And what about Khanak's dreams?

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-SYS-

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Posted: 14 years ago

Okay so we all are very happy with the new track-the conflict between parents and spoilt child, the reasons for Shaan's vela-ness, the sibling angle, Shaan's realization and quest for independence are a few of the things waiting to be explored.

And throughout this all we shall get Khanak being a supportive wife once again-while probably being conflicted to some extent due to respect for her parents-in-law.

However I wonder if this is all that Khanak is going to get to do now?

Be a supportive wife? She did that marvellously when Rock On started.She is going to be back to it again?

Is this the only life that we girls face after marriage?Are we supposed to be reduced to being a support system for our husbands and perpetuate their dreams? Are our lives supposed to revolve around their lives, their needs, their wishes?

Or is this true only for wives that hail from a village?Because of course, God forbid, they wouldn't happen to have dreams or aspirations of their own apart from ones that lead to glorification of their husbands?

I miss the Khanak that struggled to get the pronunciation of one word right, who stayed up late and unknown to anyone, tried to learn the alphabet by the pool on her own. The Khanak who chose to speak in the little English she had learnt, even if it wasn't perfect, in front of a crowd of high-class businessmen when asked by her husband, because she was proud of her accomplishment and wanted her husband and in-laws to be proud of her too.

Where has that Khanak disappeared?

In short, while Shantanu's realization and growth has been a long time coming, I would like it if it made Khanak remember her own dreams and ambitions too. If she, while supporting her husband with his goals and encouraging him, remembered her own desires too and decided to pursue them.Or at least get started towards that journey.

And this I feel is that best time to start the journey because:

A)Khanak can remember her own dreams and wishes while supporting Shaan in his

b)She would want to help Shaan support them when they separate from the family-now she can't go very far in that unless she has an education, right? So maybe this will intensify her desire to study and carve her own niche in the world?

Maybe this is my feminist sensibilities protesting but I want this track to revolve around ShaNak going after their dreams and supporting each other.

Over to you guys😊

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Urooj

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Posted: 14 years ago

Namoona: u and ur feminist! u need to hold up a sign that says "Hi I am Yumna...and I'm a feminist! Want to convert?" lmfao sorry jokes apart...here's my take on this.

believe it or not I don't agree with you (wait u wud believe it) and the reason is not because I am bias to Shaan but its because I firmly believe that woman are meant to be stronger and that is a complement and the biggest thing to have. I have seen many woman who are only strong, physically but a moment of hurt, they break down easily. They are like the female versions of men. The biggest thing about us is that we are the support system of a family. believe it or not we are the only one who hold the whole household together. when u get married u will know it too. I see my mom every day and she struggles with it too but because of her my house is intact warna at this time we wud've been long time broken. It is just something that the God has gifted us and not men and that is why we always stand out. U prolly know the story of how Allah said Mom's name 3 times and then the Dad's name when a person asked Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)? Well why do u think that is? I know what u are going to say next and I am about to get to that too.

Khanak will emerge as a winner in the end! Mark my words on that!

Now you asked about Khanak's dreams and aspirations...I don't think we will really see full dreams of hers, maybe it is the next track (i hope CV's listen) and I want them to show it too. But I think this is better that way. why? well how is Khanak going to explore her dreams when Shaan is not able to support her? I mean she needs Shaan's support in order to do that na? so how will she do it? I mean think about it, if Shaan is not able to earn for her then how will she go about learning and living? marriage is about compromising. U have to give a little and take a little. Right now it is Shaan's turn and then Khanak's turn will come. Who knows that as they go along, Khanak learn to support Shaan at home and Shaan will fully support her!

I mean we know that Shaan wud never stop her and in fact he wud encourage her soon and I think that would be our next track.

But right now, it is Shaan's turn to support her and them, Khanak's turn to help him.

I agree she needs to come out but this is not the time to do that!

Sorry Yums I don't fully agree with you! 😳

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sweetsute

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Posted: 14 years ago

Yummyyy

Good POV

but what i feel is, dis is just the beginning of the track. We have been demanding for a serious and responsible Shan and now we are on the verge of getting it.

Abt Khanak realising her dreams, i m sure, at one point, d CVs will touch it even, may be after dis track , wen Shan almost settles in life. What we need to do , is have patience and just go on wid the flow.

Now, regarding what u said abt a wife being just a support system, well dis is not d point, the actual thing is in a relation, wen one is in trouble and sulking, oder has to be a support system.

Wen she was sulking for not having any knowledge abt English, he supported her by teaching her.

Wen he was sulking for being confused abt choosing a career in life, she supported him by making him realise abt his goal.

And in a married couple, normally it is the guy , who has got to have a career, a job. Abt a wife, having a career, it is her own personal wish, not a compulsion.

So, in dis case, wouldn't it be odd to show Shan sitting idle at home, doing nothing and his wife pursuing her dreams and building up her career. What i want to say is , let dem cover up dis track, let Shan atleast make a impact in his field.

After dat,. we may get to c Khanak pursuing her dreams and den Shan being her support system.

And wen u are mentioning abt d Khanak who struggled to get just one pronounciation right, so don forget she is d same Khanak, who despite hating the man who married her, never hesitated to carry out her duties as a wife, as a dutiful daughter in law.

Khanak is being shown as a dutiful wife, yet a strong woman who will never allow her husband to choose a wrong path.
Shan is nothing w/o Khanak and Khanak is nothing w/o Shan, both complete each oder

RBO is Shanak and Shanak is RBO!!

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Urooj

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Posted: 14 years ago

@ namoona:

u know...there is something that many people didn't notice and that is how Khanak had learned few words and what not in between that she never did when Paathshala started so maybe he did teach her in between but we never saw it...

neways who knows but I think we will get that track soon with Shanak leaving the house..it is bound to happen!

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.Dilwale.

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Posted: 14 years ago

ok, just got up from a game of ludo with my cousins and while waiting for Fajr decided to scan the forum. have logged in from my phone, so won't be able to respond in detail to this wonderful post by yummy and i don't think that i even need to. i agree with each and every word of her's.

@rooj

what yummy said is thought provoking and justified. plz yaar don't taint it by branding it feminist. if what yummy demands for khanak is a sign of feminism tu phir are me, you and every girl here a feminist just because we refuse to let go of her dreams or aspire to have existences separate than our husbands?

i completely understand this track is mainly about shaan and i have no plans to raise a hoopla about it and why should i? everyone wanted it and we are getting it and that is very good. but i think what yummy and i are trying to say is that maybe both shaan and khanak could develop and flourish side by side. khanak is not your usual hindi soap heroine, so why should she behave like one now?

i really hope that after shaan gets on track with regard to his career, the CVs have something in store for khanak as well. and there is no secret agenda here trust me lol.

goodnight girls! damn mobile internet is expensive!

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-SYS-

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: rooj-i

Namoona: u and ur feminist! u need to hold up a sign that says "Hi I am Yumna...and I'm a feminist! Want to convert?" lmfao sorry jokes apart...here's my take on this.
Bleh.And tell me what's wrong in being one? :p

believe it or not I don't agree with you (wait u wud believe it) [I totally expected this so duh I believe it *rolls eyes*]
and the reason is not because I am bias to Shaan[Really??Sacheee?Hahaha.Loserrr] but its because I firmly believe that woman are meant to be stronger and that is a complement and the biggest thing to have. I have seen many woman who are only strong, physically but a moment of hurt, they break down easily. They are like the female versions of men. The biggest thing about us is that we are the support system of a family. believe it or not we are the only one who hold the whole household together. when u get married u will know it too. I see my mom every day and she struggles with it too but because of her my house is intact warna at this time we wud've been long time broken. It is just something that the God has gifted us and not men and that is why we always stand out. U prolly know the story of how Allah said Mom's name 3 times and then the Dad's name when a person asked Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)? Well why do u think that is? I know what u are going to say next and I am about to get to that too.
Okay in case anyone misunderstood, this post was not in ANY way meant to look down upon housewives or women that don't work.My own mother is a housewife and I have nothing but the greatest respect for them.I know how hard it is nurturing a family, making it move forward, keeping it balanced, especially with kids like me BUT do ShaNak have a baby yet?Now is the time that Khanak can take out time for herself too rather than take it out later when they have kids etc.THIS is the time she starts out on that journey
Khanak will emerge as a winner in the end! Mark my words on that!

Now you asked about Khanak's dreams and aspirations...I don't think we will really see full dreams of hers, maybe it is the next track (i hope CV's listen) and I want them to show it too. But I think this is better that way. why? well how is Khanak going to explore her dreams when Shaan is not able to support her? I mean she needs Shaan's support in order to do that na? so how will she do it? I mean think about it, if Shaan is not able to earn for her then how will she go about learning and living? marriage is about compromising. U have to give a little and take a little. Right now it is Shaan's turn and then Khanak's turn will come. Who knows that as they go along, Khanak learn to support Shaan at home and Shaan will fully support her!
Exactly rooj-Marriage is about compromising. Why can't they both support each other simultaneously? Why can't Shaan, while getting a start on his career, help her to realize hers too?This is how it happens in real life.No woman would put her own life on hold waiting for her husband to kickstart his career so she can have 'her turn' .I don't mind Khanak being the support-in fact I LOVE that about her.But I want her to be more than just that.
I mean we know that Shaan wud never stop her and in fact he wud encourage her soon and I think that would be our next track.
Uff.I know Shaan would never stop her.Veli!
But right now, it is Shaan's turn to support her and them, Khanak's turn to help him.

I agree she needs to come out but this is not the time to do that!

Sorry Yums I don't fully agree with you! 😳 Do you ever??:p

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-SYS-

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: sweetsute
Yummyyy

Good POV Thanks😳

but what i feel is, dis is just the beginning of the track. We have been demanding for a serious and responsible Shan and now we are on the verge of getting it.
Yeah I know man.I am willing to wait.But it wouldn't hurt to put this thought out there abhi se, would it??
Abt Khanak realising her dreams, i m sure, at one point, d CVs will touch it even, may be after dis track , wen Shan almost settles in life. What we need to do , is have patience and just go on wid the flow.

Now, regarding what u said abt a wife being just a support system, well dis is not d point, the actual thing is in a relation, wen one is in trouble and sulking, oder has to be a support system.
I completely agree.And we saw that before in Rock On.I don't mind Khanak supporting and helping Shaan again.In fact the budthal totally needs her to do it😆 BUT at the same time, while helping her husband with his dreams and all I think that at least she should start remembering her own dreams too.I don't mind waiting for them to show her progress but realization tou start ho na?And this is the best time for her to start realizing.Maybe she will want to help her husband in supporting them when they separate but make her realize that there is only that much she can do with no degree??
Wen she was sulking for not having any knowledge abt English, he supported her by teaching her.

Wen he was sulking for being confused abt choosing a career in life, she supported him by making him realise abt his goal.
And in a married couple, normally it is the guy , who has got to have a career, a job. Abt a wife, having a career, it is her own personal wish, not a compulsion.

So, in dis case, wouldn't it be odd to show Shan sitting idle at home, doing nothing and his wife pursuing her dreams and building up her career. What i want to say is , let dem cover up dis track, let Shan atleast make a impact in his field.
BTW I didn't necessarily mean a career when I said this.She needs to get started off first...Education tou aye pehle
After dat,. we may get to c Khanak pursuing her dreams and den Shan being her support system.

And wen u are mentioning abt d Khanak who struggled to get just one pronounciation right, so don forget she is d same Khanak, who despite hating the man who married her, never hesitated to carry out her duties as a wife, as a dutiful daughter in law.
We all love her carrying out her duties as a wife and DIL but that is not exclusive of having one's own aims in life.Have we not seen, in fact have we not got on this very forum, capable women who work, look after their families, are DILs and wives and juggle it all superbly?

Khanak is being shown as a dutiful wife, yet a strong woman who will never allow her husband to choose a wrong path.
Shan is nothing w/o Khanak and Khanak is nothing w/o Shan, both complete each oder

RBO is Shanak and Shanak is RBO!!
Did I say otherwise?In fact issi liye tou I want ShaNak realizing their dreams together😃

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Urooj

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: zennn

@rooj

what yummy said is thought provoking and justified. plz yaar don't taint it by branding it feminist. if what yummy demands for khanak is a sign of feminism tu phir are me, you and every girl here a feminist just because we refuse to let go of her dreams or aspire to have existences separate than our husbands?

oye! I am only joking with her! she understands me...if she didn't she wud tell me! I am a feminist too at some aspects...we all are...but plz huh don't think i meant it...its a joke...take it as one! let namoona stand up for it!

i completely understand this track is mainly about shaan and i have no plans to raise a hoopla about it and why should i? everyone wanted it and we are getting it and that is very good. but i think what yummy and i are trying to say is that maybe both shaan and khanak could develop and flourish side by side. khanak is not your usual hindi soap heroine, so why should she behave like one now?

When did I say that it is not about her either? u do realize that I said she is the winner and will emerge as one! U guys tend to forget how important a woman's support is. I mean w/o us men are just dheela and nothing! There that is a feminist idea! think about it! U know they haven't even started the whole track yet and here we are discussing on who shud be there...i said it before and ill say it again: all the leads are always connected and even now they will be. Both Shanak will support each other. honestly Zenny stop taking pangas with me! u just hate me don't u!

i really hope that after shaan gets on track with regard to his career, the CVs have something in store for khanak as well. and there is no secret agenda here trust me lol.

I think they will start in the track itself. Imagine Khanak trying to support shaan too by looking for work but she can't work coz of lack of education and Shaan comes and help her...how wonderful wud that be?

goodnight girls! damn mobile internet is expensive!

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Bravehearts

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Posted: 14 years ago

hey bhggu ab muje pakka yakin ho gay hain taht u guyz fully mad...this isuue now nt good timeing

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Urooj

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: -SYS-

Bleh.And tell me what's wrong in being one? :p coz of this joke..ur twinoo is pointing fingers at me...tell her to stop re...honestly im a feminist too to some extent...its a joke take it as one!

[I totally expected this so duh I believe it *rolls eyes*] naah I didn't know that *rolls eyes too*
[Really??Sacheee?Hahaha.Loserrr] don't go all zenny on me! I'll kill u! sab ke sab is duffer! I made a paathshala post once and no one noticed! hadh hai! be a Khanak lover even then im asked questions and be a shaan lover even then im asked questions. I mean seriously re!
Okay in case anyone misunderstood, this post was not in ANY way meant to look down upon housewives or women that don't work.My own mother is a housewife and I have nothing but the greatest respect for them.I know how hard it is nurturing a family, making it move forward, keeping it balanced, especially with kids like me BUT do ShaNak have a baby yet?Now is the time that Khanak can take out time for herself too rather than take it out later when they have kids etc.THIS is the time she starts out on that journey actually u did ask that and hence I replied...u did ask why we are meant to be support system always and thats why i replied. I never said she shudn't work...its just that if they leave the house then how is this the time to start? i mean no money, or a roof so how? sot he first thing is Shaan needs to make a man and hubby first and in that time if this track comes along Im all up for it! in fact i support it...i just told zenny to imagine how it would be if Khanak was asked to support Shaan with money and she cant and viola comes paathshala time!

Exactly rooj-Marriage is about compromising. Why can't they both support each other simultaneously? Why can't Shaan, while getting a start on his career, help her to realize hers too?This is how it happens in real life.No woman would put her own life on hold waiting for her husband to kickstart his career so she can have 'her turn' .I don't mind Khanak being the support-in fact I LOVE that about her.But I want her to be more than just that.
actually Namoona when u have to start from a scratch, which is what is going to happen here, then often women are asked to put their life on hold. I mean my mom did that. even if she was single she did that. She had to put her life on hold for a bit till my dad made enough to support her and then he encouraged and helped her do her own thing. it was unfortunate that i was born right away warna my mom wud've gone and workd with my dad. the only difference is that my mom was educated but Khanak is not. She can be with the help of Shaan but when will that happen? the only it will happen is after Shaan is able to support her and send her to school if not then he needs to have time to do it. it's not an easy thing when u have to start things from scratch especially when only one of the spouse is educated and the other is yet to learn.

Uff.I know Shaan would never stop her.Veli!
Do you ever??:p

Nope never! :P

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