Valmiki's 'Agnipariksha' or RCM's 'Agnipariksha'

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Which Agnipariksha do you want Zee Ramayan to show?

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sherlock

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: Krishni51
@Sherlock I'm unaware of other verses from Vedas but this one says Sita along with AgniDev came infront of Rama after Ravan was killed!😊

Yes right, that's precisely what that verse says. But that's not what I asked in my previous post!

I asked that since this Rig Vedic, Valmiki Ramayan, Ram Charit Manas & Adhyatma Ramayan descriptions are similar, how come you saw "another version"?

As for you being unaware of other verses from Veds, no need to remain unaware. Here are some other Ramayan related Rig Vedic verses.

By His brilliance and prowess, Rama, with His Vanara sena, withstanding the prolonged onslaught of Ravan's illusions in battle, destroyed the same Ravan along with all his Maya. Ravana, the asura, had earlier stolen the daughter of the Earth, Sita, the wife of Rama, who hates none. -- RigVeda 10.99.2

Shri Ram's walk is as swift and smooth as the movement of a boat on water, although His followers the Vanaras appeared as if they were not walking. Shri Ram built the great bridge across the ocean with their help and made the ocean as suitable to traverse as the earth. -- RigVed 10.99.4

Valmiki (cursing the hunter) uttered with grief the shloka in the Anushtubh meter of 32 syllables. These Anushtubh verses of the Ramayan, with the fire of grief (the shoka-agni of Valmiki), burn up the body full of tamas as well as the Mula-Avidya, and liberate the Atma which has become sorrowful due to repeated births in various wombs. --- RigVed 9.73.5

Valmiki, having understood the Veda and with supernatural vision, wrote the Ramayan with the device of shlokas based on what he had heard from Narad. The origin of shloka is described. Having seen the evil deed (of the hunter), Valmiki uttered a curse " Those who are under the control of the currents of the mind, ie. desire, anger, etc., who are devoid of the discrimination between good and evil deeds, who have not heard the scriptures and are thus deaf, and who have gone astray from the path of truth, will not cross over misery because of the results of their sins." -- Rig Ved 9.73.6

Valmiki, who has his senses under control, who has infinite wisdom and is skilled in writing poetry, with his verses of the Ramayan purifies speech itself in that infinitely purifying stream, the all-pervading Bhagwan, whom he extols. Among poets like Valmiki is the revered Hanuman who is Rudra Himself, who moves very swiftly, who bears malice towards none, whose is excellent in judgement, and who is in search of Sita and sees Her. Hanuman's poetic skills are no less than Valmiki's because He narrated the story of Rama to Sita in the Ashok-vana. --Rig Veda 9.73.7

When the Supreme Being, known through the Vedas, is born as the son of Dasharatha (Rama), the Veda manifested itself through sage Prachetasa directly as Ramayana. Therefore, O Devi, the Ramayan is the Veda itself, without a doubt. -- Aagastya Samhita.

I had posted some other mentions of Lord Ram in Vedas & Upnishads etc. in another thread. I'll search for that post & post it here for you.

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sherlock

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

Here's that old post with more references.

Instruction to chant Shri Ram's name . (Rig Veda, mandal 10)

Shri Ram declared as the Supreme Personality (Taittriya Upnishad)

Divine Supreme Abode Ayodhya described in detail (Atarva Ved 10.?.?)

Ayodhya the Supreme Abode of Infinite Bliss (Taittriya Aaranyak)

Shri Ram's charit is Ved, for nothing exists beyond it (Agastya Samhita)

Maa Sita (RigVed 10.3.?)

Declaration that the mantra "Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare, Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare" destroys all evil, & nothing better than this is to be seen in all the Vedas. (Kali Sanstaran Upnishad)

By the way, all this is off-topic. So in all this Vedic reading, don't forget my topic-related question again, which is, "I asked that since this Rig Vedic, Valmiki Ramayan, Ram Charit Manas & Adhyatma Ramayan descriptions are similar, how come you saw "another version"?"😊

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Stalwart.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: sherlock

By the way, all this is off-topic. So in all this Vedic reading, don't forget my topic-related question again, which is, "I asked that since this Rig Vedic, Valmiki Ramayan, Ram Charit Manas & Adhyatma Ramayan descriptions are similar, how come you saw "another version"?"😊

Tfs😊

I answered according to the poll question.

Edited by Krishni51 - 12 years ago

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EXOL

@EXOL

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+ 7

Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: Krishni51

@ Neilu interesting article , 'The Reality' is good!😊

@Sherlock I'm unaware of other verses from Vedas but this one says Sita along with AgniDev came infront of Rama after Ravan was killed!😊

yea remember u once had posted something similar and that kind of pushed me to read abt it more..😳

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Stalwart.

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Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: nneeiill

yea remember u once had posted something similar and that kind of pushed me to read abt it more..😳

Yes such research is good but we have to consider what Janaki said "but some of the lines that destroy the flow of the story may have been interpolations."Yes true may be its coz of these lines we are unable to get the exact !

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Intrepida

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+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#16

if we had a time travel machine, then it would solve the problem lol!

or we could find a chiranjeev (immortals)- Vibhishan, who would have seen or heard of the event

😃

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Incense

@Incense

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: ratilal22192
if we had a time travel machine, then it would solve the problem lol!

or we could find a chiranjeev (immortals)- Vibhishan, who would have seen or heard of the event

😃

@ red vibhishan is immortal??? 😲 i didnt know tht ? can u plz explain us 😊

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Stalwart.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: ratilal22192
if we had a time travel machine, then it would solve the problem lol!

or we could find a chiranjeev (immortals)- Vibhishan, who would have seen or heard of the event

😃

Yes you're right I read somewhere...Hanuman , Vibhshan and Ashwathama of MahaBharat are immortals!