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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: docgirl


I don't think so... if they did, i snoozed right thru it along with Paro-sa! šŸ˜†


šŸ˜† I thought he was going to make tea for himself when he started boiling water šŸ˜† and ponder on Aman's comments about impending court-martial and think what to do next.

Yehaan toh he started kavi-giri followed by doctor-giri šŸ˜†

side note- Still getting value out of this show. More than SI, Ashish is inspiring me to get fit and spend some time on my hair-care. Regardless of what they are making him do in show, the guy is fit and fine ā­ļøand has great hair.ā­ļø




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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Dear Diary,

I thought I was super busy in AD hence couldn't keep tap on Dude and Paro. Turns out I was knocked out for almost a year. How else do you explain that they are already on episode #200, playing house -house errr tent-tent near the border. Chalata hai.
No wonder they are bickering like a couple who has known each other for long time, have resolved most of the conflict and can now concentrate on building the relationship, Chalata hai.
I also learned that Paro and Bindudi used to love playing a game called three handed roti making. You know the one where they tie your one hand wit other person and then you have to make perfectly round roti. If not for that, there is no way Paro-sa would have made them so perfectly. I wish I had played that as a girl. Poor husband would have eaten edible roties lot earlier. Par Chalata hai.
Paro and Dude also seems to be suffering from selective memory loss. Probably a side effect of MoChi-sa masaledar zingers. Dude has forgotten Laila and thinks giving Paro foot massage enough. Where as Paro has forgotten about Rukmini all together.
Pulled a Dipsy this whole week btw. Par Chalata haišŸ˜‰
Edited by dips99 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: mitthoo


@bold time to unleash Ash "If only PH had hired me to do screenplay, ..writing..directing..for the show " series šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†

Those daily posts have been most fun I have with RR 😊😊

Hi- Vistoo.. My Lucknawi Shaam 😃



Dimmy word!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: dips99

Dear Diary,

I thought I was super busy in AD hence keep tap on Dude and Paro. Turns out I was knocked out for almost a year. How else do you explain that they are already on episode #200, playing house -house errr tent-tent near the border. Chalata hai.
No wonder they are bickering like a couple who has knows each other for long time, have resolved most of the conflict and can now concentrate on building the relationship, Chalata hai.
I also learned that Paro and Bindudi used to love playing a game called three handed roti making. You know the one where they tie your one hand wit other person and then you have to make perfectly round roti. If not for that, there is no way Paro-sa would have made them so perfectly. I wish I had played that as a girl. Poor husband would have eaten edible roties lot earlier. Par Chalata hai.
Paro and Dude also seems to be suffering from selective memory loss. Probably a side effect of MoChi-sa masaledar zingers. Dude has forgotten Laila and thinks giving Paro foot massage enough. Where as Paro has forgotten about Rukmini all together.
Pulled a Dipsy this whole week btw. Par Chalata haišŸ˜‰

Love your post 😊
Yes sab chalta hain.. šŸ˜‰

CVs Thoda aur dhyan denge toh bas daudega.. Loved their chemistry.. Acting top notched.. Tiny winy clinched is fine.. Chala lenge..šŸ˜‰

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Posted: 11 years ago
#65
Nice post, savvy, and some interesting takes here.
My thoughts ... copy pasting from another post ... sorry if they go against the grain of the thread.

I have also read many posts on the forum saying it's too soon, why is Paro softening so quickly, why is Rudra falling in love so quickly ...

All I will say is ... maybe we have got used to love hate love stories where the lead pair hate each other for the flimsiest of reasons, on the basis of the silliest misunderstandings, and continue to hate each other despite all evidence to the contrary ... they seem to lose their brains as well as their hearts, and it is perfectly understandable.

Here Paro has reason to hate Rudra ... he shot her husband in front of her eyes ... there is no question of a MU on that one, and it's not a flimsy reason. But there is an MU there too ... she doesn't know it was to save her life.
Also because of him, she has lost her village, her extended family. She already has reason to hate the BSD, because she has been told they killed her parents.

BUT BUT BUT ... here is where the disconnect comes in ... why is she not shouting and screaming at him, crying and weeping and wailing all the time ... refusing to have anything to do with him? Why does she not shoot daggers at him with her eyes? Why does she seem so comfortable with him?

This is where Paro's character is different ...
She is a timid village girl ... already established it takes a lot for her to speak up. It took her all her courage to come back to Rudra after she realised she had simply nowhere else to go ... he would carry out his threat to destroy her villagers if she went back to them ...
Her courage is simply in losing her fear and dealing with him without fear. Standing up to face him. She who would lose her voice, and be frozen to the spot at even the sight of a BSD officer ... she now speaks to him clearly and firmly, without a tremor in her voice.

This is also where Rudra's character is different ..
He distrusts beautiful women ... that is what he has been taught all his life
He hates traitors, he is a staunch patriot

BUT BUT BUT he does have some brains ... Paro came back to prove her innocence ... deny it as much as he want in words, this must mean that she IS innocent ... from being suspect in his eyes, she has gone to being only witness ...a witness he has to protect, because he already knows her life is in danger.
He has no personal hatred towards Paro (unlike Paro) ... the reverse ... he has seen her being abandoned by her village, her foster mother ... the same way his own mother abandoned him and he was left rudderless in life ... he is furious with her that despite her family betraying her, she continues to shield them .. a reluctant sympathy at her plight, which finds its outlet in anger, because that's what Rudra is.
He has been the parent, the caregiver to his father most of his life, instead of the reverse ...

All these traits make Rudra the Protector ... that is his character. And yes, there is some softening ... the impersonal hatred for beautiful women warring with the sympathy and care for the beautiful woman who is completely dependent on him ... whose situation is somewhat similar to his.

Sumi, you wrote ...
In Paro's character, we cannot expect her to throw swear words at Rudra.. šŸ˜† Or scream at him 24*7.. Or cry endlessly.. Because THIS is just not how she hates.. Her hate is basically her indifference.. Her refusal to seek help from him. Even if she is unable to walk on her own.. Her pains are not forgotten.. But she has learned to come to terms with the past and live in present in best possible way..

I will add ... Paro is gentle rain ... she is not fire. Rudra is 'tapti ret' ...
When rain falls on burning coals ... they splutter, they hiss ... and they die out. Thus Paro will always be the calming influence in Rudra's life ...

See the three interactions she has had with him since she came back ...
First ... she asked for clothes ... still scared, still hesitant ... the night she came back.

Second ... he tore her sleeve ... she asked for needle and thread ... that second interaction was already much firmer and more confident than the first hesitant, still scared request for clothes. The needle and thread was almost a demand ... accompanied by a firm 'you broke it, now you fix it' statement.

The third ... the calm statement at the bike ... you're angry because things didn't go your way, aren't you?
What happened to Rudra's anger at her question ? He spluttered a bit, he grumbled, he let out his frustration with a mild taunt ... and helped her tie her helmet. Anger defused most effectively.

The biggest difference ... and maybe why people feel it is happening too soon ... is that both are not blind to the good points of each other ... they are seeing them. Since we are used to selective blindness in the leads for months and months on end, we find it odd.
But I'm trusting the makers on this one ... they are very, very experienced ... and if this is what they are showing us, its because this is what they WANT to show us.

Ahead ... let's see what happens.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Nice post, savvy, and some interesting takes here.

My thoughts ... copy pasting from another post ... sorry if they go against the grain of the thread.

I have also read many posts on the forum saying it's too soon, why is Paro softening so quickly, why is Rudra falling in love so quickly ...

All I will say is ... maybe we have got used to love hate love stories where the lead pair hate each other for the flimsiest of reasons, on the basis of the silliest misunderstandings, and continue to hate each other despite all evidence to the contrary ... they seem to lose their brains as well as their hearts, and it is perfectly understandable.

Here Paro has reason to hate Rudra ... he shot her husband in front of her eyes ... there is no question of a MU on that one, and it's not a flimsy reason. But there is an MU there too ... she doesn't know it was to save her life.
Also because of him, she has lost her village, her extended family. She already has reason to hate the BSD, because she has been told they killed her parents.

BUT BUT BUT ... here is where the disconnect comes in ... why is she not shouting and screaming at him, crying and weeping and wailing all the time ... refusing to have anything to do with him? Why does she not shoot daggers at him with her eyes? Why does she seem so comfortable with him?

This is where Paro's character is different ...
She is a timid village girl ... already established it takes a lot for her to speak up. It took her all her courage to come back to Rudra after she realised she had simply nowhere else to go ... he would carry out his threat to destroy her villagers if she went back to them ...
Her courage is simply in losing her fear and dealing with him without fear. Standing up to face him. She who would lose her voice, and be frozen to the spot at even the sight of a BSD officer ... she now speaks to him clearly and firmly, without a tremor in her voice.

This is also where Rudra's character is different ..
He distrusts beautiful women ... that is what he has been taught all his life
He hates traitors, he is a staunch patriot

BUT BUT BUT he does have some brains ... Paro came back to prove her innocence ... deny it as much as he want in words, this must mean that she IS innocent ... from being suspect in his eyes, she has gone to being only witness ...a witness he has to protect, because he already knows her life is in danger.
He has no personal hatred towards Paro (unlike Paro) ... the reverse ... he has seen her being abandoned by her village, her foster mother ... the same way his own mother abandoned him and he was left rudderless in life ... he is furious with her that despite her family betraying her, she continues to shield them .. a reluctant sympathy at her plight, which finds its outlet in anger, because that's what Rudra is.
He has been the parent, the caregiver to his father most of his life, instead of the reverse ...

All these traits make Rudra the Protector ... that is his character. And yes, there is some softening ... the impersonal hatred for beautiful women warring with the sympathy and care for the beautiful woman who is completely dependent on him ... whose situation is somewhat similar to his.

Sumi, you wrote ...
In Paro's character, we cannot expect her to throw swear words at Rudra.. šŸ˜† Or scream at him 24*7.. Or cry endlessly.. Because THIS is just not how she hates.. Her hate is basically her indifference.. Her refusal to seek help from him. Even if she is unable to walk on her own.. Her pains are not forgotten.. But she has learned to come to terms with the past and live in present in best possible way..

I will add ... Paro is gentle rain ... she is not fire. Rudra is 'tapti ret' ...
When rain falls on burning coals ... they splutter, they hiss ... and they die out. Thus Paro will always be the calming influence in Rudra's life ...

See the three interactions she has had with him since she came back ...
First ... she asked for clothes ... still scared, still hesitant ... the night she came back.

Second ... he tore her sleeve ... she asked for needle and thread ... that second interaction was already much firmer and more confident than the first hesitant, still scared request for clothes. The needle and thread was almost a demand ... accompanied by a firm 'you broke it, now you fix it' statement.

The third ... the calm statement at the bike ... you're angry because things didn't go your way, aren't you?
What happened to Rudra's anger at her question ? He spluttered a bit, he grumbled, he let out his frustration with a mild taunt ... and helped her tie her helmet. Anger defused most effectively.

The biggest difference ... and maybe why people feel it is happening too soon ... is that both are not blind to the good points of each other ... they are seeing them. Since we are used to selective blindness in the leads for months and months on end, we find it odd.
But I'm trusting the makers on this one ... they are very, very experienced ... and if this is what they are showing us, its because this is what they WANT to show us.

Ahead ... let's see what happens.

hi diya, i kinda see your POV, but what would help is if they had some kind of introspective dialogs to help the viewers, just a little bit here and there ... it's not always easy to follow what's going on through the minds of the characters and i always felt one shouldn't have to explain too many things before viewers follow, this is not a detective story for us to investigate šŸ˜‰
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: showviewer

I see what you mean by missed opportunity by writers. In trying to fit in the family drama and involving all the characters this week, they seem to have compromised on showing the angst between the leads. There is some attraction from Rudra's side and awareness of sharing space with the opposite sex between both but they are far from having any tender feelings.


The whole drama of Paro coming out in open, Dilsher declaring her Rudra's fiancee and Rudra taking her to the camp happened very fast, before anyone could reflect on it. In today's episode Rudra and Paro were alone for few moments, in which Paro did say he cared for her only because she was his key witness. Next time they were together she was asleep. Last week Paro vowed she won't cry and face things as they come. She told Rudra the same, that she is ready to face what he throws at her till the day he realises his mistake. She is not seeking revenge or ways to get back at him. Her strength comes from her belief in Bolenath, in her knowledge that she is innocent and loyalty to her loved ones.

Yesterday, Dilsher strengthened her belief that Rudra will hurt her loved ones if she escaped or sought help from others. There is no point arguing with Rudra about the current MU with his family because she knows it's not of his making, infact he dislikes it himself.

Paro has always been calm, she is going along with what life is putting her through as she sees no other option open to her right now. If she can't escape from Rudra, then she will adjust to her situation till she can earn her freedom without endangering her village. She did it once before when she was orphaned as a kid and now again when she is abandoned and learning to live with it. She is no longer afraid that Rudra will harm her physically, and slowly but surely she is learning to speak her mind with him, much to his irritation. Neither today nor yesterday she asked Rudra for help or expect care for her sprained ankle, she will bear her pain without any pity from others.

What I expected was that Rudra would be more agitated than he was with this new development. He is much softer with Paro than I thought he would be. Physical attraction, yes, but I cannot imagine any emotional attachment right now from his side. The shayari and song with the last scene may be throwing people off, otherwise as Jamba said Rudra just tended to her sprain. In the same way the creatives should focus on Paro's flashbacks and pain to show that hostilities between them still exist, though the mortal fear may have gone. I expected something when Aman came with her box, thought she will be flooded with flashbacks. They played the sad BG, but did not focus on her pain, instead highlighted Rudra's concern for her clothing.

I am hoping next week when Rudra and chachaji decide to bring Paro back as his fiancee to the haveli, they will show some of the hurt, angst and even refusal. Rudra and Paro not liking the idea for their own reasons. I am not sure if I got any point across, but this is how I understood the episodes.




I felt the same way. You had put it down perfectly. It was just yesterday that Paro and Rudra were in heated argument, where Paro challenged Rudra and before both can sink in the happenings Paro was exposed. They were arguing even near the bike but it looked more like nok jok as Paro stopped being afraid of Rudra and was giving him piece of her mind. Rudra tending to her ankle was not out of his love or care for her. It shows that he is a kind human and not a jallad. The BG was bit confusing as many thought he had feelings for her but now a days BG music has become so common when main leads are in one frame. There is no love at all between them, maybe a little attraction or concern from Rudras side. Paro is till trying to understand everything happening around her and her place.

This is what I understood.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68
I agree with Diya.

By now Rudra should be knowing about Paro's innocence. Otherwise why on earth a girl would come back? It not only shows her innocence but also her loyalty and love towards her family and village.

So Rudra softening towards Paro is not out of place. The male lead is not a gray character here. Instead, he is a patriotic male who just doesn't want to commit to any relations for obvious reasons. His behavior towards Chacha's family is also for a reason. He is not a rogue or doesn't spit venom with others. So he softening towards Paro makes sense.

They could have done little better with Paro instead. Instead of making her sleep like she is in a coma, they could have shown her thinking process. Any girl would be having lot of questions at this juncture. Does she believe Rudra or does she believe Villagers? She definitely doesn't believe Rudra. Then if she believes the villagers, then she should at least question in her mind, why Rudra keeps talking about guns and terrorists in the village. She has definitely witnessed his softening towards her. If at all his intention is just to keep her alive, then no need to give hot water bag treatment. There are many ways to keep a suspect/witness alive. And here Rudra is doing more than that.

Though Paro is not an aggressive girl, they should show us her concern and dilemma.

Irrespective of all these, as Diya said, I too feel that this way of story building is better than showing the leads hate for no reasons in the beginning.

Edited by -Pallavi- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Nice post, savvy, and some interesting takes here.

My thoughts ... copy pasting from another post ... sorry if they go against the grain of the thread.

I have also read many posts on the forum saying it's too soon, why is Paro softening so quickly, why is Rudra falling in love so quickly ...

All I will say is ... maybe we have got used to love hate love stories where the lead pair hate each other for the flimsiest of reasons, on the basis of the silliest misunderstandings, and continue to hate each other despite all evidence to the contrary ... they seem to lose their brains as well as their hearts, and it is perfectly understandable.

Here Paro has reason to hate Rudra ... he shot her husband in front of her eyes ... there is no question of a MU on that one, and it's not a flimsy reason. But there is an MU there too ... she doesn't know it was to save her life.
Also because of him, she has lost her village, her extended family. She already has reason to hate the BSD, because she has been told they killed her parents.

BUT BUT BUT ... here is where the disconnect comes in ... why is she not shouting and screaming at him, crying and weeping and wailing all the time ... refusing to have anything to do with him? Why does she not shoot daggers at him with her eyes? Why does she seem so comfortable with him?

This is where Paro's character is different ...
She is a timid village girl ... already established it takes a lot for her to speak up. It took her all her courage to come back to Rudra after she realised she had simply nowhere else to go ... he would carry out his threat to destroy her villagers if she went back to them ...
Her courage is simply in losing her fear and dealing with him without fear. Standing up to face him. She who would lose her voice, and be frozen to the spot at even the sight of a BSD officer ... she now speaks to him clearly and firmly, without a tremor in her voice.

This is also where Rudra's character is different ..
He distrusts beautiful women ... that is what he has been taught all his life
He hates traitors, he is a staunch patriot

BUT BUT BUT he does have some brains ... Paro came back to prove her innocence ... deny it as much as he want in words, this must mean that she IS innocent ... from being suspect in his eyes, she has gone to being only witness ...a witness he has to protect, because he already knows her life is in danger.
He has no personal hatred towards Paro (unlike Paro) ... the reverse ... he has seen her being abandoned by her village, her foster mother ... the same way his own mother abandoned him and he was left rudderless in life ... he is furious with her that despite her family betraying her, she continues to shield them .. a reluctant sympathy at her plight, which finds its outlet in anger, because that's what Rudra is.
He has been the parent, the caregiver to his father most of his life, instead of the reverse ...

All these traits make Rudra the Protector ... that is his character. And yes, there is some softening ... the impersonal hatred for beautiful women warring with the sympathy and care for the beautiful woman who is completely dependent on him ... whose situation is somewhat similar to his.

Sumi, you wrote ...
In Paro's character, we cannot expect her to throw swear words at Rudra.. šŸ˜† Or scream at him 24*7.. Or cry endlessly.. Because THIS is just not how she hates.. Her hate is basically her indifference.. Her refusal to seek help from him. Even if she is unable to walk on her own.. Her pains are not forgotten.. But she has learned to come to terms with the past and live in present in best possible way..

I will add ... Paro is gentle rain ... she is not fire. Rudra is 'tapti ret' ...
When rain falls on burning coals ... they splutter, they hiss ... and they die out. Thus Paro will always be the calming influence in Rudra's life ...

See the three interactions she has had with him since she came back ...
First ... she asked for clothes ... still scared, still hesitant ... the night she came back.

Second ... he tore her sleeve ... she asked for needle and thread ... that second interaction was already much firmer and more confident than the first hesitant, still scared request for clothes. The needle and thread was almost a demand ... accompanied by a firm 'you broke it, now you fix it' statement.

The third ... the calm statement at the bike ... you're angry because things didn't go your way, aren't you?
What happened to Rudra's anger at her question ? He spluttered a bit, he grumbled, he let out his frustration with a mild taunt ... and helped her tie her helmet. Anger defused most effectively.

The biggest difference ... and maybe why people feel it is happening too soon ... is that both are not blind to the good points of each other ... they are seeing them. Since we are used to selective blindness in the leads for months and months on end, we find it odd.
But I'm trusting the makers on this one ... they are very, very experienced ... and if this is what they are showing us, its because this is what they WANT to show us.

Ahead ... let's see what happens.



Very well said ..diya .. This is not the regular love late story... Infact I doubt there will be any hate in this story...it will be reluctance, reservations,
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: -Pallavi-

I agree with Diya.


By now Rudra should be knowing about Paro's innocence. Otherwise why on earth a girl would come back? It not only shows her innocence but also her loyalty and love towards her family and village.

So Rudra softening towards Paro is not out of place. The male lead is not a gray character here. Instead, he is a patriotic male who just doesn't want to commit to any relations for obvious reasons. His behavior towards Chacha's family is also for a reason. He is not a rogue or doesn't spit venom with others. So he softening towards Paro makes sense.

They could have done little better with Paro instead. Instead of making her sleep like she is in a coma, they could have shown her thinking process. Any girl would be having lot of questions at this juncture. Does she believe Rudra or does she believe Villagers? She definitely doesn't believe Rudra. Then if she believes the villagers, then she should at least question in her mind, why Rudra keeps talking about guns and terrorists in the village. She has definitely witnessed his softening towards her. If at all his intention is just to keep her alive, then no need to give hot water bag treatment. There are many ways to keep a suspect/witness alive. And here Rudra is doing more than that.

Though Paro is not an aggressive girl, they should show us her concern and dilemma.

Irrespective of all these, as Diya said, I too feel that this way of story building is better than showing the leads hate for no reasons in the beginning.


Ah...a rare Pallavi sighting !!! I need people like you and Diya to explain it to me!!! Hope this is what Mr Hegde has in mind!!

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