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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Newbiesoapfan


Ah...a rare Pallavi sighting !!! I need people like you and Diya to explain it to me!!! Hope this is what Mr Hegde has in mind!!


Hi Pallavi!!! Stranger!!! Don't see you anywhere these days 🤗

Ash, more than Mr Hegde, I am putting my faith in Raghivir Shekhawat and the director Siddharth Sengupta ... these are names behind shows like BV and DABH, they are masters at extending shows beyond 3-5 years without compromising the story line.

I do agree that they need to show Paro's conflict more ... except that at the moment I don't think she is in much conflict. She is here against her will ... but there is not much she can do about it ... she is a girl of few words, protesting her innocence day and night is not going to have any effect. So silent defiance is all she has ... that and the occasional soft taunt. Apart from that, she is adjusting with the situation as best she can since she really doesn't have any choice.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Pallavi-

I agree with Diya.


By now Rudra should be knowing about Paro's innocence. Otherwise why on earth a girl would come back? It not only shows her innocence but also her loyalty and love towards her family and village.

So Rudra softening towards Paro is not out of place. The male lead is not a gray character here. Instead, he is a patriotic male who just doesn't want to commit to any relations for obvious reasons. His behavior towards Chacha's family is also for a reason. He is not a rogue or doesn't spit venom with others. So he softening towards Paro makes sense.

They could have done little better with Paro instead. Instead of making her sleep like she is in a coma, they could have shown her thinking process. Any girl would be having lot of questions at this juncture. Does she believe Rudra or does she believe Villagers? She definitely doesn't believe Rudra. Then if she believes the villagers, then she should at least question in her mind, why Rudra keeps talking about guns and terrorists in the village. She has definitely witnessed his softening towards her. If at all his intention is just to keep her alive, then no need to give hot water bag treatment. There are many ways to keep a suspect/witness alive. And here Rudra is doing more than that.

Though Paro is not an aggressive girl, they should show us her concern and dilemma.

Irrespective of all these, as Diya said, I too feel that this way of story building is better than showing the leads hate for no reasons in the beginning.


Rudra had a conversation with A man twice or was it thrice where the latter expressed doubt that paro could be involved. He was shoot down all three times and there was no doubt that rudra believed that paro wasn't innocent. And she is in fact caught up in the smuggling game of thakur?!
She WAS the bride of that baraat.. he knows she is.. She explicitly said she would not go to her village because she does not want him to go after her village people. How is that conducive to him thinking she is innocent?
And he threatened to immolate the village if she tried to kill herself not run away.. They have conveniently used that phrase to explain everything!
Her coming back did not have any visible softening effect on him. Then how did he go from jallad to caring so soon?
No continuity at all.. No thoughts of his on the same.. Scenes were magic but does not take away this fact!
When he saved Paros life multiple times there was no doubt in her mind that he was a jallad but just her innocence in sleep is supposed to be changing him.. Was there any self dialogs from rudra where he questioned if he was wrong! No!
Him pulling her behind him and pulling out a gun is normal.. he is protecting his witness.. Tasting the water is also fine.. But showing such tenderness.. without any dialog to himself.. And the romantic song is misleading here.. That's totally out of the blue.
When I saw the promo I thought he would talk to his dad and figure out that she ran out to help him and that's why he softens towards her. But there was no such scene. We had all the supporting characters express their feelings but nothing from rudra and paro..!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: -Pallavi-

I agree with Diya.


By now Rudra should be knowing about Paro's innocence. Otherwise why on earth a girl would come back? It not only shows her innocence but also her loyalty and love towards her family and village.

So Rudra softening towards Paro is not out of place. The male lead is not a gray character here. Instead, he is a patriotic male who just doesn't want to commit to any relations for obvious reasons. His behavior towards Chacha's family is also for a reason. He is not a rogue or doesn't spit venom with others. So he softening towards Paro makes sense.

They could have done little better with Paro instead. Instead of making her sleep like she is in a coma, they could have shown her thinking process. Any girl would be having lot of questions at this juncture. Does she believe Rudra or does she believe Villagers? She definitely doesn't believe Rudra. Then if she believes the villagers, then she should at least question in her mind, why Rudra keeps talking about guns and terrorists in the village. She has definitely witnessed his softening towards her. If at all his intention is just to keep her alive, then no need to give hot water bag treatment. There are many ways to keep a suspect/witness alive. And here Rudra is doing more than that.

Though Paro is not an aggressive girl, they should show us her concern and dilemma.

Irrespective of all these, as Diya said, I too feel that this way of story building is better than showing the leads hate for no reasons in the beginning.


Very valid points...neither of them is shown as thinking at all in fact!
Ok..given that Rudra is silently accepting..however random that May seem what about paro...
If Rudra is swayed by her beauty and innocence and has started believing he may be wrong will paro also soften towards him on learning about the pain in his past?
Is that the purpose of the new promo..would that be acceptable given that he is still the murderer of her husband?
Rudra is not a grey character but he IS staunchly of the opinion that beautiful women are not to be trusted! That's what is jarring about this sudden shift..this whole mom abandoned him and dad told him not to trust beautiful women..has been played so many times..and he still shows such tenderness to a suspect without any visible reason for the change of heart!
They should start showing the two thinking about the situation..story seems to be shifting from the smuggling..only to keep them together is the original plot being mentioned at all!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Nice post, savvy, and some interesting takes here.

My thoughts ... copy pasting from another post ... sorry if they go against the grain of the thread.

I have also read many posts on the forum saying it's too soon, why is Paro softening so quickly, why is Rudra falling in love so quickly ...

All I will say is ... maybe we have got used to love hate love stories where the lead pair hate each other for the flimsiest of reasons, on the basis of the silliest misunderstandings, and continue to hate each other despite all evidence to the contrary ... they seem to lose their brains as well as their hearts, and it is perfectly understandable.

Here Paro has reason to hate Rudra ... he shot her husband in front of her eyes ... there is no question of a MU on that one, and it's not a flimsy reason. But there is an MU there too ... she doesn't know it was to save her life.
Also because of him, she has lost her village, her extended family. She already has reason to hate the BSD, because she has been told they killed her parents.

BUT BUT BUT ... here is where the disconnect comes in ... why is she not shouting and screaming at him, crying and weeping and wailing all the time ... refusing to have anything to do with him? Why does she not shoot daggers at him with her eyes? Why does she seem so comfortable with him?

This is where Paro's character is different ...
She is a timid village girl ... already established it takes a lot for her to speak up. It took her all her courage to come back to Rudra after she realised she had simply nowhere else to go ... he would carry out his threat to destroy her villagers if she went back to them ...
Her courage is simply in losing her fear and dealing with him without fear. Standing up to face him. She who would lose her voice, and be frozen to the spot at even the sight of a BSD officer ... she now speaks to him clearly and firmly, without a tremor in her voice.

This is also where Rudra's character is different ..
He distrusts beautiful women ... that is what he has been taught all his life
He hates traitors, he is a staunch patriot

BUT BUT BUT he does have some brains ... Paro came back to prove her innocence ... deny it as much as he want in words, this must mean that she IS innocent ... from being suspect in his eyes, she has gone to being only witness ...a witness he has to protect, because he already knows her life is in danger.
He has no personal hatred towards Paro (unlike Paro) ... the reverse ... he has seen her being abandoned by her village, her foster mother ... the same way his own mother abandoned him and he was left rudderless in life ... he is furious with her that despite her family betraying her, she continues to shield them .. a reluctant sympathy at her plight, which finds its outlet in anger, because that's what Rudra is.
He has been the parent, the caregiver to his father most of his life, instead of the reverse ...

All these traits make Rudra the Protector ... that is his character. And yes, there is some softening ... the impersonal hatred for beautiful women warring with the sympathy and care for the beautiful woman who is completely dependent on him ... whose situation is somewhat similar to his.

Sumi, you wrote ...
In Paro's character, we cannot expect her to throw swear words at Rudra.. 😆 Or scream at him 24*7.. Or cry endlessly.. Because THIS is just not how she hates.. Her hate is basically her indifference.. Her refusal to seek help from him. Even if she is unable to walk on her own.. Her pains are not forgotten.. But she has learned to come to terms with the past and live in present in best possible way..

I will add ... Paro is gentle rain ... she is not fire. Rudra is 'tapti ret' ...
When rain falls on burning coals ... they splutter, they hiss ... and they die out. Thus Paro will always be the calming influence in Rudra's life ...

See the three interactions she has had with him since she came back ...
First ... she asked for clothes ... still scared, still hesitant ... the night she came back.

Second ... he tore her sleeve ... she asked for needle and thread ... that second interaction was already much firmer and more confident than the first hesitant, still scared request for clothes. The needle and thread was almost a demand ... accompanied by a firm 'you broke it, now you fix it' statement.

The third ... the calm statement at the bike ... you're angry because things didn't go your way, aren't you?
What happened to Rudra's anger at her question ? He spluttered a bit, he grumbled, he let out his frustration with a mild taunt ... and helped her tie her helmet. Anger defused most effectively.

The biggest difference ... and maybe why people feel it is happening too soon ... is that both are not blind to the good points of each other ... they are seeing them. Since we are used to selective blindness in the leads for months and months on end, we find it odd.
But I'm trusting the makers on this one ... they are very, very experienced ... and if this is what they are showing us, its because this is what they WANT to show us.

Ahead ... let's see what happens.



Diya, WORD.
I agree with your each and every point.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#75
Paro is not a character who voices out her opinions and anger. She speaks only to her close ones.
Right now the whole village has abandoned her. The only person helping her and keeping her alive is Rudra. She can see this. Though Rudra does this as she is the only witness, he is now not accusing her of being a traitor. If you see he calls her a witness not a traitor anymore. He wants evidence against Thakur and Paro is the only one alive who will give him that.

Paro's has yet to come terms with her life. right now too much is going for her. She is literally being dragged from one place to another.
She still calls Rudra as Jallad. She had initially fought back but even she knows that shouting and crying will take her nowhere. She will prove her innocence by facing Rudra and his anger with her calmness and silent nature. Not by questioning him, arguing with him, disobeying him or harming him in any possible way.

She has seen the caring side of Rudra though she thinks that he does so only as she is witness.
She knows that Rudra will protect her no matter what. For now Rudra is her only hope. She now wants to remain alive for proving her innocence.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: savvy05


Ah.. the bike ride was an opportunity missed for me. She was explaining his questioning rather than the other way around.

She had a voice and backbone and one was dropped this week for reasons unknown particularly when the stage was ripe for another fantastic argument between Paro and Rudra
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Yeah..you would expect her to show her displeasure at being labelled his fianc to him atleast in private the first chance she got!
Instead she chose to lower her voice and change it to one that would justify Dilsher's " baarish on tapti ret" statement!
Why does she need to ask why he is angry?Many have likened that conversation to husband wife bickering and that's the exact issue..too soon for that much comfort when neither has shown an inclination to give an inch!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: win7

Awesome post.

Somethings are good but somethings are missing.


many things are missing



Edited by -seema- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I would have liked a bit more of insight into what Paro thinks and feels about being labeled as the Jallad's fiance ... maybe some subtle indication of sadness or anger at how fate keeps tossing her about into such situations; and maybe showing some of her displeasure onto Rudra (after all she holds him as the cause of what has happened to her). I get it that Paro is more subdued in character and so not expecting her to be over-dramatic but some anger or displeasure conveyed subtly in sync with her character would help. But showing nothing at all makes it seem like she probably doesn't care... And oh yeah, the bg music and the poetry are all OTT given the current situation...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: docgirl


TGIF and there's a Take 5 ---double mazaa! 🤣

1. Yes that Mo-Chi sa is quite the fire...err... masala breathing dragon! The ropes would char, heck the seas would part with one masala heavy breath! 😆

5. I was hoping to avoid the usual mockery of medicine that soapland manages without fail - but humari aisi kismat kahan?!? Use hot water bag to treat swollen ankle - wonly in soap duniya!!! 😡


@bold: either they haven't heard of Ice packs or it melted with all the sizzling chemistry...😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hola Diya😃 Very nice reading your POV and thanks for posting because this thread was mostly against the flow of the forum last evening.

I love the calm, composed yet steely Paro they showed last Friday. Went and re-watched the 3 min clip alone before making the header post. There was so much of anger, fear yet firm determination in her voice that lead me to believe that finally we are getting a different female protagonist. She seemed to have reconciled her fate within the four walls which was ok.. but the huge disconnect came on what happened outside the room - Chachi'sa outburst and her impending wedding declared. Considering the protected environment she was raised in where was the anger, the disgust and frustration? Barely two sentences were exchanged about this. They do not need to bludgeon us with flash backs forever but at least focus a few shots on Paro thinking about what happened. Before Rudra entered into the commotion, the camera focused on him for a good minute or so trying to make headway of the happenings, even that sole time of reflection was not given for Paro.

I agree, I do not believe Paro and Rudra are any where near love/shove😛. There are sharing space and that's all there is to it. As Visi said sometimes the BG music with its very powerful lyrics distorts a regular TFC equivalent scene. The scene where Rudra sees Paro in his clothes was well done and the
instrumental BG without any words, perfect!!

The point I am saying is they had all the pieces yet the ebb and flow was missing this week.

Edited by savvy05 - 11 years ago

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