TRP Travails & why shows fail

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Posted: 11 years ago
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My 1st Indian TV show was IPKKND & since then though i dont watch any other shows ve got interested in this industry. I read most of the discussions & sometimes even participate in it. Frm my limited knowledge of this industry i ve come 2 the conclusion that there is no place for true love/romantic story in the Indian TV landscape. The reasons r plenty.

1. Ours is a conservative society which frowns on love, PDA, premarital sex etc. Any true love must ve these ingredients which obviously cant b digested by Indian viewers.
2. There is this hypocritical attitude towards women here. While the men can stray once in a while & simply get an indulgent comment tat Men ll b men, women r expected 2 b innocent, sacrificing & ve old values. So if the heroine is shown as romancing, sleeping with someone ppl ll b aghast & start taking out morchas.
3. Most of the heroines r too straightforward & shown as Innocent as snow. That is yawn boring. No human being is plain black or white. There needs to b shades of grey & more complex, subtle layers to the character. However the writers dont take a effort to create such complex, interesting characters. Result the leads r 1 dimensional. The hero ll b the typical angry handsome young man who hates women & the heroine will be the proverbial virginal maid who changes him. This makes for cliched, boring, stereotype tracks & aft a point all love shows start resembling each other in plot at a broader level.
4. To bring in TRPs the desperate writers bring in unwanted elements like family, saas-bahu torture, comedy etc which makes no sense & ultimately drives away even the original fans who wanted a different show. Classic case of the donkey story where the father & son clown around with the donkey just to please everyone & finally end up drowning the donkey.

End conclusion is i don't think RR might b any diff. All such shows start with good intention but slowly start veering off course due to the TRP woes.

Dying to c the day when v ll ve an Indian version of Rebecca or Wuthering Heights. That's a delicious prospect which might never materialize 😕

Forum friends r most welcome to add to the above points or refute by forwarding their arguments 😊

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Targaryen-gal thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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So true.
I don't stick to many Indian soaps for a very long time.
Also Indian soaps are aired five or six days a week and that too for an indefinite amount of time so writers just stretch the story like a chewing gum. If these shows were to be seasonal everything would have been different.
The angry boy and desperate gal thingie is seen in almost everrryyy korean drama. But still they are not boring as they are definite.

You know what happened to Indian dramas??
Ekta mataji happened.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Targaryen-gal

So true.
I don't stick to many Indian soaps for a very long time.
Also Indian soaps are aired five or six days a week and that too for an indefinite amount of time so writers just stretch the story like a chewing gum. If these shows were to be seasonal everything would have been different.
The angry boy and desperate gal thingie is seen in almost everrryyy korean drama. But still they are not boring as they are definite.

You know what happened to Indian dramas??
Ekta mataji happened.



Chalo koyi tha reply kiya, usually no1 reads or responds 2 my posts 😆

Waiting to hear more frm other RR friends!
Edited by Angels11 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Targaryen-gal

So true.
I don't stick to many Indian soaps for a very long time.
Also Indian soaps are aired five or six days a week and that too for an indefinite amount of time so writers just stretch the story like a chewing gum. If these shows were to be seasonal everything would have been different.
The angry boy and desperate gal thingie is seen in almost everrryyy korean drama. But still they are not boring as they are definite.

You know what happened to Indian dramas??
Ekta mataji happened.

Angry boy innocent girl..when a man loves
Arrogant man school teacher..a gentleman's dignity is my altime favorite Korean drama..
I watch it as I know it will be over in the 20th century.
But this is a soap.it has to be lengthened.like the bold and the beautiful.that serial has been there from when I was in college.now I am married and have 2 kids,even now it is airing.
It is going to be the same way.but even with the arrival of TRP family,I like the show..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hola Angel
This is a mystery everyone is trying to figure out.

Its hard to clump the entire desi crowd under one umbrella. There is a large mass of people in semi-urban, rural areas that finds TV its only source of entertainment. They relish in the daily sas bahu skirmishes and enjoy the back and forth, repartee, conspiracies and revenge saga.

Much like our movies, where action thrillers and formulaic stories sell, while oddball and different movies take time to find its footing.

TRPs are a very monolithic, mono-dimensional measure of success. In those numbers we don't know who watched what in a household. If a show was made to appeal to the young, TRP does not tell you if the show reached the young or not. Irrespective, TRPs are only useful to generate ad revenues, nothing less, nothing more. If channels get the necessary ad revenues from a slot, TRPs rarely matter then. Most media outlets in india are making tons of money because the leading GECs are not lacking in ad generated revenues, and therefore, there is no impetus to change the quality of shows shown in those slots. The GECs might experiment here and there, but those experiments are usually saved for non-prime slots.

Finally, desi audience is so vast and varied, it will be hard to find a show that caters to everyone's tastes. What usually works is a lowest common denominator of quality that appeals to a broad scope of people. Thats what most sas bahu shows offer - the lowest common denominator.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The format of an Indian TV serial is very different from that of a western one which airs once in a week and leaves more room for being selective.

Indian audience watch TV with family...and not on their own as most people in the west do...For a show to become successful in the general category (which is just one category for all soaps on prime time), it has to appeal not only to a selective audience but to the more " common" audience.

It would not be fair to judge them by the same stick, or by the same criterion.

However, one thing that I think is true for Indian shows is that it has to be something that is "FEEL GOOD". There is already a lot of stress in people's lives...and they don't tune in to see a work of art but a work for their entertainment...Now, what is entertaining does not have to be common in all shows and there is some room to be different but...when they have to churn out episodes day in and day out...for months after months...it is bound to become common and repetitive...with at least some commonplace characters, and a lot of common place situations.

The only places (practically... I think) of difference are...a) the individuality an actor adds to a character...by playing it a certain way...and b) The way CVs write the main characters to keep them interesting for the people to want to tune in...day in and day out...

Regarding TRP...yes, it is a monolithic measure as SJ puts it...but it is the overall number that is still important to the producers, considering the show is on a regular channel on a prime time slot...where the general viewership is what they are going for.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You are 101% correct. Such concepts where the heroine is flawed can't be digested by the Indian viewers. One such show was Dekha Ek Khwab of Sony channel which was not accepted by Indian Viewers but it sold off overseas. The main reason was the different concept of the show. The heroine was selfish, childish, had high aims in life, made stupid mistakes but yet not bad at heart. Hero was a Casanova, but fell in lve with this girl and schemed several ways to get this girl, only to fail every time. The concept was a love story, with an eventual journey of the lead heroine from a childish to a matured person.

The result was falling TRPs and the show went off air...What can be said...This is Indian Soap and their are a group of people who watch television n that's how TRP's count😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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My Opinion :D

Each show when penned down starts off with i would say a good concept, some very original and if carried out properly would be a fab story and a great watch
HOWEVER unfortunately these shows air on channels that want TRPs..fair point i understand they want viewership, no point showing a show that has no viewers but PH/creatives get too influenced by a channel to get these TRPs. They want their show to last hence inputting certain factors like family etc. to garner these views and if after all that the show is still doing crap the plug gets pulled

Unfortunately it does mean us fans who kind of know the original concept, want a new show, new concept gets disheartened and dissappointed.

An example, in the case of Saraswatichandra the book has a tragic ending, yet the show is not going that way now, indian TV rarely show tragic endings.

Also characters who are grey, not black and not white make them more realistic. So far alot of the characters in RR have more than the one layer we see, Rudra and Thakursa have showed plenty of different layers and they are grey and i love that as you never know what to expect and they seem real.

I think that if the channels weren't TRP hungry and actually gave the PH/CVs complete freedom to show what they originally came up with then maybe the mindset of TRP aunties could be changed and actually have a great story.

Let's see where RR takes us, i am not thinking too much into the future, i am just enjoying it as it is, but i do see how this show differs from alot, mainly characterisation as the lead hero isn't really the conventional hero. :D
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Getting a lot of interesting perspective frm every1 out here & thnx 4 keeping the discussion gng but my questions sadly r still unanswered.

For eg in all the shows y is the heroine always shown as OH SO INNOCENT VIRGIN. In real life u ll never find such girls & no its a myth tat village girls r innocent. In fact in my experience i ve seen tat its only the city girls who r a little naive while the village girls mature mentally at a v young age. Still in our shows frm Geet to IPKKND to RR the girl is shown as v innocent. Of course in RR they ve not gone overboard so prob i need 2 wait & watch.

My quest is this. I know most of the folks here r SI fans so they r rooting 4 her character Paro. BUT a big BUT if SI played Laila instead of Paro whom ll the fans root for? Why s'd only the PAROs ve a happily ever after. Dont the LAILAs deserve a happily ever after?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This show will pickup trp when finally both will fall in love and then the usual kitchen politics between rudra's maasi and paro will start and ironically this is when the serial will become bore.

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