Will Othello's Tragedy...be Rudra's Tragedy? - Page 4

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very interesting take and well thought out
Much Food for thought
now after the satyanash of another much beloved but then butchered laub story I am not holding my breathe
this PH is a bit iffy Have seen the damage done to another of their show
While the basic premise sounds absolutely riveting especially in the context of Napsters comments but then this is a soap based on TRP and the audience mood so I am going to play it by the ear and see how it unfolds
we have already seen some changes due to TRP the interrogation track got cut short so I doubt we will ever see that scene of Paro smiling triumphant and him pissed
Once again a really nice post
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff">What a great topic! Absolutely on board with the TM regarding the parallels of Othello and Desdemona.

To take it further, Desdemona, Othello's wife, marries him very very much against the wishes of her family and her society. She falls in love with him, again not because she wants to but because she is fascinated with him, having never seen a man like him in all her life.
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff">As he is the Moor, a hated group of people at that time, Desdemona marrying him makes her an enemy for her own family. Her father is shocked and throws her out of his house, for marrying a man who is hated and feared. She is helpless, and dependent on her Othello fully, for everything. He, also, is obsessed with her without ever really understanding even the first thing about her.

Desdemona and Paro have a lot of parallels--if she does marry Rudra, it will be against her village, and her family. She will be rejected, and have no one but Rudra, and will depend on him for her very life and existence. And he wont understand her, since she is an "auraat."

Unlike the independent, fiesty and clever Khushi Kumari Gupta, Sanaya is playing Paro as an abla nari (which is in keeping with Desdemona). D is known as one of the most tragic figures in Shakespeare because her innocence is so pure, it ends up killing her--literally becoming the reason for her death. She to the last moment does not UNDERSTAND his pain or his jealousy because she has no negative emotions like this inside her--she is too simple and too good for them.

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff">And finally, Paro is showing each and every sign of Desdemona--who was totally naive and innocent, who did not see evil that was right in front of her (Iago-Thakursa? ),and even after falling in love with her, she was not someone he even trusted after marriage, and she gives up everything for him, even her life.Desdemona life and her death is Othello's sole decision. Again, like Rudra right now.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff">Ultimately, Othello kills her because of his own past, and his own personal demons. Ultimately, SHE dies because he always believes that such a beautiful, sweet woman HAD to have something wrong with her or she would never have married him. Parallels to Rudra, all over the place bai-sa!</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff">Great discussion!</font>


👏 what a splendid comparison but will the makers have the guts gumption to execute the idea and most important will the damn TRP audience be able to digest such a layered soap
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well Saraswatichandra too was supposed to be based on a novel. But then again CVs looked at TRPs and BAM went the plot.
I doubt if RR will not succumb to this TRP rat race.
Great post though👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_gargi


I have read Othello and watched the English movie that was made. The character of Rudra is definitely inspired from Othello but not in every sense. The main essence of Rudra's character that resembles with Othello is that

Othello was a proud, confident and very courageous man and earned a high rank in his country..He was a General in the army and other than his work he knew nothing...That was the only part in which he excelled...Our Rudra has a similar work background and apart from his work, he definitely has no other interest except few Ahem Ahems with Laila😆 Yeah the CV's really got that background status checked on Rudra when linking to Othello. Laila is someone to spice up the TV screen, though some of the fumes are making some of us choke. 😆

Secondly, Othello never realized his love for Desdemona, until the lady proposed him after listening about the turmoil and pain he has gone through his entire life, right from his childhood and then the war times..She was memserized by the valour of the brave men and fell in love with him. Thus Othello reciprocated her love, but he was insecured since Desdemona was very beautiful who could have got any handsome, loving and caring men. Othello didn't knew the ways of courting and impressing a lady.

Rudra too is the same. He is harsh and tries to prove that he is heartless. The more he inflicts pain on Paro by his words, i really feel that its not Paro whom he tries to hurt, but he actually tries to reassure himself that he is very strong and indifferent towards a woman, whether be her a very beautiful woman. So when he will realize that she is innocent, he will accept the feelings he has for her, may be fall in love, but he will still be insecured as his love will be shadowed by roughness from outside. Thus any other man near Paro will definitely give him a complex. M so happy for this reason that Varun sa died, since he knew how to woo a woman, and Rudra would have cried like a puppy in seeing them in close proximity😆 Very nice link between Othello's and Rudra's thoughts. The insecurity and restlessness of Rudra due to Paro's beauty would be interesting to see unfold on our screens.

Lastly to answer your question in a clear way, I think CV's will not kill Paro but may be show that Rudra throws her out of his life thinking that she cheated on him. This can happen only if they want to take Rangrasiya in the Shakespearean play's direction. But then the CV's clearly mentioned that they don't want to make Othello but only want to recreate a character like Othello in Rudra...So we can definitely relax😃 This would a good direction to go as it keeps the Othello tragedy in mind but also hope for us views of a PaRud ending😳

Sorry to bore you with such a long analysis but I cold not stop myself as it was on Othello, one of my fav Plays by Shakespeare.😳 Not at all. I'm very glad you gave your take on things. Very insightful and good to think about when watching upcoming episodes of RR.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: meeyaa

CVs have said that they want to show how love triumphs over hatred...so i hope that Paro's love helps Rudra to heal and live a good life...


AHA!! Good point to remember this. CV's did say this was a story where Love will triumph over hatred. It'll be interesting and heart warming to watch how a gentle spoken Paro tames a very enraged and burdened Rudra.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ya i really hope CV's don't ruin the beautiful story due to TRP aunties😕...Let's hope for the best...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap


👏 what a splendid comparison but will the makers have the guts gumption to execute the idea and most important will the damn TRP audience be able to digest such a layered soap


Very true analysis about Desdemona...no one noticed this but yes Paro's character is very much like Desdemona...M sure she will fall in love with Rudra in a similar manner n all the villagers including her Mamisa will hate her. That will be bad..But it will be interesting to watch however😳


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Not only do Rudra and Othello resemble each other in their righteousness, their courage and bravery, the greatest thing that binds them are their own complexities, their insecurities. Othello is able to distrust Desdemona because he fundamentally insecure about himself. How can a girl like D love a dark moor like him?
In Rudra's case, he has imbibed his father's experience and therefore believes that not only is a disable bad tempered man unloved but that beautiful women are essentially untrustworthy. I

Interestingly, Iago's slander on D's character leads Othello to kill her. Rudra is already living through the effects of such slander on his mother's name. What if Paro, at some time faces Khushi-Shyam like situation. (The very idea sends chills because somehow I feel Rudra might be even less forgiving than he who must not be named)

Paro herself does not lack courage. Despite being in a bad situation she is standing upto Rudra. She has tried to run away. Will do so again, I think. Desdemona on the other hand was content to live vicariously. One of the most interesting scenes of the play was when she falls in love with Othello hearing about his tales of battle and adventure. Se does not (cannot) go there but she desires to. Paro on the other hand desires domesticity but is able to stand when she faces a tough situation. (I dont remember D taking a strong stand anywhere in the play. but then, i might be forgetting somethings).Till now, she has not given up. So Paro seems to be a stronger character than Desdemona. We still have to see more nuances in her characterization, but much as I love Rudra, I am waiting for Paro's character to unfold, layer by layer.

Well, those were my two cents to this interesting discussion. Please comment.
Edited by vann - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39
Ashish has already done this before. There he was made to believe by his bhabi that his wife is betraying him.
As I don't watch RR but know enough from my friends, I am guessing his aunt or on-off lover or even his long lost mother, heck even his father who hates beautiful woman, anyone one of them would start nurture and stroke his long held belief - that a beautiful woman cannot be trusted/be faithful.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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While I heart Othello, I can stand the inevitable tragic end because it's a short play.
This is a TV series and I would prefer to see Paro not to go the Desdemona way. I would prefer Paro to stand up to Rudra and people like his father and ultimately prove that she is as innocent as she is beautiful as well as strong. I know she's likely to face abuse and such before that happens, but my fragile heart couldn't stand the thought of her dying...


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