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Posted: 17 years ago
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I FOUND debina more beautiful in the abduction promos ,but i am not happy with debina's expressions these days , can y imagine jatau fell wounded on the floor & sitaji had no expressions on her face ,

i wonder how ravan in reality wud hv lifted sitaji 😭,i mean sagr's shud hv shown tht ravan dragging sitaji by getting caught hold of her wrist tightly n like tht , did not like he put sitaji on his shoulders 😡



iti uktvaa maithiliim vaakyam priya arhaam priya vaadiniim
abhigamya suduSTa aatmaa raakshasaH kaama mohitaH
jagraaha raavaNaH siitaam budhaH khe rohiNiim iva

Aranya kand chapt 49

The evil minded Ravan,who was maddened with lust grabbed Sita just as the planet Budha/mercury holds the (star/nakshatra) RohiNi

read the next verse:

vaamena siitaam padmaakSiim muurdhajeSu kareNa saH
uurvoH tu dakSiNena eva parijagraaha paaNinaa

With his left hand Ravan grabbed Sita's nape (neck, back of her plait) and with right he grabbed her thighs,thus lifting the lotus eyed Sita.
Valmiki Ramayan aranya kand chapt 49 verse 17

Experts comment that Sita might have fainted, because the way Ravan lifts her,as stated above; is easier when somebody is in a sleeping position.

Valmiki's Sita is human so Ravan touched her,nothing happens by mere touching.....If any one is at fault,its the sinner and never the victim. whatever Valmiki has written is true,yet why are people not able to accept bitter truths??
If Sita was touched, against her will,that does not become any sin on her part.

Writers like Kamban also did not like Sita being touched by Ravan thats why in his Ramayan(in Tamil) he makes Ravan cleave the earth itself ,when Sita faints.

I too agree with u nothing happens by mere touching. A woman does not become impure if she is touched forcefully against her will. If it is so then I think no women in this world will be ever able to maintain her purity. Sita was frightened because because Ravan takes his Dashanan -Dasgreev rup. Raavan also holds her hair. Our Sriptures says that holding hairs of a woman to show force causes ruination, destruction of the person doing so. By touching her hairs Raavan invited his death.

I didnt like the concept of Laxman Rekha. there was no laxman Rekha in Valmiki Ramayan. Why it was added by later writers? Its really insulting. Sita never crossed any Laxman rekha or maryada rekha

Edited by coolpurvi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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They shoud properly show Ram crying for jatayu n doing his last rites. Jataayu sacriface was selfless. When he sacrificed his life for saving Sita he didn't desired anything in return.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Sagars are going too fast. I hope they slow down a bit and concentrate on details. They never showed Jatayu meeting Ram and Sita before(as per the original story) and suddenly they show Sita recognising Jatayu. Akhilendra Mishra is a very good pick for the villain. He is as good as if not better than the older Ravan(Arvind Trivedi).
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Posted: 17 years ago
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@ COLPURVI & Nidhz !!!!! oh!! i wrote that way becaz i thought sitaji was goddess lakshmi's avatar ,so ravan cudn't touch her that way ,& as ravan was also cursed by kubare that he cannot touch any woman agains't her wishes .

purvi !! thanks for telling that there was no mention of lakshman rekha in valmiki ramayan ,but as prem sagar himself said that the pure version of valmiki ramayan is not available today in his interviews ,distorted version is available ,so i guess valmiki wud hv mentioned lakshman rekha concept ,might b later edited or what.

but we can also not diapprove the authenticity of RAM CHARIT MANAS by TULSIDAS as TULSIDAS wrote RAMCHARITMANAS under the guidance of HANUMANJI & as lord shiva asked TULSIDAS JI to write valmiki ramayan in awadhi language & lord HANUMAN helped tulsidas ji in writing RAMAYAN as i saw that in the show JAI HANUMAN (when it came on DD1) still this show comes on sony tv .TULSIDASJI himself met LORD RAMA & even HANUMANJI used to sing RAMCHARITMANAS & praised TULSIDASJI for doing a great job.

SO IF TULSIDASJI mentioned LAKSHMAN REKHA in RAMCHARITMANAS then wud be true !!!!

the show JAI HANUMAN which now a days comes on sony tv was made under the guidance of some great ramayan research team ,i don't remember the name of tht person but he is phd in RAMAYAN ,he did great research ,i will let u his name .

in jai hanuman also lakshman rekha was shown,still sita abduction is gonna be shown in jai hanuman & i will def. let u all know how sita abduction is being shown in jai hanuman !!! i think sanjay khan the producer of jai hanuman paid more attention on detailing than these sagar ppl.

by the way yesterday in jai hanuman the story of manthara was shown in which she was cursed by a sage to become a hunch backed woman in her next birth & manthra was a damsel .

the actor who played kaushlaya in ramayan ,was manthara in her apsara form.

Edited by sita11 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: leonardoaugust8

Sagars are going too fast. I hope they slow down a bit and concentrate on details. They never showed Jatayu meeting Ram and Sita before(as per the original story) and suddenly they show Sita recognising Jatayu. Akhilendra Mishra is a very good pick for the villain. He is as good as if not better than the older Ravan(Arvind Trivedi).

sagar's NOT SHOWING ANY DETAILS !!!!

what's wrong with them

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Posted: 17 years ago
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thanks sita
i think yday episode was good
though debina was too cold in her response when jatayu gets injured trying to protect her
same her expression didnt change much when she discovers sage is none other than ravan
akhilendra as ravan was awesome honestly
abt lakshman rekha i dont know scriptures much but it was there in prev ramayan and by that rekha it means a woman has to stay in her line
once she crosses that she cant come back
maryada ki line
thas what ravan also tells sita u crossed ur maryada
it works in general normal life too
u hv to have that maryaada
and it was shown perfectly
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Laxman rekha concept is very insulting.

Valmiki wrote Ramayana in a very special style(Anubhuti metre). Each verses of ramayana r wriiten in same metre containg same no of syllabus. So there is very less chance of its getting changed.

If there was any laxman rekha then why Ram rebuked Laxman for leaving Sita alone. Ram loved laxman more than his life. Balkanda says that he didn't use to eat anything without Laxman. For the first time he rebuked him. This shows that there was no laxman rekha.

Raavan touched Sita in Panchavati only to abduct her. He keep tried to bait her with chief queen hood so that he could make her to surrender before himself.he tried to change her mind n he said that he will provide her all luxaries of the three world. By making Sita surrender before himself he wanted to take appropriate revenge of Surpanakha's insult. He wanted to insult Ram that why he didn't ude force.

But Sita was a very strong lady she scornfully rejected all his proposals. She was a staunch husband devotee n a lady of strong determination. Raavan miserably failed in all his attempts to change her mind.

Edited by coolpurvi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

Laxman rekha concept is very insulting.

Valmiki wrote Ramayana in a very special style(Anubhuti metre). Each verses of ramayana r wriiten in same metre containg same no of syllabus. So there is very less chance of its getting changed.

If there was any laxman rekha then why Ram rebuked Laxman for leaving Sita alone. Ram loved laxman more than his life. Balkanda says that he didn't use to eat anything without Laxman. For the first time he rebuked him. This shows that there was no laxman rekha.

Raavan touched Sita in Panchavati only to abduct her. He keep tried to bait her with chief queen hood so that he could make her to surrender before himself.he tried to change her mind n he said that he will provide her all luxaries of the three world. By making Sita surrender before himself he wanted to take appropriate revenge of Surpanakha's insult. He wanted to insult Ram that why he didn't ude force.

But Sita was a very strong lady she scornfully rejected all his proposals. She was a staunch husband devotee n a lady of strong determination. Raavan miserably failed in all his attempts to change her mind.

thanks !! but as prem sagar said tht distorted version of valmiki ramayan is available today as shruti posted on article of interview of prem sagar .

but what do u hv to say abt tulsidas ji who wrote ramcharitmanas under the guidance of hanuman ji ???

i will def let u all know what was exactly shown in jai hanuman show as tht show was made under the guidance of ppl who did great research in ramayan .

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: chatterbox

thanks sita
i think yday episode was good
though debina was too cold in her response when jatayu gets injured trying to protect her
same her expression didnt change much when she discovers sage is none other than ravan

akhilendra as ravan was awesome honestly
abt lakshman rekha i dont know scriptures much but it was there in prev ramayan and by that rekha it means a woman has to stay in her line
once she crosses that she cant come back
maryada ki line
thas what ravan also tells sita u crossed ur maryada
it works in general normal life too
u hv to have that maryaada
and it was shown perfectly

I DON'T KNOW WHY debina's expressions r not coming properly ,those were some very precious scenes of sitaji lamenting as an imp twist came in her life after tht ,plz!!!!! debina don't spoil the whole charm of separation scenes of ram-sita.

when we as viewers cud notice tht debina was not acting from her heart,then why can't these sagar's .

wonder how debina is gonna act in her weeping scenes in further episodes

Edited by sita11 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Sitaji was good but not the best , Ramji n laxmanji performed well. Yeah even i dont like sitaji on ravans shoulder, even Ramji never touched Sitaji in the show and see this ravan , but its ok.

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