Jan 7 Refreshing episode Ramayan@no16 - Page 3

Originally posted by: desichica

i agree with you purvi...i said the same in sita's update....i was waiting for the longest to see urmila the most!!!!

Originally posted by: aditi1234

true purvi di...yesterday's episode was the best.. 👏

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

I never mind waht u said. I love debates n discussions n esp with understanting people like u. ur observation was nice. I was giving my POV on the issue. sorry if i hurted u. My POV was that if addtion adds beauty n is logical n doesnt harms the soul of the epic it ok. Its happening since long. After the original versions of Ramayan n MB numerous version of them were written. TV serials n movies r nothing but electronic versions of the epic. If me or u start writing our own version who knows we too may add few beautiful n logical things in the epic. will that amount to harming the religion or religious sentiments?

Originally posted by: Mandodari

I have seen other mythos on TV (Draupadi, Om Namo Narayana) and they are awful. I did not want the same thing to happen to Ramayan, that is all. That was my point. Other directors and writers may start to think "Oh, Sagar people changed the story, why can't I?" If that happens then Ramayan becomes a soap opera and not a serious religious work with a message. I am not sure if I am making myself clear. Anyway, got to go because I have tons of work to finish.

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

I think TV sreil Darupadi on sahara one is based on Pratibha Rai Novel "yagyaseni". Its hindi verdion is called "Draupadi". i like both. U shud read it . it so well written. u'll surely enjoy reading it.

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Again, this is strictly my opinion and my opinion only. No one has to agree with it. I have seen the video twice and I am not sure if I like what I am seeing. Does anyone on this list know if these events happened in any Ramayan? If you do, please let me know. At the beginning I was impressed because Sagar Arts had an expert Ramayan panel advising them. Now, they seem to be cooking up their own Ramayan with Kaikeyee asking Sumantra to get the army and invade Lanka. In which version of Ramayan does this happen?

I am having a problem with this. An epic like Ramayan should not become a free for all with any director or writer writing in stories that do not exist. This is not a Bollywood movie. The actors did a great job though.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Mandodari

Don't intend to start a fight, but I fully know where you are coming from and agree with you. Problem is that when one condones somebody re-writing the Ramayan from the standpoint of a bhakt, then on authenticity grounds, one loses the right to condemn anybody who twists the Ramayan for nefarious purposes. A lot of people condemn the HKMK version of the Mahabharat, but condone the changes Sagar makes because they are so devout. But if it's okay for Sagar to make changes to the Ramayan script, then can't one logically ask - what's wrong with, say, the ZeeTV serial Ravan, for instance? I couldn't stand some of the licenses they took, such as claiming that Angad was brought up in Ravan's palace, or claiming that Ravan offered to return Sita if Lakshman was turned over for killing Surpanakha's (name changed to Chandranakha) son Sambri.

I had a real problem with depicting Urmila as someone who would lock Sumitra out of her room because she was upset - that's just not how people in that yuga behaved, from everything I've read (even more unbelievable was Sumitra having to ask Kaushalya to intervene - Urmila was her own bahu, not Kaushalya's). Does this appear in any of the versions listed in the opening credits? I also had a problem with that violent Mandodari-Vajramala exchange that culminated in Mandodari slapping Vajramala: while it's good of production houses to use the latest technology in enhancing the visual effects of the story, I find it unbecoming of them to show treta yuga people behaving like modern soap opera characters. And Kaikeyi? While there is no doubt that she was selfish, has she ever been depicted in any translation as shameless as well? Bharat could just as easily have reminded her that she was the reason that Lakshman was in exile in the first place, leaving Sita vulnerable to be abducted by Ravan and Lakshman being downed by Indrajit, and therefore, she had no right to exhibit any moral outrage.

And today's episode - Kubera appearing before Ravan, giving him words of wisdom and making his sword disappear? Where did that come from? Kubera was comprehensively trounced by Ravan, and Ravan hated him and would never respect him, as is depicted here: after all, Ravan molested Rambha, the fiancee of Nalkhoober, Kubera's son. He never did that to the wives of any of his sons or nephews. And if Kubera could have made his sword disappear, he could have defeated him in battle. Reason that Rama was born was that devas like Kubera and Indra were no match for Ravan.

I like the way the Sagar's inserted the past history, including portions that appeared in Uttarkand (where the story of Ravan was narrated to Rama and others by several rishis visiting Ayodhya) - such as Vali defeating Ravan, Ravan's war with Kubera, Kumbhakarna's brief scheduled awakening and meeting with Ravan - all that is consistent with the story line. But some of the other changes - including Bharat getting wounded in battle with Sita's other suitors - that just left me disappointed.

Again, no offense to anyone, like you, just my opinions.

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Again this is strictly my opinion. No one need agree to it and I do not intend to hurt anyone's feelings.

Yes, this is what I was trying to say. Chandra. you said it so much better than I did. My question was "where does the poetic license stop?" In some serials like Ravan they are taking poetic license to the extreme and making interpretations that Valmiki and other writers probably never intended. The various versions of the Ramayan, written after Valmiki, were written by great scholars, sants, and great sages. There is a huge difference between a great Sanskrit/Indian language scholar or a Mahaan Sant/Sage making intrepretations and ordinary people like Sagars making intrepretations and introducing things that don't exist.