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Khalrika

@Khalrika

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Posted: 16 years ago

#471

Aha! They r going to show the story from Ananda Ramayan where L-K go to Ayodhya and get the kamal for Sita's worship. The flower is supposedly found only in Ramji's garden. When they r getting the Kamal they meet Ramji there. Only they do not know it is their dad. Lav actually berates Ramji for abandoning Sita.

The 2 Gollu-Mollu kids L-K are so cute. They have done a good job as L-K despite the horrible storyline of Swarna Kamal.

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ananyacool

@ananyacool

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Posted: 16 years ago

#472

@ Khalrika di: Thanx for the info . Does Anand Ramayan has Sitaji doing a "Sanyog karan vrat" or something like that as shown in the serial?

I have never heard of this kind of vrat ,Is there something like it?

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

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Posted: 16 years ago

#473

Originally posted by: ananyacool
@ Khalrika di: Thanx for the info . Does Anand Ramayan has Sitaji doing a "Sanyog karan vrat" or something like that as shown in the serial?
I have never heard of this kind of vrat ,Is there something like it?

Yes, Valmiki teaches her the method to do the pooja to reunite with Ramji. This is the episode they r gonna show. I really do want to see the confrontation between Lav and Ramji in Ayodhya. The 2 brothers sneak into the garden in the palace which has a pond with the special lotuses.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 16 years ago

#474

Oh, Khalrika, thanks for giving us the heads up on this. One good thing about it - at least we may be spared the Ashwamedha battles☯️

So does Ananda Ramayan focus on K-L's florist activity? One good thing - since this is stated to end on the 26th June, we will hopefully be spared another battery of tests in Ayodhya.

Do they have to do anything to get this flower🤢 (you know me and flowers 😆) or does Rama simply give it to them?

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Same108

@Same108

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Posted: 16 years ago

#475

I always wanted to take a look at Ayodhya's garden! I saw Janakpur's pushp vatik, but never saw Ayodhya's. Did you notice Sagars are showing ony streets and palace?

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

Voyager

Posted: 16 years ago

#476

Hey, I found the information for the need of a wife by a married man's side to do religious rites in one of my books.

Dharma shastras state that the effigy of the wife be made in metal or sacred grass for doing reigious rites if the wife is unable to participate in the religious rites for whatever reason.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 16 years ago

#477

Khalrika

In the previous serial, Vashishtha listed a clay statue for a brahmin, a golden statue for a kshatriya, a silver statue for a vaisya and a copper statue for a shudra. Is that also something you noticed - I'm curious about the origin of that particular info

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t-_p8qYM0A[/YOUTUBE]

See 6:50 onwards - this depiction was as twisted as the current one

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

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Posted: 16 years ago

#478

Originally posted by: Chandraketu
Khalrika
In the previous serial, Vashishtha listed a clay statue for a brahmin, a golden statue for a kshatriya, a silver statue for a vaisya and a copper statue for a shudra. Is that also something you noticed - I'm curious about the origin of that particular info
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t-_p8qYM0A[/YOUTUBE]
See 6:50 onwards - this depiction was as twisted as the current one

No, this info was not mentioned. It just said they can use metal or sacred grass.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 16 years ago

#479

Thanks

Incidentally, you just made next weeks episodes much more interesting, if our flower-boys are going to Ayodhya and will meet Rama in the process in a context other than war.

Incidentally, does Ananda Ramayan have either/both

1. Any battles between K-L vs Ayodhya

2. Them singing in Rama's court?

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

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Posted: 16 years ago

#480

Originally posted by: Chandraketu
Oh, Khalrika, thanks for giving us the heads up on this. One good thing about it - at least we may be spared the Ashwamedha battles☯️
So does Ananda Ramayan focus on K-L's florist activity? One good thing - since this is stated to end on the 26th June, we will hopefully be spared another battery of tests in Ayodhya.
Do they have to do anything to get this flower🤢 (you know me and flowers 😆) or does Rama simply give it to them?

The Asvamedha battles happen in Ananda Ramayan. The flower episode happens during the yagna. Sita needs to do the Vrat pooja with these special lotuses that grow in abundance in the pond in Ramji's garden. She sends her sons. Ananda Ramayan states that it is Lava who is the bolder of the two brothers. Lava goes every day to the pond to get the lotuses because the flowers have to be fresh for the pooja. It is only on the eighth day the guards start to suspect that the flowers are disappearing from the pond. They try to capture Lava and take him to Ramji but Lava's arrow flings the guards and they fall in Ramji's yagna spot.

On the 9th day, Ramji's sena lie in wait for Lava to appear. They beseige Lava. Lava then derides Ramji for the banishment of Sita. Rama hears of Lava's words from his guards. He also comes to know that this young lad is a disciple of Valmiki. Lava beats the guards this time around also and escapes. The guards report this to Ramji. Rama then sends for Valmiki. Now, all this is from Ananda Ramayan.

During this time of the flower episode the yagna is going on simultaneously and the horse with Satrughan following it has started to roam. Valmiki comes to the yagna place as he is summoned by Ramji after the flower episode. Valmiki comes with the two boys and with Sita in a palanquin. Valmiki asks the boys to sing the epic in the surrounding areas. Rama learns of the singing and asks them to come to the yagna place and sing for him. When Lava comes to sing the guards identify Lava as the thief of the lotuses. When Ramji questions Lava, he just says that it was a strategy to meet Ramji. 😕

Lava is let go. Kusa is taking a bath in the Ganges when Lava sees the sacrificial horse roaming around. Lava defeats Shatrughna, Lakshman, and others with all the astras they get from Valmiki. According to Ananda Ramayan, Rama fights with Lava too but one is not able to defeat the other. Rama sends for Valmiki again to ask him about the boys. Valmiki tells him that he will reveal the information the next day.

The next day, the boys are asked to sing the Ramayan in the yagna place. It is then Ramji comes to know that the boys are his sons. Then Sita comes and she is asked to take the Oath of Chastity. She does and goes into the earth. Ramji gets very angry and asks the earth mother to give Sita back or he would destroy the planet. The Earth goddess gives Sita back to Ramji. Ramji takes her back and they live as husband and wife for a long time together. They also rule Ayodhya together.

Strictly IMHO, I like the Ananda Ramayan ending where they stay together after the oath. I wonder if the Sagars will show that or the Valmiki version for the end. In Ananda Ramayan, the story of Ram continues with various episodes until the sons of all the brothers are grown, get married, and become adults. Sumantra and the mata pass away also. In the end Rama, his brothers, and Sita crown all the children kings of various countries and then leave the prithvi lok for Vaikunt.

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