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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Bold- Drau AT so not a relevant discussion here.😊

But when did i say i excuse Yudi or Karna for Dyut Sabha? I am saying the opposite that even though i like them in some aspects of the epic what they did in Dyut Sabha is not justifiable nor will i justify that. They were completely wrong and no justification there.

I didn't say justify, I said excuse

I meant if despite that event you could like them why don't you like Dury or Shakuni.

But ok maybe it's irrelevant in Draupadi's AT

Since we were discussing about krishna karna conversation. One thing i would like to say that the only people who actually cared about drapaudi were krishna and drishtdyum. Nobody else. Krishna twice promises panchali of punishing the chandal chaukdi. He even indirectly blackmails dritrashtra and rest through Sanjaya because of his actions inactions in dice hall. He literally confesses that he carries the pain of not being there for panchali when she needed him the most. Nobody brings up panchali the number of times he does in the battlefield. In comparison to this his words to karna was nothing but manipulation. Krishna was playing him. And i think he played well because karna ends up giving away promise to kunti. Kunti played well too.

And drishtdyum was a great brother to panchali. His entire life revolved around panchali and her children. This is one bond i would like someday somebody to explore Brother sister bond.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Coming to Karna Krishna convo, it does seem like a set of sarcastic remark to each other(Krishna even asked Karna to switch sides on the day before the war started stating that he is as it is not fighting under Bheeshm, so he should join them and fight from Pandavas side till Bheeshm is the CIC, he would be free to return to Kauravas side post this. Tell me do you really think he could be serious about it) but even if not, Krishna was just lying to lure him.

Krishn wasn't Draupadi's Husband/father/brother/son to have any rights on her. He couldn't have offered her anyway. Same with the state. He wasn't the custodian of state to offer it to Karna

He was just their messenger/friend Pandavas were not obliged to accept any offer he made without their knowledge

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I didn't say justify, I said excuse

I meant if despite that event you could like them why don't you like Dury or Shakuni.

But ok maybe it's irrelevant in Draupadi's AT

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Well this is your interpretation and i wont discuss it further. Because then this discussion is endless. Whether he was lying or trying to lure him or he meant it no matter how one sees it he had no right to say things that he was saying. I find it quiet insufferable and difficult to read what he said.

Obviously he had no right to say that, this is what I said, and that's exactly what makes it nothing more than a random statement

If I say that if you support me I would ensure you get the ownership of Tom Cruise and Qutub Minar would that be considered an insufferable comment or a comic irrelevant word?

People do give such random statements often

Originally posted by: Krishnapanchali

Since we were discussing about krishna karna conversation. One thing i would like to say that the only people who actually cared about drapaudi were krishna and drishtdyum. Nobody else. Krishna twice promises panchali of punishing the chandal chaukdi. He even indirectly blackmails dritrashtra and rest through Sanjaya because of his actions inactions in dice hall. He literally confesses that he carries the pain of not being there for panchali when she needed him the most. Nobody brings up panchali the number of times he does in the battlefield. In comparison to this his words to karna was nothing but manipulation. Krishna was playing him. And i think he played well because karna ends up giving away promise to kunti. Kunti played well too.

And drishtdyum was a great brother to panchali. His entire life revolved around panchali and her children. This is one bond i would like someday somebody to explore Brother sister bond.

Even though he slayed hundred's of demons to just get some flowers that Drau wanted, cried with Drau during Kichaka incident, slayed 100's of Upakichaka's who were trying to burn her alive. These are only few not well known incidents. There are many well known ones as well.

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

I don't excuse it either. It's just how i look at the epic. Every one may be except Drau said or did horrible things. That is how i look at it many flawed characters. Who are highly unlikeable in some parts and likeable in some others.

That's exactly what I wanted to know what exactly was the thing likeable in Karna which Duryodhan or Shakuni lacked

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Obviously he had no right to say that, this is what I said, and that's exactly what makes it nothing more than a random statement

If I say that if you support me I would ensure you get the ownership of Tom Cruise and Qutub Minar would that be considered an insufferable comment or a comic irrelevant word?

People do give such random statements often

You may look at this as a random statement and overlook it and be ok that Krishna said it . Its fine. That is your POV.

I don't . Whether it was random statement or not. For me i can neither overlook it or be ok with it. I will leave it at that.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

That's exactly what I wanted to know what exactly was the thing likeable in Karna which Duryodhan or Shakuni lacked

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Why not Bhima?😭. Poor guy gets no credit whatsoever.

Even though he slayed hundred's of demons to just get some flowers that Drau wanted, cried with Drau during Kichaka incident, slayed 100's of Upakichaka's who were trying to burn her alive. These are only few not well known incidents. There are many well known ones as well.

I like bhim more than any other pandava no doubt about that. He and panchali made a great team But for all his promises he does end up accepting that his brother dearest had right over them to bet. Could have kept quite. He didn't. Arjuna actually looks better there because he question yudhishtra s right over them. Though over all all the pandavas were someway guilty of whatever happened in dice hall.

The point is Pandavas had other priorities. But krishna and drishtdyum actually does love panchali a lot. These two were most affected by the fact of failing panchali someway. And over everything panchali always had their immense support no matter what. They actually understood the kind if human being that she was Unlike her husband dearest.

I firmly believe none of the pandavas deserved her.