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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Exprimere

Honestly, you may be right. I dunno. If she was numb, she was clearly thinking when she got the milk for Rudra. In a situation like this, she still puts Rudra before herself. Also, if "love" has no concept of self respect, a lot of abusive relationships may thrive on this premise, in real life.

But this is a show. It's fiction. Not real life, I understand. Yet, such a situation is indigestible to me, personally.


But I will still wait and watch. I'm a loyal viewer and I post my dissent, not just to dishearten others, but because I genuinely want the show to do well. It has a great potential, which must not be misdirected, nor remain unexploited.


That's your opinion, and that's completely fine 😊 I explained the milk situation in the post...I just believe true love is beyond self-respect, I commented on this post a while ago saying: Who decides what's acceptable in love? Who decides what's allowed and what's not allowed? The meaning of love - what defines love - has changed many times and very drastically over the course of human history. In my opinion, true love has no meaning; and when many of us are concerned with individualistic issues like self-respect in "love" that is because we are viewing "love" from a very limited, globalized, and 21st century perspective.

Also, our Paro baisa's relationship with Rudra is not abusive (in the physical sense), and her situation is different because she knows that unlike most abusers, Rudra would never physically hurt her. As for mentally hurting her, you're right, many of us would say that is abusive; but like I mentioned in my post, our Paro understands love differently and I do not think she is being mentally abused (simply because SHE doesn't see it as abuse, she sees past it all) - though that is what Rudra is trying to do. But Paro understands what Rudra is trying to do so well, it does not affect her, because she sees past his harsh words and also to her, her religion is her truth and her God has determined that her soul mate is Rudra. That is honestly one of the main reasons, I think, why Paro is so adamant on winning Rudra over. She truly believes she has her God's blessing in this. If I was religious and I believed that my God has determined for me who my soul mate was, I would do everything in my power to be with my soul mate. Maybe I would not do things properly to be with my soul mate, like Paro sometimes hasn't been doing, but I would do the best I can, from my perspective. And because I believe God has destined me to be with that specific person, that person hurting me during my quest to win him over would not throw me down, but would only make me stronger and more determined to win him over 😊 Honestly, typically I would agree with you, but I don't know - I just see Paro's love for Rudra as out of this world and completely devoid of human issues like self-respect etc. Yeah I guess in that sense, like others are saying, Paro's love for Rudra IS very worshipping and holy. It is utter belief in something/someone one believes in but does not really know know. I do hope that as the show progresses Paro understands that Rudra has a lot of flaws and that she comes to love him because of what he is despite his flaws, not because she thinks he is God's gift to her. 😃
Edited by Zeeliciousxo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12
Beautiful write up loved reading it. Agree with your take on Paro.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo


That's your opinion, and that's completely fine 😊 I explained the milk situation in the post...I just believe true love is beyond self-respect, I commented on this post a while ago saying: Who decides what's acceptable in love? Who decides what's allowed and what's not allowed? The meaning of love - what defines love - has changed many times and very drastically over the course of human history. In my opinion, true love has no meaning; and when many of us are concerned with individualistic issues like self-respect in "love" that is because we are viewing "love" from a very limited, globalized, and 21st century perspective.

Also, our Paro baisa's relationship with Rudra is not abusive (in the physical sense), and her situation is different because she knows that unlike most abusers, Rudra would never physically hurt her. As for mentally hurting her, you're right, many of us would say that is abusive; but like I mentioned in my post, our Paro understands love differently and I do not think she is being mentally abused (simply because SHE doesn't see it as abuse, she sees past it all) - though that is what Rudra is trying to do. But Paro understands what Rudra is trying to do so well, it does not affect her, because she sees past his harsh words and also to her, her religion is her truth and her God has determined that her soul mate is Rudra. That is honestly of the main reasons, I think, why Paro is so adamant on winning Rudra over. She truly believes she has her God's blessing in this. If I was religious and I believed that my God has determined for me who my soul mate was, I would do everything in my power to be with my soul mate. Maybe I would not do things properly to be with my soul mate, like Paro sometimes hasn't been doing, but I would do the best I can, from my perspective. And because I believe God has destined me to be with that specific person, that person hurting me during my quest to win him over would not throw me down, but would only make me stronger and more determined to win him over 😊 Honestly, typically I would agree with you, but I don't know - I just see Paro's love for Rudra as out of this world and completely devoid of human issues like self-respect etc. Yeah I guess in that sense, like others are saying, Paro's love for Rudra IS very worshipping and holy. It is utter belief in something/someone one believes in but does not really know know. I do hope that as the show progresses Paro understands that Rudra has a lot of flaws and that she comes to love him because of what he is despite his flaws, not because she thinks he is God's gift to her. 😃


Well yes... In this world of fiction you do make sense. Chalo, then we'll see what happens in the epi tonight.

(Thanks for reverting in such a mature manner. I never mind dissenting opinion if presented in a balanced way. A few other topics are plain disheartening. I do appreciate the reply 😊)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malini1

Beautiful write up loved reading it. Agree with your take on Paro.


Thank you, really glad you enjoyed reading it 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Exprimere


Well yes... In this world of fiction you do make sense. Chalo, then we'll see what happens in the epi tonight.

(Thanks for reverting in such a mature manner. I never mind dissenting opinion if presented in a balanced way. A few other topics are plain disheartening. I do appreciate the reply 😊)


We all have opinions based on how we are socially conditioned - so in that sense, you are not wrong, but neither am I. We all have our own truths. And if Paro was real, we would not be able to tell her that she is wrong - because she is acting based on her own social conditioning. Due to her social conditioning, she thinks her actions demonstrate love, and if/when our social conditioning is different to hers, we will disagree - but that does not mean she is wrong, and it does not mean we are wrong. I enjoyed our conversation, healthy discussions are...well...healthy 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful post ... you have explained Paro so well.
I am actually surprised that so many people don't get her ... that seems to be the product of 21st century thinking, where self-respect and pride come before compromise and selflessness in relationships. Which is not bad in itself, but in close relationships like marriage, this doesn't work.

Did Paro not react during the wedding vows because she was so shocked and numb that she didn't register what he was doing? Or because she DID register how devastated ... and drunk Rudra was ... so there was no point protesting ... especially when the vows were all nonsense anyway. He was in no state to be reasoned with or argued with ... and Paro, as well as the family, KNEW the reason he was so devastated.

The thing which made the marriage real was the sindoor and the 'mangalsutra' ... and the blessings of the family. That was the time Paro did react ... as she closed her eyes ... in anguished acceptance..

Besides, Paro wanted this marriage ... she was only upset at the way it was done. This time there were no threats to sign a false paper, or that he would kill her family if she didn't marry him ... it was all about ... you wanted this, this is what you're getting ... but not the way you want it.
And Paro can deal with that. But when Rudra is more sober ... not right now.

The bottom line is that Paro wanted this marriage ... and she trusts Rudra enough to know he won't hurt her knowingly, as much as he blusters that he will. If the cv's change this in the future, that may change too ... but this is the way they have written Rudra so far. And Paro knows this.

She also knows that Rudra does not really want her to leave, despite everything he says ... but he is scared to let her close because of his own fears of betrayal. She SHOULD know that ... the number of times he has repeated 'beautiful women can't be trusted' at her shows her that he is afraid to trust her. That is the root cause of all his illogical behaviour.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiyaS

Beautiful post ... you have explained Paro so well.

I am actually surprised that so many people don't get her ... that seems to be the product of 21st century thinking, where self-respect and pride come before compromise and selflessness in relationships. Which is not bad in itself, but in close relationships like marriage, this doesn't work.

Did Paro not react during the wedding vows because she was so shocked and numb that she didn't register what he was doing? Or because she DID register how devastated ... and drunk Rudra was ... so there was no point protesting ... especially when the vows were all nonsense anyway. He was in no state to be reasoned with or argued with ... and Paro, as well as the family, KNEW the reason he was so devastated.

The thing which made the marriage real was the sindoor and the 'mangalsutra' ... and the blessings of the family. That was the time Paro did react ... as she closed her eyes ... in anguished acceptance..

Besides, Paro wanted this marriage ... she was only upset at the way it was done. This time there were no threats to sign a false paper, or that he would kill her family if she didn't marry him ... it was all about ... you wanted this, this is what you're getting ... but not the way you want it.
And Paro can deal with that. But when Rudra is more sober ... not right now.

The bottom line is that Paro wanted this marriage ... and she trusts Rudra enough to know he won't hurt her knowingly, as much as he blusters that he will. If the cv's change this in the future, that may change too ... but this is the way they have written Rudra so far. And Paro knows this.

She also knows that Rudra does not really want her to leave, despite everything he says ... but he is scared to let her close because of his own fears of betrayal. She SHOULD know that ... the number of times he has repeated 'beautiful women can't be trusted' at her shows her that he is afraid to trust her. That is the root cause of all his illogical behaviour.


I absolutely LOVED that sentence you wrote that I bolded...it describes Rudra's main issue and his conflict with it perfectly! And yes I do think that many people are not understanding Paro because they are judging her from their limited perspective...if one tries to look at everything from her POV and her social conditioning, they would be able to understand her better.

You're absolutely right, marriage cannot work if self-respect and pride is put before compromise and selflessness. And I also think you may be right about Paro's reaction (or lack of)...either Paro went numb with shock or she registered how devastated Rudra was and so chose to stay silent while he was in such a broken, drunk avatar. Either way, she is not wrong.

I agree that this is how the CVs have painted Rudra so far, and they may change him in the future, but so far, he has been painted a certain way and for now Paro understands him perfectly.

Thank you for your lovely post/reply 👏
Edited by Zeeliciousxo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

I would also like to add a separate post saying:

Who decides what's acceptable in love? Who decides what's allowed and what's not allowed? The meaning of love - what defines love - has changed many times and very drastically over the course of human history. In my opinion, true love has no meaning; and when many of us are concerned with individualistic issues like self-respect in "love" that is because we are viewing "love" from a very limited, globalized, and 21st century perspective.


This is such a beautiful thought 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Guinea


This is such a beautiful thought 😊


Why thank you!! 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful post and agree...

Loved your take on love as well. And one cannot define its shade to be "One fit for All" may it be in the fictional or real world.

Hell if that was the case we would never have the real life Charles Sobhraj-Jurno, Hema-Dharmendra, Rishi-Neetu, Nargis-RK etc etc love stories.

In fact the fictional TV show love stories have more or less the same flavour for instance Arshi, AAK-Zoya, Zain-Aliya, Ishita-Raman, MJ-Tara, the arrogant young man and a fiesty heroine...(LOL even JA for that matter)..

So whay cant we just enjoy a Paro-Rudra love story.

Something unique with a different flavour...a heroine who confesses publicly her love for a Man and goes on to make HIM hers in her PARO kind of way!


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