Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan II - Page 4

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Originally posted by: Chandraketu

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Thanks Vibs for everything you've found out and posted.

Sambala I read somewhere is a village in UP. So it would become the capital of the world (meaning just India, or the world in whichever year it is?)

So this assumes that all present day governments/state setups will be destroyed, and there will be a reversion to a monarchy? I think that's cool! Also, will Padma, unlike Sita, have a happy life, or will she have to suffer. Please tell me that unlike Rama, Kalki doesn't have any pre-existing curses following him? And hopefully doesn't incur any between now and then. And hopefully, Kalki is never separated from Padma.

One other question. Normally, when Vishnu had a military objective of destroying evil, he assumed kshatriya roles, as in Rama and Krishna, although Parashurama was a notable exception since kshatriyas themselves were the problem. But in this case, Kalki has a clear military mission like Rama, and given that, why is he coming as a Brahmin rather than a Kshatriya? (Please don't be offended by the question - it's just that since it's not a post-caste setup (or is it?), wouldn't a kshatriya role be more appropriate, like in Rama or Krishna)?

Rimi

1. In Valmiki's version, yes. There is no mention of Vandevi, and when Valmiki enters his ashram with Sita (7-49-??), Seeing Seetaa with Muni, Muni wives said - "Hey Maharshi, We welcome you and tell us what can we do for you?" Maharshi Vaalmeeki said - "She is the sinless daughter of Raajaa Janak and is Pativrataa. You take care of Her and give Her company with respects." I don't have the exact verse here as I do a little later, since the source I refer hasn't yet gone beyond Yudhyakand. I do hope they get to it soon.

2. I keep forgetting, and besides, I'm not familiar with how far places in UP are from each other. Maybe Ananya can answer this one.

3. Yes, they did meet Valmiki in 2-56-16:18

Originally posted by: "Valmikiramayan.net"

iti siitaa ca raamashcha lakshmaNashcha kR^itaaJNjaliH |
abhigamyaashramam sarve vaalmiiki mabhivaadayan || 2-56-16

16. iti= after deciding thus; siitaa cha= Seetha; raamashcha= Rama; lakshhmaNashcha= and Lakshmana; sarve= all; kR^itaaJNjaliH= with joined palms; abhigamya= approached; aashramam= the hermitage; abhivaadayan= and offered salutation; vaalmiikim= to the sage Valmiki.

After deciding thus Seetha, Rama and Lakshmana all with joined palms approached the hermitage and offered salutation to the sage Valmiki.

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taanmaharSiH pramuditaH puujayaamaasa dharmavit |
aasyataamiti covaaca svaagatam tu nivedya ca || 2-56-17

17. maharshhiH= the great sage Valmiki; dharmavit= who knew what is right; pramuditaH= full of delight; puujayaamaasa= honoured; taan= them; nivedya= offered; svaagatam= cordial welcome; uvaacha= and requested (them); aasyataam iti= to sit.

The great sage Valmiki, who knew what is right, full of delight, treated them with honour, offered cordial welcome and requested them to sit.

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tato.abraviinmahaabaahurlakamaNam lakshmaNaagrajaH |
samnivedya yathaanyaaya maatmaanamR^iSye prabhuH || 2-56-18

18. tataH= then; lakshmaNaagrajaH= Rama; prabhuH= the lord; mahaabaahuH= with mighty arms; yathaanyaayam= in accord with tradition; samnivedya= report; R^ishhaye= to the ascetic; aatmaanaam= all that concerned them; abraviit= spoke; lakshmaNam= to Lakshmana (as follows)

Then Rama, the lord with mighty arms, in accord with tradition, reported to the ascetic all that concerned them and spoke to Lakshmana as follows:

@ Rimi: Sitaji is introduced as "Sita'" only in Uttarkand by Valmiki to his wife and other women no mention of Sita as Vandevi