know everything about him, and i would like to give credits to him for the sanity he still holds after seeing his mother's current position, after being humilited and accused for abusing women, after seeing his father almost at death bed and getting up. He is still very strong , if we consider these facts, no way he is running away or not trying to move on, its just his demons are bigger and more scary.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: AyeReKhushi

Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way 😊

For starters, I don't agree with Rudra "made her into a strong and independent lady"...uh what? Paro became a strong, independent lady when Tejawat revealed his true face to her and she beat him up and escaped ON HER OWN. She did what even the BSD officers couldn't do.
And one thing I don't understand. When Paro used to ignore his harsh words and refuse to let him go, you all call her clingy and naive. When she listens to what he wants and lets him go, you all still call her naive. She can't win. I think she tried her best with him. She always looked out for him, cared for him and loved him, despite his many threats telling her to get out, she stuck with him. Whatever she does in her life is for him, not for herself.
I for one am glad with the way things are going now. Rudra has been telling her to leave him alone for god knows how long...he calls her shameless, says he wishes he never met her, etc. Now he will get his wish and hopefully understand her worth.


@ aye khushi
👏 Brilliantly said , agree with u completely don't wana add any word
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: ttt1

@DR

i have no issues with a male prospective , yes i do feel it is more from rudra's POV because we hardly see anything about paro , her past etc

the hate marriage i would say , and paro i thought accepted it cos she thinks she 'understands him'
but rudra did force the marriage and his inability to accept it (as of now) , there i thought they justified his actions cos of his ruthless nature and bitterness that was due to his past

that i dont quite agree , but again that is the premise of the story , he was never meant to be white

and he is not guilty about that , because the same rudra who is so deeply concerned for paro's leg being hurt is fully aware that he doesnt want this relationship after forcing her into it

he has his 'reasons' rights , those reasoning makes me feel it is rudra's story more than paro's

how he moves on thats the story


very glad that you have put your perspective and another picture for the plot. now i am understanding the other side of the story too.
yes the hate marriage was justified, and more because they made his actions contradictory to the vows he took. If he would actually fulfill on his 8 vows, then that would mean painting him black and thus no scope to sympathesize with him. Moreover, Paro's easy acceptance of the marraige also once again justifies Rudra's drunk act which otherwise was cruel and unjustified.

they also try to make it Paro's story by giving an enhancement to her divine beliefs and proving it with their story. For example, the sacrifice she is doing, it will be justified, but otherwise in real world its lame. Its another matter that with Paro the CVs lacked with something and made her disconnected for the audience, and with Rudra the consisitency is a bit more. Otherwise both the chars are flawed, and their acts are given justification, even Paro's one legged stand which was self tortorous was justified , which i still find very ridiculous, and similarly the way Rudra believes he didnt do anything wrong with the marriage, she also believes her imposing herself on him was right as they are divinely connected. Both the characters love to justify their acts.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: DexterRocks


gosh, when did i say she should not lecture him ? but she should not claim that she understands him . plus her timing is wrong, she is asking him to forget the betrayal and move on now when she herself is preparing to leave him after two days. yes her sacrifice is a different debate though.

and yes none of their losses can be forgotten, but she atleast has got a good and lovable upbringing which allowed her to move on, which he did not get, thus its not easy in his case. Had Rudra got mohini's love as his mother's figure and dilsher's affection and values, he would also have the motivation and yearn to move on . Thus its easy for Paro to say it unless she realises how deep down his wounds run.
Moreover, it became more easy for her to accept everything once she realised that BSD are not at fault and they didnt kill her parents, she stopped getting nightmares, but Rudra still gets nightmares, and still he is alive and sane with the fact that his mother is the wife of that man whom he hates the most and who is a traitor. Thus he claims that she does not know everything about him, and i would like to give credits to him for the sanity he still holds after seeing his mother's current position, after being humilited and accused for abusing women, after seeing his father almost at death bed and getting up. He is still very strong , if we consider these facts, no way he is running away or not trying to move on, its just his demons are bigger and more scary.


You've said she lectured him in some posts on this thread, if I remember correctly. Her timing wasn't wrong because it's high time someone actually told him this. How long can or should anyone take another person's anger and hatred?

Again I'm sorry, but losing your parents no matter of how lovable your upbringing is is not valid. That is damaging to anyone, regardless of how loving your childhood. My mother lost her father at a very young age and even though her mother's love was all over her childhood, my mother still feels the loss of her father. That isn't closure, that is constant pain. There is no closure. It's just my mother knows she has to get up in the morning everyday and live her life. Paro will always carry that pain, but knows that there is no point in doing so. It will just cripple you.

I agree, if Rudra had any love as a child, he wouldn't be this damaged. As much as I love Rudra, let's be real - his abandonment is not an excuse for being a jerk. Simple. You can't force marry a girl because you want to punish her. You can't blackmail her by scaring her into a confession. You can't be harsh with her because you hate khoobsurat aurat. Yes, that is Rudra's character - damaged by his mother's abandonment and father's bitterness. And yes, he's not running away from them but he's not making any step to try to heal himself. That is Paro's point, and rightly so.

I give him credit for openly saying that she doesn't understand him. I will end this by saying that I love Rudra and Paro equally, but they both have ways to go to understand each other. Rudra doesn't know her, Paro claims to know him but also doesn't. They both have much to learn.
Edited by squivi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: .Kiran.


Go around the forum and you will know!😆


ohh i get you. Lol, leave it. I told you, the forum goes beserk once Rudra is sympathesized or Paro is criticized. But who cares, as long as you yourself are not involving into the ruckus.
the last time Rudra got sympathy was when he lost his job, and you missed the condition of the forum, it was on a hike. 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: squivi


You've said she lectured him in some posts on this thread, if I remember correctly. Her timing wasn't wrong because it's high time someone actually told him this. How long can or should anyone take another person's anger and hatred?

Again I'm sorry, but losing your parents no matter of how lovable your upbringing is is not valid. That is damaging to anyone, regardless of how loving your childhood. My mother lost her father at a very young age and even though her mother's love was all over her childhood, my mother still feels the loss of her father. That isn't closure, that is constant pain. There is no closure. It's just my mother knows she has to get up in the morning everyday and live her life. Paro will always carry that pain, but knows that there is no point in doing so. It will just cripple you.

I agree, if Rudra had any love as a child, he wouldn't be this damaged. As much as I love Rudra, let's be real - his abandonment is not an excuse for being a jerk. Simple. You can't force marry a girl because you want to punish her. You can't blackmail her by scaring her into a confession. You can't be harsh with her because you hate khoobsurat aurat. Yes, that is Rudra's character - damaged by his mother's abandonment and father's bitterness. And yes, he's not running away from them but he's not making any step to try to heal himself. That is Paro's point, and rightly so.

I give him credit for openly saying that she doesn't understand him. I will end this by saying that I love Rudra and Paro equally, but they both have ways to go to understand each other. Rudra doesn't know her, Paro claims to know him but also doesn't. They both have much to learn.


i agree with you, yes he is a jerk. he should have thrown her to birpur once his motive of getting her statement was fulfilled. if she was crazily in love with him, he should not have given her the space first of all, as he has phobea to khoobsurat aurat. but thats the story i guess. and about the parents loss and the fighting with the demons, you still didnt get my point but i do agree that in case of paro it is equally painful to lose the parents at that young age.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: DexterRocks


very glad that you have put your perspective and another picture for the plot. now i am understanding the other side of the story too.
any time buddy
i had fun discussing the story with you
yes the hate marriage was justified, and more because they made his actions contradictory to the vows he took. If he would actually fulfill on his 8 vows, then that would mean painting him black and thus no scope to sympathesize with him. Moreover, Paro's easy acceptance of the marraige also once again justifies Rudra's drunk act which otherwise was cruel and unjustified.

yes i thought the writers were justifying the hate marriage by making his contradictory actions , i took it as they were trying to say he is inherently nice but after he overcomes his bitterness which is pushing him to do all this , here i have an issue sometimes how much is too much

they also try to make it Paro's story by giving an enhancement to her divine beliefs and proving it with their story. For example, the sacrifice she is doing, it will be justified, but otherwise in real world its lame. Its another matter that with Paro the CVs lacked with something and made her disconnected for the audience, and with Rudra the consisitency is a bit more. Otherwise both the chars are flawed, and their acts are given justification, even Paro's one legged stand which was self tortorous was justified , which i still find very ridiculous, and similarly the way Rudra believes he didnt do anything wrong with the marriage, she also believes her imposing herself on him was right as they are divinely connected. Both the characters love to justify their acts.😆
divine angle i thought was a escapism , so that they dot have to justify paro's delusions , simple say because she beliefs she is parvati and rudra is her shiv , nobody bought it because it didnt make sense
@bold blue yes relatively

Edited by tttttt1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: AyeReKhushi

Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way 😊


For starters, I don't agree with Rudra "made her into a strong and independent lady"...uh what? Paro became a strong, independent lady when Tejawat revealed his true face to her and she beat him up and escaped ON HER OWN. She did what even the BSD officers couldn't do.


And one thing I don't understand. When Paro used to ignore his harsh wordsand refuse to let him go, you all call her clingy and naive. When she listens to what he wants and lets him go, you all still call her naive. She can't win. I think she tried her best with him. She always looked out for him, cared for him and loved him, despite his many threats telling her to get out, she stuck with him. Whatever she does in her life is for him, not for herself.


I for one am glad with the way things are going now.Rudra has been telling her to leave him alone for god knows how long...he calls her shameless, says he wishes he never met her, etc.Now he will get his wish and hopefully understand her worth.


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I like how it's going

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