Versions of Uttarkand - Page 4

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Khalrika

Does Bhavabhuti have Mrs Amazon forcing the issue and going into exile herself, barefoot and in saffron? Which of your pioneering discoveries has that?

Incidentally, great job uncovering these wacko versions by psychadelic authors - at least I can stop being shocked at whatever they show going forward. Also, next time, can you check if any of them are alive and to be found in Telegraph Avenue?😉🤢

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Thanks Chandra bhaiya for the 11000 reference n thanks Vibs n Khalrika difor postingthe scenec fromBhavbhuti U-RC.

I too believe that Uttarkand is by Valmiki only.

P V Vartak in his book Vastav Ramayan says that Uttarkand is very much a part of Valmiki's Ramayan and that its included as an appendix to the other six Kandas. Somehow scholars are dividedon this issue.

Ananya

I too believe that, but I do doubt/disbelieve the following in the Uttarkand:

1. Brahma asking Rama to have Kush/Luv recite the balance of the Uttarkand following Sita's passing;
2. Sumantra narrating to Lakshman the future of what's to come;
3. Shambhuka (particularly Narad's references to agricultural practices promoting adharma)
4. The talking Kulapati of Kalanjar dog

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Ananya

I too believe that, but I do doubt/disbelieve the following in the Uttarkand:

Brahma asking Rama to have Kush/Luv recite the balance of the Uttarkand following Sita's passing; Sumantra narrating to Lakshman the future of what's to come; Shambhuka (particularly Narad's references to agricultural practices promoting adharma)
1. The talking Kulapati of Kalanjar dog

Originally posted by: Khalrika

I should start calling Tuesdays Ramayan days. Every tuesday I get involved in some Ramayana discussion that the day is spent on Ramayan. Good thing I work from home and I am on flex time. I guess I have Hanumanji's blessing. Isn't Tuesday his day?

Anyway, I continued reading the analysis. According to Dr. Raghavan the changes made to Valmiki Ramayan happened throughout the eras in Sanskrit Literature. He also gives many examples of fragments from lost Ramayan plays in Sanskrit. He says that many authors felt they were improving the image of Rama and Sita by doing that. From the way he writes, Dr. Raghavan is not too impressed with the changes even though he admires the Sanskrit poetry, the drama techniques, and such stuff of the authors.

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

Agree with you here Khalrika.😊 The authors thought they were improving Ram's image by changing the story, but there's no greater image of Shri Ram than what is written by Mahamuni Valmiki and Tulsidasji. Valmiki Ramayan and Ramcharitmanas are my favorite versions of Ramayan and though it is interesting to learn about other versions, I give first and foremost importance to the Ramayans written by Valmikiji and Tulsidasji.

It's great that you have so many Ramayan books at home. I wish I had as much knowledge about these versions as you.😳

Originally posted by: Khalrika

Many of the books I inherited from my grandparents who were Ram Bakths. Some I bought to expand the collection. OMG! I am no expert. In fact, I never looked into the books until a few days ago 😆 😆 😆 when I wanted to know if Sagars were making up their own story or if they were taking their cue from other versions. Good thing because I am learning a lot about the Ramayan traditions in all of Asia and not just India.